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bonnieclyde100 10-20-2013 07:59 PM

power window regulators on the cheap
 
i have made factory style power window regulators at 1/3 of the price of aftermarket ones. they are over 300 dollars i made mine for less than 100 dollars. here is the link to video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=hG23ms_x74M

mgkgmc 10-20-2013 10:04 PM

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Great ingenuity there!

mmiddle 10-20-2013 10:13 PM

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I watched the vid. and am impressed. What motors did you use?

Great job

bonnieclyde100 10-20-2013 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mmiddle (Post 6325186)
I watched the vid. and am impressed. What motors did you use?

Great job

i used some motors that are for a 1991 chevy truck and i got them at oriellys

DGulliver 10-21-2013 10:03 AM

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Brilliant!

bonnieclyde100 10-21-2013 08:17 PM

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here is the pattern of the motor holder plate maybe you can print it out and use it. when drilling mounting holes i would drill 1/4 hole and one 7/32 hole and tap it and use motor to mark where last hole will be to make sure they line up. the two screw threaded into the plate will need to be ground down on back so the regulator gear wont hit them when rotating.

bonnieclyde100 10-21-2013 09:07 PM

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someone on youtube asked for more of a write up so here it goes

step1 remove the spring carefully
step2 ground down crank rivets and remove it.
step3 ground down the two rivets thet hold the gear to the shaft and
drive them out.
step4 turn the gear down 90 degrees and weld it to the shaft.
step5 trace and cut out motor plate.
step6 cut 1 1/2 hole for motor gear to pass through and drill mounting holes (look at pattern) and test fit motor.
i would the 1/4 inch hole and one of the 7/32 to be tapped and mount
motor to mark the last hole to be drilled and tapped.

bonnieclyde100 10-21-2013 09:24 PM

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step7 time to weld motor plate to regulator mounting plate. look at piture to see how it needs to be placed and welded. put plate in between regulator mounting plate and regulator gear with shim to put a little clearance between gear and motor plate and clamp together to hold while welding. test fit motor to make sure it engauges the gear correctly make adjustments if needed and weld.
step8 ground down welds and paint
step9 assemble and test

this was the driverside passenger side is opposite of driver

mmiddle 10-21-2013 09:31 PM

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Wow, You Da Man.

hugger6933 10-21-2013 10:13 PM

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I think I got some leftover door parts from that body style truck[88-98] from when I used to build them. If I haven't thrown them all away I will look for some motors tomorrow. I have three trucks to build, it should suit some of them. Are you gonna put the switch in the old crank arm hole? Do you plan on using the old GM style two flat button on the drivers side then the single flat on the pass like would have been there, Or is your int. customized? That is some real good thinking on this how long have you used it? Keep up the good work and the good ideas, that is what this country was founded on and also this hobby that we so dearly love. Jim

jorgensensc 10-21-2013 10:26 PM

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Excellent!!! Thank you!! I have been needing to it owner windows in my suburban but they don't make rear kits. This will work perfectly!!!
Shawn.

'68 Short Step 10-21-2013 10:30 PM

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What an awesome project! This is definitely going on my to do list.

bonnieclyde100 10-22-2013 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by hugger6933 (Post 6326766)
I think I got some leftover door parts from that body style truck[88-98] from when I used to build them. If I haven't thrown them all away I will look for some motors tomorrow. I have three trucks to build, it should suit some of them. Are you gonna put the switch in the old crank arm hole? Do you plan on using the old GM style two flat button on the drivers side then the single flat on the pass like would have been there, Or is your int. customized? That is some real good thinking on this how long have you used it? Keep up the good work and the good ideas, that is what this country was founded on and also this hobby that we so dearly love. Jim

i have custom door panels and i plan on using the switches that came with the aftermarket power window kit that didnt have enough power to lift the windows with all the new weatherstripping.

hugger6933 10-22-2013 08:54 PM

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How thick is the plate that you bolted the motor to? Does the motor plate just weld to the regulator in that one spot that is pictured? I was just wondering about those two thing as there would be a bit of wobble on the end of the plate if it isn't supported some kind of way, but I didn't build it , It looks great. Thanks for the tips and the help. Jim

bonnieclyde100 10-22-2013 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by hugger6933 (Post 6328311)
How thick is the plate that you bolted the motor to? Does the motor plate just weld to the regulator in that one spot that is pictured? I was just wondering about those two thing as there would be a bit of wobble on the end of the plate if it isn't supported some kind of way, but I didn't build it , It looks great. Thanks for the tips and the help. Jim

the plate is 1/8 inch thick . it is welded in two about 3/4 inch apart one on each side.

jorgensensc 10-22-2013 11:32 PM

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I really like this idea! Thank you for taking the time to write it up. Just curious, had you considered or tried using the regulators off the 90's trucks? I know they won't mount in the same holes, but could they work with spacers maybe in a different spot?

sambudo 10-23-2013 02:09 AM

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Great video something to add to my to do list. Thanks

hugger6933 10-23-2013 06:12 AM

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The 90's truck regulators are like twice the size of the ones that go in the 67-72 trucks. I would doubt that they would even fit inside the doors. Jim

bobs409 10-23-2013 06:23 AM

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Great work! I often wondered if another GM power window motor couldn't be "retro-fitted" into our trucks for alot less money. :chevy:

Custom 68 10-23-2013 10:07 AM

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great, subscribed

AirSpeed 10-23-2013 11:42 AM

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Do you have a model number for those motors?

