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jonzcustomshop 07-30-2013 08:56 PM

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picked up this beaut today....
turned out to be a factory air/auto/pb truck
no engine/trans when I got it, but all the trans linkage is still there.
the window clips are missing, the front seat(s) are there, but it only came with a lower cushion for the back.
the special ashtray for the a/c is still there.
first time I have seen one with the black knobs for the radio, (usually a black knob truck will still have the chrome radio knobs)
the braces are all solid, but the floor might be a little thin under the mat. It is not through anywhere yet.
fenders are junk (as usual), but for the second time in a month I scored a perfect hood!
vin tag had a "Z" in it , so I am thinking that it is a fremont built truck.
beautiful uncut rear bumper, and good taillights.
luckily I was paying attention, on the ground about 10 feet in front of it was the original fan shroud.
here are the CL photos:

DouglasRaymond 07-30-2013 10:51 PM

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Cool find.

Captainfab 07-31-2013 12:39 AM

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Nice find Jon :thumbs:

Is this one a fixer or for parts?

jonzcustomshop 07-31-2013 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Captainfab (Post 6197738)
Nice find Jon :thumbs:

Is this one a fixer or for parts?

I hope both... currently some parts for my 64 sub... then I put those slightly more abused parts on this... thinking that I don't need the a/c at all, so I might try to sell that once I am a premium member again....

This came with a title, and is pretty decent, so it could be a future project...
It would be cool to have a lowered 2wd to match my 4wd!

... spent a few hours opening the driver door!!!!
the latch spinner was completely frozen (rust) so I unbolted the door from the front , and then wiggled it out far enough that I could get a wrench on the 4 bolts on the latch on the cab.
2 of the 3 screws that hold the latch to the door were stress cracked all the way around , so the latch was not tight in the door , which is probably why I could not break the spinner free....

jonzcustomshop 07-31-2013 11:47 PM

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I wish they reproed these power brake pedal pads....

...also the special sub grille support brace, and vulcanized rubber rad. mount

jonzcustomshop 07-31-2013 11:50 PM

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the rf fender has an ugly bend above the tire... I hope that the frame hasn't been compromised....

jonzcustomshop 07-31-2013 11:51 PM

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last set of shots...

Subdude59 12-28-2014 03:03 PM

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Hi Jon , PM me if you would. Thx

pimpston65 12-28-2014 04:15 PM

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i got back glass if u need it

Subdude59 12-28-2014 04:28 PM

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Looking for AC unit and stock in-dash vents....

jonzcustomshop 12-31-2014 07:33 PM

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i got back glass if u need it

thanks for the offer, captain fab hooked me up over the summer....

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Originally Posted by Subdude59 (Post 6974728)
Looking for AC unit and stock in-dash vents....

still not sure on the direction of the interior for this... for now I am keeping the air dash...

I did a tiny bit to this this summer, I found a passenger door off a 65 truck that was not dented, and is the same color.
I also found a decent fender (lh) on a 63 that is also the same color... both fenders still need rust repair, but if I want to do a patina build it is now all complete with (mostly!) straight panels.

jonzcustomshop 10-23-2015 11:14 PM

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I dug this out today. Since the crew cab and 64 sub are at my house now I needed something to work on at the yard....
loose outline for this is :
as little body work and rust repair as possible.-I hope to try to get away with a "patina" build, since I have found pretty much all straight panels in tan for this.
the grille support I don't have , and this one is crashed, so I will have to figure out how to make one of my good ones tan.

low- I will do another pancaked cross member, and I found a set of 3 inch drop springs that I forgot I had in the garage at home.

Pontiac power! I have a good 64 Pontiac 389 that needs a home, and one of the trans ams at the yard has a good automatic.

first order of business though is to get the frame sorted out: it went in a ditch at the right front, and the inner fender is definitely pushed up and bent, whether the frame is tweaked too is the question... the frame is also stress cracked on the drivers side behind the control arm.
if the frame is junk I have a line on another sub frame, and might have to replace that first.

this will go slow, because I need to concentrate on the other 2 first, but it is the next build in line.

a question on the transmission mount?
this is a 65, the column indicator shows PRNDL, so I am thinking power glide?
however there is no mid mount across the frame at the bell housing. was it removed? or were the P/G's mounted with a tail mount (that might also be missing). all I see down there is the E-brake mount.

padresag 10-23-2015 11:48 PM

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Jon this what the trans cross member looks like . this one is from a 66. the bell housing x member is not used with an a/trans
nice score
ron

65chevysub 10-24-2015 11:01 AM

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I noticed yours is missing one of the rear windows? I just picked up a set of those doors yesterday and I am missing the left one. Anyone know who sells these or should I just go to a glass shop? CI only has them for 47-59 for $109.95.
Thanks

jonzcustomshop 10-24-2015 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by padresag (Post 7351694)
Jon this what the trans cross member looks like . this one is from a 66. the bell housing x member is not used with an a/trans
nice score
ron

thanks for the info! btw the pic didn't make it.

