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Well right now i have my truck tore down to nothing but the frame and the cab, motor has been pulled and the cab will go shortly. So i figured now is the time to start messing with suspension. Instead of bother porterbuilt with email, i figured id post here and let people get to me when they can.
I know for sure im going to go with bags and want to go with porterbuilt and accuair. I want it right the first time and dont want to mess with it again. I got the quote from porterbuilt for the front and rear with the mild dropmember along with the accuair kit. Price wasnt bad at all, but i think im going to order either the front or rear first and then order the bags, that way im not spending all my money at once. My question is should i just go with the extreme instead? How much of a difference in work is it? I know it lays frame and the mild stays about 3" off the ground? Also should i just go ahead and do all the possible upgrades for the front end (tubular a- arms etc.) Im wanting the best possible ride, but if i dont neccesarrily need something because it wont make a noticeable difference then saving money is good too. |
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From what I understand the mild version drops u 1' touring 2" and extreme 3". If your gonna do the PB drop member I would go ahead and upgrade the upper and lower control arms and do a Big brake kit too or go with later spindles for the disc brakes. I truely understand the wanting to save money. I'm all about it! Also I don't believe there is much difference in difficulty of installing the mild vs. the extreme if any. I'm doing the same as you in that I have my truck tore all the way to the frame, but I am building a new frame my self and will be adding the PB extreme DM as soon as I can save enough to get it ordered.
I hope this helps, and I'm sure others will chime in. Good luck with your build bud. :) |
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If you want it to lay out, go w/the extreme DM. That will require bed floor mods & inner wheel wells. If laying out is not a 'must do' & you just want it as low as possible w/more clearance & better geometry, go w/the touring set-up.
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I would also do the extreme Dropmember.
I recently saw a mild Dropmember installed and the steering linkage to the steering column is way more complex. The Extreme version is fairly simple and gets you the most bang for your buck$. |
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Thanks for the replies guys. Looks like I'm gonna go with the extreme, from what porterbuilt told me the touring version is more for a coil over setup, so if I'm wanting bags it's either the mildnor extreme.
Just don't want to go with the mild and then wish I would have went lower. As for the upgrades I'm guessing their all recommended? The tubular control arms are expensive but I'm guessing their definitely worth it? I'm new to the bagging side of things so I'm just reading and trying to understand things, so bare with me. Haha |
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Just take your time and do your research, and you will do fine. I'm actually looking at Michigan Metal works uppers and lowers. Not much dif in price but a little dif look. Lots of options out there, Not to put PB down in anyway. They are masters at what they do and make great products. All I'm saying is get what suits you the best and makes your truck you. :) I'm sure you will have a sweet ride when your done.
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Thanks for the replies, the more I think about it the more the extreme one catches my attention. Like I said if hate to do all the work and not be satisfied. I'm taking it porter built and accuser are pretty much the best in the business with regards to the c10? Not taking anything away from the other companies, but I haven't read anything bad about either one. If ordering from porterbuilt, the supply everything I'm going to need correct, as long as I order the accuser air management system from them. (mounts, bags, etc.)
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Just Call Nate, he can answer any question you have and he can get you anything and everything to complete your whole set up. And I believe you mean "Accuair"
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Yeah definitely mean accuair, on my phone and stupid autocorrect haha. But yeah I sent an email just don't want to bother them to much since I'm not sure how soon I'll be ordering, if I was ready to order if definitely be calling but I'm still saving funds so figured I would post here and have people answer when they get the time.
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I usually recommend the extreme as well, for the same reasons mentioned..... the simpler steering linkage and also that everyone always gets that itch to go lower. Another difference in the touring and the extreme, is the extreme will have a narrower track width of 1.5" per side vs. 0.25" per side on the touring.
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I went with the touring front and extreme rear and I am very happy with my decision. It still will lay frame front and rear depending on your front tire height and what drop spindle you use. I'm running a 28" front tire with 2.5" drop spindles. Right now the front of my frame by the transmission is sitting 1/2" off the ground due to my deep tranny pan laying on the ground. Going to have to change that back to a stock pan. The reason why I went with the touring front is because I'm running a big block/th400 drivetrain and didn't want any clearance issues. Nate told me the extreme would work but I would have more clearance with the touring. I haven't gotten to the steering shaft but I'm confident with the help of some pics and instruction that Nate sent me I can conquer it. A pic of how mine sits.
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I went with the mild. In front of rear tire is 5.5" off ground, and that's with a 32" tall rear tire. It's all about how low you want it.
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Mild front and rear. 30" tire on front. About 4.5" off ground aired out
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Damn that frame is sweet, so your using bags with the touring setup? For some reason I thought he said it was more for coil overs, ill have to get him to clarify that for me.
And man that truck looks sweet, that makes it a tough decision. Decisions, decisions. |
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Yes I'm using bags and Nate never told me it should only be used for coilovers. If he did I would have just went with the extreme. I felt the touring was just a better option for me personally. Just a note, I'm also running his 1" narrowed arms to narrow my front track width. So with my touring and the 1" narrowed arms my track width is narrowed 1.25" per side, the same as the extreme with regular arms.