bonnieclyde100 10-23-2013 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AirSpeed (Post 6329179)
Do you have a model number for those motors?

oriellys part numbers

Part # : 42-131
Part # : 42-130
and alot of time other auto parts stores use same numbers

colgad 10-23-2013 11:14 PM

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Amazon sells the motors for a total of 68.91 for both
Dorman 742-142 Window Lift Motor Dorman 742-142 Window Lift Motor
Sold by Amazon.com LLC
Dorman 742-143 Window Lift Motor Dorman 742-143 Window Lift Motor
Sold by Amazon.com LLC

bonnieclyde100 10-31-2013 10:59 PM

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i drove mine out with a hammer and a nail net. mine came out pretty easy but how ever you have to do it is fine. take some pics when there done

Bigdav160 10-31-2013 11:05 PM

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I bought those PW motors from Rockauto for $15 a piece recently.

I was going to duplicate the drawing in Sketchup but it appears a couple crucial measurements are missing.

I think I have an extra regulator. I'll try to come up with something a little more precise.

colgad 11-01-2013 10:37 PM

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I got my first one built and here are a few pics. I added to the gear the guide due to the fact that without it the slop in the bearing is close to coming off the motor gear.

I used studs for the motor (welded in), I was afraid that I was wearing out the thread's in the 1/8 steel plate with as many times as I had it on and off. And my Harbor Freight tap was not the greatest.

Please no comments on my stellar welding.

The template was right on and only had to grind it once to made the gears fit together.

Now I have to do the other one!

Thanks for this great Idea

bonnieclyde100 11-01-2013 11:13 PM

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looking good . that was a great idea to add the guide on there wish i had done that but mine are more towards the middle of the gear so maybe i wont have any problems none so far

vannatta20 11-02-2013 10:16 AM

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Does anyone have info on what all is needed to wire this up?

bonnieclyde100 11-02-2013 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by vannatta20 (Post 6344144)
Does anyone have info on what all is needed to wire this up?

i wiured mine up with wiring and switches from an aftermarket power window kit i had but you could use any factory wiring and switches from a junk yard if you want most gm stuff is wired up the same

Bigdav160 11-02-2013 04:24 PM

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Has anyone installed their modified regulators yet? Does the window move through the whole range correctly?

I was worried, looking at the angles in the template and other picture, that the motor is not placed properly. Maybe it's an optical illusion.

Since the gear is repositioned 90º from the arm, it would make sense that the motor would need to be 90º to maintain the same relationship. It's hard to tell but Colgad's looks correct.

colgad 11-02-2013 09:14 PM

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You need a DC reversing switch, here is one from Northern Tool:
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...FSEV7AodmHYAQQ

Here is the wiring:

nitrosport_5 11-03-2013 12:11 AM

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Subscribed. I plan to try this out with my windows on my truck. Was goingto buy aftermarket but im all for the cheap way out!

bonnieclyde100 11-03-2013 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigdav160 (Post 6344532)
Has anyone installed their modified regulators yet? Does the window move through the whole range correctly?

I was worried, looking at the angles in the template and other picture, that the motor is not placed properly. Maybe it's an optical illusion.

Since the gear is repositioned 90º from the arm, it would make sense that the motor would need to be 90º to maintain the same relationship. It's hard to tell but Colgad's looks correct.

the motor bracket is mounted at an angle because when you mount the regulator in the door the regulator plate that bolts to the door is at a slite upward angle . if i would have made the motor bracket 90 degrees to the regulator bracket the regulator would have ran out of teeth before the glass got all the way to the top

First c10 11-03-2013 12:02 PM

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Subscribed

Bigdav160 11-03-2013 04:37 PM

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if i would have made the motor bracket 90 degrees to the regulator bracket the regulator would have ran out of teeth before the glass got all the way to the top
Too late. I couldn't wrap my head around the need to not be 90º. My Suburban is at the shop (work) and I have some metal and spare regulator at (home) shop so I built this. I guess I'll find out if it works soon enough.

jimcaf 11-13-2013 01:42 AM

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I did mine a few weeks ago right after I saw this post, Thanks for the great post bonnieclyde100,, they work amazing,lots of power they roll up fast enough where youll want to make sure your fingers are clear

:gi:

BlacklandCamper 11-13-2013 02:05 AM

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Sweet!!

Great idea.

bonnieclyde100 11-13-2013 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jimcaf (Post 6361408)
I did mine a few weeks ago right after I saw this post, Thanks for the great post bonnieclyde100,, they work amazing,lots of power they roll up fast enough where youll want to make sure your fingers are clear

:gi:

your welcome glad to see someone got some use out of it things are getting very exspensive and it nice to be able to save some money

snipescastle2 11-13-2013 09:27 AM

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So, has anyone adapted a factory power window harness for control of the passenger window as well as the driver side from the driver's door switch?
I know there are aftermarket kits for these, but trying to keep with the "On the Cheap" Theme here.....any ideas?
Thanks!
Ben:metal:

jimcaf 11-13-2013 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by snipescastle2 (Post 6361614)
So, has anyone adapted a factory power window harness for control of the passenger window as well as the driver side from the driver's door switch?
I know there are aftermarket kits for these, but trying to keep with the "On the Cheap" Theme here.....any ideas?
Thanks!
Ben:metal:

I havnt done my finish wiring but plan on getting switch's from ecology just putting a right and left switch and mounting them some how under the heater controls where a driver and pass can access them leaving the door panels smooth and clean


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