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Originally Posted by 65chevysub (Post 7351936)
I noticed yours is missing one of the rear windows? I just picked up a set of those doors yesterday and I am missing the left one. Anyone know who sells these or should I just go to a glass shop? CI only has them for 47-59 for $109.95.
Thanks


I got a used one from captain fab, I think he had more.

padresag 10-24-2015 06:57 PM

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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/160...1206250744.jpg
i think my mind is slipping sometimes. i get the link and then forget to insert it
ron
i would send it to you but it would more than likely cost 50.00 for shipping

jonzcustomshop 10-24-2015 08:51 PM

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haha thanks, I will have to crawl under there, I wonder if the cross member that I think is the E-brake cross member is actually this?

padresag 10-24-2015 09:03 PM

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66 are different than the 65 for the emerg brake as the Capt. had pointed out
ron

65chevysub 10-25-2015 11:36 AM

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thanks for the info! btw the pic didn't make it.




I got a used one from captain fab, I think he had more.

Cool. Thanks. I'll contact him and see what he has.

jonzcustomshop 10-27-2015 06:02 PM

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I guess the a/t cross member is in there! this being my first a/t truck I didn't know what to look for. it has the provisions for the 65 E-brake setup as well.
I got a tan door off a truck that was straight, and a tan LH fender off a 63 that is ok.
also the frame crack, and the bent inner fenders from going into a ditch I assume.

jonzcustomshop 10-27-2015 11:59 PM

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do you guys know if a TH350 will mount right to that 65 powerglide cross member or is it in the wrong spot??
also the other fender well bend:

The_Hub 10-28-2015 05:29 AM

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Sweet find. I'm hoping to find another at some point just to have with my '60.

Captainfab 10-29-2015 12:52 AM

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If I remember correctly that trans crossmember should be in the correct location for a TH350 also.

jonzcustomshop 11-05-2015 11:26 PM

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If I remember correctly that trans crossmember should be in the correct location for a TH350 also.

good to hear!

got out there in the light snow today and disassembled the front clip , while the clip was off and still in one piece I was able to mostly straighten the passenger fender.

now I need to roll it in the garage and see about the frame, and see if it is bent in the front.

any suggestions on how to go about that?

The_Hub 11-06-2015 04:34 AM

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I can take a few measurements if I get out to mine tomorrow so you can kind of gauge how far of a gap should be between the front frame rails.

jonzcustomshop 11-06-2015 05:55 PM

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I can take a few measurements if I get out to mine tomorrow so you can kind of gauge how far of a gap should be between the front frame rails.

that might work, I am thinking that the right frame rail is bent up from going in a ditch.
the fender has a kink in it at the cowl panel, the fender well is bent at the hood hinge, and where it bolts to the fire wall is pushed in about 1/8 inch.
you can also see the bottom of the bumper is pushed up and the gap to the door gets bigger at the bottom. on the bolt at the bottom rear of the inner fenderwell you can see that the fender well pulled forward and up a little bit.

for now I don't know if all the frame flexed and all the parts stayed bent , or if the rail is bent too.

I am thinking maybe put it on jackstands at the front body mounts and right before the rear kick up, then level it at the cowl, or roof, then measuring down to a level from certain points on the frame rails and see what I get.

padresag 11-06-2015 06:02 PM

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it looks like the bumper is bent right at the side of that frame horn and it was possibly the bumper pushing back that caused trhat fender to buckle.
ron

MagicCity66 11-09-2015 12:04 PM

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Your vehicle is special as it has factory a/c. And those that did (Burb or truck)have the ash tray under the dash. Do not lose it as you will not find another !

The_Hub 11-13-2015 12:48 AM

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that might work, I am thinking that the right frame rail is bent up from going in a ditch.
the fender has a kink in it at the cowl panel, the fender well is bent at the hood hinge, and where it bolts to the fire wall is pushed in about 1/8 inch.
you can also see the bottom of the bumper is pushed up and the gap to the door gets bigger at the bottom. on the bolt at the bottom rear of the inner fenderwell you can see that the fender well pulled forward and up a little bit.

for now I don't know if all the frame flexed and all the parts stayed bent , or if the rail is bent too.