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I had done a thread called "my 72 on 405/25/24" on the 67-72 message board a few months back. I'd be happy to answer any questions for anyone I can. Porterbuilt mild drop member and weld in mild rear drop member. Factory trailing arms were lengthen by 1" and boxed to center in the wheel opening.
Thanks, Wade |
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Here's a link to your thread,...
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=592681 |
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Thank you. I like a little rake myself. It's still a work in progress, but I'm sure I'm not the only one.
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To many choices! I still can't decide! I did decide on ordering in steps instead of dropping one lump sum. Would it be best to do the front or rear first? Or does it matter? And can I add the a-arms later on?
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http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...1&d=1382059774 I think I like this one (I believe its on your website?) and the one posted above the best... The biggest thing I want is the ability to still run a large tire in the rear. I see a lot of bagged trucks not having much tread, but I still want to have a larger tire in the rear for racing, etc. and I just like that stance. I believe somewhere you said, that where the red and white truck sits, would be the equivalent of the normal riding height for the extreme dropmember correct? |
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The size of the rear tire will not be limited by the airbag suspension. We have a bunch of guys running some pretty impressive tread width. The large the tire, the more clearance becomes limited... but you could run up to a 14" wide tire with the correct length rear diff. I don't want to let the cat out of the bag yet... but I am also working on an airbag variation that will set the frame just under 1" off the ground as well. For those guys that love the lowered ride height but don't want it to be able to lay the frame all the way on the ground as well. I know... I threw another option at you. Probably shouldn't have done that. ;) You can't go wrong with any of the versions... our most popular is the Extreme... second most popular is the Mild. Nate |
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Man I just need 3 trucks so I can do all 3, well really 4 now haha. How long until that new option is available?
And good to know about tire size, I wasn't sure if the air bag install limited that or not. And one more question, can the tubular a-arms be upgraded later? Thinking about going ahead and ordering my front dropmember with all upgrades besides the a-arms and then ordering the arms later on, if possible. |
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I need to clarify this a little... the Extreme version Dropmember will work with factory uppers from 63-87 and factory lowers from 73-87 C10 only. The Mild and Touring variations MUST be run with our tubular control arms. Nate |
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This is from a month or so ago. Again, that's a PB Touring front dropmember, 2.5" drop spindles, 1" narrowed tube upper and lower PB control arms, bags of course, and 20" wheels with 28" 255/40 20's. The pic speaks for itself hopefully, and that's just on jack stands with no weight on top (engine). All I can say is I LOVE my PB stuff!!! In fact, I'm already saving up for my C30 dually build where I'll be doing pretty much the same setup. My '68 C10 in the picture will be last. ;) She's gonna be something a little special.
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Nice setup CLTBurban, your frame looks sweet
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Back at ya my friend!!! Looks like we have the exact same taste!:metal:
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Ah, ok. Thanks. Good to know :)
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I don't want to let the cat out of the bag yet... but I am also working on an airbag variation that will set the frame just under 1" off the ground as well. For those guys that love the lowered ride height but don't want it to be able to lay the frame all the way on the ground as well.
I know... I threw another option at you. Probably shouldn't have done that. ;) You can't go wrong with any of the versions... our most popular is the Extreme... second most popular is the Mild. Nate[/QUOTE] Hello Nate, I wanted to know if you ever finished the new number 4 top secret drop member? I spoke with Dave a while back on a mild but started thinking about going with an extreme. You have me now thinking about this 4th drop member because I don't really care to lay frame but at ride height on 24's I would love to have the stance of rwade's red and white C10. |
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I am not able to dedicate the same amount of time on this forum as I used to. I have one of our team members that monitors private messages and forwards them to the appropriate PB team member. SO if at times I don't respond to posts in a timely manner.... or at all, it isn't intentional. The best and most efficient way to get a question answered is to use our direct email. Sales@pbfab.com or tech@pbfab.com. To answer the question, this new DM is close to being released. Feel free to email us for more details if necessary. Nate |
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I'm going to bring up this old thread. I've about decided to go ahead and pull the trigger on the mild DM. With a complicated steering linkage am I going to fun into any issues? Has this been changed since the thread started? Any issues with the steering linkage and headers?
Also I'm now curious as to what this new DM entails? Like I need another thing to look into but I don't want to order the mild and regret not waiting for the new DM. |
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I just recently installed the Extreme Dropmember. I too started out higher but got the itch and had to go lower.
I haven't driven my truck yet but so far I'm happy with the install. One thing that I will mention that if you do the extreme setup, you will probably have to do electric radiator fans. I'm not sure about the mild DM but the extreme DM raised my engine too high to line the stock fan up with my stock radiator sthroud. I don't know if this applies to a mild DM or not. I also had to get new headers. My Hedman headers no longer worked because they hit the bottom front of the cab. |
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