I am thinking maybe put it on jackstands at the front body mounts and right before the rear kick up, then level it at the cowl, or roof, then measuring down to a level from certain points on the frame rails and see what I get.

I see what you're saying now. Hopefully its nothing too severe. Just let me know if you need anything measured out. Mine is all together so it may be harder to get certain numbers.

jonzcustomshop 03-09-2016 01:32 AM

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well, how about a complete 180?
disregard everything from post#12!:lol:
the frame was bent. I read chief rokas burbmaster thread. I noticed that I had an 87 buick wagon that we bought for the good 403 olds to put in one of the trans ams. I decided that I am probably not ever going to do anything with any of the trans ams.
the buick measures out with a 115.9 inch wheelbase.
I also used one of these frames in my radical 60 build.-worked pretty good.

so here we go: in December I took the buick apart. then it snowed.
I decided against the stock funky exhaust manifolds, and ordered some headers.
the headers are a tight fit, and will live up to their nickname (headaches) when I go to change the oil!-they lived up to that name during the install as well.
I notched the transmission X-member for the dual exhaust.
then I scabbed together a dual exhaust system out of couple of these wagon systems.

jonzcustomshop 03-09-2016 01:40 AM

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today I got started on mating the two together.
I had to cut off about 5 inches of the rear of the frame, I used a piece of a driveshaft as the new X-member.
as per chiefs thread: I notched the fender well, front and rear cab supports and over the rear wheels.

jonzcustomshop 03-09-2016 01:44 AM

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...and here we sit, I spent the rest of the afternoon cutting on the front (I am going to try to use the buick radiator). next time I get a full day I will weld in all the body supports.

pimpston65 03-09-2016 02:19 AM

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...and here we sit, I spent the rest of the afternoon cutting on the front (I am going to try to use the buick radiator). next time I get a full day I will weld in all the body supports.

looks like something out of the movie animal house "ramming speed". looks like you have a stock pile of parts there as well!!!

pimpston65 03-09-2016 02:22 AM

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I would put a chair right next to the burb and look at those mountains for days on end, man I miss being out west...

65sub 03-09-2016 08:53 PM

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Cool idea Jon

jonzcustomshop 03-09-2016 11:29 PM

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I would put a chair right next to the burb and look at those mountains for days on end, man I miss being out west...

my wife took this the same day, she was on a road trip to Kalispell, this is near st.ignatius, about 40 miles away....

jonzcustomshop 03-09-2016 11:33 PM

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looks like something out of the movie animal house "ramming speed". looks like you have a stock pile of parts there as well!!!

:lol: just a few parts trucks!

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Cool idea Jon

thanks, chiefrocka gets points for doing most of the homework:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...533641&page=15

pimpston65 03-10-2016 05:23 AM

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my wife took this the same day, she was on a road trip to Kalispell, this is near st.ignatius, about 40 miles away....

looks like crosscut saw teeth

gostranger 03-10-2016 06:58 AM

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awesome nice work!!

jonzcustomshop 04-08-2016 12:34 AM

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I got a couple free days, and got some progress on this.
working on the body mounts:

first I had to wrestle the body around on the frame, and had to trim the body supports back a little bit to get the body square on the frame..
once it was where I wanted it I went out into the yard and scavenged some parts to make the mounts.
in the first pic, you can see the 3rd mount ends up being way off the top of the frame, this is the mount that is under the rear floor section, the 2 pieces of frame rail off the back of my crew cab happened to fit in the hole... in the center I used the ends off a 60 Pontiac frame that I had , and then used some flat plate to box them in.

the next pic shows the front mounts: the best solution turned out to be the radiator core support mounts off a 73-87 2wd... the left one took some doing because the trans cross member ends right under the body mount.

next is onto the rear mounts, I used some more 60 Pontiac pieces for the 4th mount, and the 5th I was able to use the factory mount since I cut the rear frame rails off the suburban frame.- that worked out pretty nice I was able to bolt the frame rails to the bumper, and then to the suburban, get the bumper set just right, and then weld the ends to the new cross member.

4th picture: I will be able to use the buick wagon gas tank, I built a frame work to strap it up to, and then had to notch a piece of the LH frame rail for the filler to go through.

5th pic.
I was able to retain the stock floor over the rear axle, I just got some pieces of 2X2 angle iron and welded them together in a "Z" shape and bolted it in place!


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