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64shortboxchevy 10-22-2013 03:10 PM

402 shortbox build!
 
I'm starting a build thread for my 64 fleetside shortbox. I acquired the truck and a well built 402 big block in a trade for a 68 charger that needed more work than I was interested in doing. My plans are to swap the manual 4 speed for a built 350 or 400 turbo automatic. The truck will be used for cruising and an occasional trip to the the strip or autocross etc. Plans are to paint it a bright maroon/red metallic with a light interior of nickel metallic and a sandstone color. Lots of pics to come. Here is how it sat when I bought it.[IMG]http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps57831da1.jpg[/IMG]

Ta2Don 10-22-2013 03:11 PM

Re: 402 shortbox build!
 
I'm in!!!:metal:

64shortboxchevy 10-22-2013 03:39 PM

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[IMG]http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps92c16e20.jpg[/IMG]

64shortboxchevy 10-22-2013 03:40 PM

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The power plant!

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64shortboxchevy 10-22-2013 03:44 PM

Re: 402 shortbox build!
 
My son blasting the engine bay to prepare for a quick coat of semi gloss black.


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64shortboxchevy 10-22-2013 03:48 PM

Re: 402 shortbox build!
 
All cleaned up.


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64shortboxchevy 10-22-2013 04:06 PM

Re: 402 shortbox build!
 
Big Block getting dropped in the freshly painted engine bay.

http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps6c4d285b.jpg


http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/z...psd301ebb9.jpg

64shortboxchevy 10-22-2013 04:07 PM

Re: 402 shortbox build!
 
Found out the perches I'm currently using are for the 6 cylinder and wont allow clearance for the exhaust. I ordered the correct v8 tubular mounts yesterday. Will be swapping those out this weekend.

64shortboxchevy 10-22-2013 04:14 PM

Re: 402 shortbox build!
 
Holley 750 ultra installed to feed the beast.


[IMG]http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps9a82ebf8.jpg[/IMG]

64shortboxchevy 10-22-2013 04:27 PM

Re: 402 shortbox build!
 
"Rebuilt" the heater box... vacuumed out the mouse nests, leaves, dirt and rust. Put in a new blower motor, fan, fresh coat of paint and new cable.


http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps4434f9eb.jpg

64shortboxchevy 10-22-2013 04:30 PM

Re: 402 shortbox build!
 
Painted the dash nickel metallic, ash tray is a sand color. Looks better in person.

http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps80aca376.jpg


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64shortboxchevy 10-22-2013 04:35 PM

Re: 402 shortbox build!
 
Put the new heater controls and cables in last night. Took a bit of work to get the defroster flapper to break free and move freely but it works great now.

[IMG]http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/z...psa766d798.jpg[/IMG]


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64shortboxchevy 10-22-2013 04:43 PM

Re: 402 shortbox build!
 
Painted the glove box door the sandstone color and cleared it, got the new chrome trim from Brothers Truck as well as a new glovebox. I actually got it all put together and put in the dash last night but didn't have my phone along to take a pic. More pics tonight maybe.


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International Texan 10-23-2013 12:54 AM

Re: 402 shortbox build!
 
Very nice truck to start with. I'm excited to see this one come along.

bj383ss 10-23-2013 06:46 AM

Re: 402 shortbox build!
 
Looking good. Can't go wrong with a BBC.


Bret

aggie91 10-23-2013 10:41 AM

Re: 402 shortbox build!
 
Looks like a great start!

1963c-10 10-23-2013 11:03 AM

Re: 402 shortbox build!
 
Nice work so far

C@rnut001 10-23-2013 11:27 AM

Re: 402 shortbox build!
 
Your 402 big block looks like it belongs in there. I think you have an excellent start on your truck build. Keep us updated and thanks for bringing us along for the ride!

deestrong71 10-23-2013 11:58 AM

Re: 402 shortbox build!
 
Looking Good !

64shortboxchevy 10-23-2013 11:24 PM

Re: 402 shortbox build!
 
Thanks for the compliments guys. Got the glovebox cleared and installed last night. Pic to follow. This weekend I'll be bolting the front end back on and loading up all the new parts I've got to take to my brothers shop (with heat) swapping the manual for an auto 400 and getting it running. Then its body work time!

64shortboxchevy 10-23-2013 11:29 PM

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[IMG]http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/z...psdcd3bfa8.jpg[/IMG]

64shortboxchevy 10-23-2013 11:31 PM

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I'll be painting the heater vents and inside firewall black this weekend and installing the firewall mat also. Kick panel vents will be getting new gaskets etc. as well.

64shortboxchevy 10-23-2013 11:38 PM

Re: 402 shortbox build!
 
A few questions for ya... If I decide to keep the in cab fuel tank, is there a problem with fuel smell after filling? I kind of like where the fill cap is in its stock location rather than filling thru the bed floor if I did a rear mount tank. Also will a DIN mount radio fit where the old shaft style radio used to go? I like a good sounding stereo (I install car audio for a living) any suggestions on speaker placement, anybody have pics of where they put speakers in these trucks? I'm thinking maybe some small subs (6 1/2" or 8") behind the seat to left or right of gas tank if they fit.

1963c-10 10-24-2013 09:23 AM

Re: 402 shortbox build!
 
If you have a new filler neck hose and good clamps, you will not have any fuel smell in the cab.

McMurphy 10-24-2013 12:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 64shortboxchevy (Post 6330350)
A few questions for ya... If I decide to keep the in cab fuel tank, is there a problem with fuel smell after filling? I kind of like where the fill cap is in its stock location rather than filling thru the bed floor if I did a rear mount tank. Also will a DIN mount radio fit where the old shaft style radio used to go? I like a good sounding stereo (I install car audio for a living) any suggestions on speaker placement, anybody have pics of where they put speakers in these trucks? I'm thinking maybe some small subs (6 1/2" or 8") behind the seat to left or right of gas tank if they fit.

On speaker placement...
This is a common topic of discussion on this board, and it seems to vary from build to build.
In my 66 stepside, I did a total custom set up and am pushing 7 speakers in that cab.
In my 64 tow truck I am going to shoot for maintaining a period correct look, but still have premium sound so in that I am going to have to get creative. I have also started stock piling stuff for that.

So the point of what I am asking back to you is this:
How much modifiying do you want to do, or are willing to do?

64shortboxchevy 10-24-2013 03:41 PM

Re: 402 shortbox build!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1963c-10 (Post 6330706)
If you have a new filler neck hose and good clamps, you will not have any fuel smell in the cab.


Thanks for the tip. I checked the current filler neck...and wouldn't ya know it, it's cracked!

64shortboxchevy 10-24-2013 03:43 PM

Re: 402 shortbox build!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by McMurphy (Post 6330974)
On speaker placement...
This is a common topic of discussion on this board, and it seems to vary from build to build.
In my 66 stepside, I did a total custom set up and am pushing 7 speakers in that cab.
In my 64 tow truck I am going to shoot for maintaining a period correct look, but still have premium sound so in that I am going to have to get creative. I have also started stock piling stuff for that.

So the point of what I am asking back to you is this:
How much modifiying do you want to do, or are willing to do?

I'm ok with modifying. I am probably keeping the bench seat and maybe the interior gas tank...atleast for awhile. Any pics of what you or others have done in these trucks would be appreciated.

McMurphy 10-24-2013 08:41 PM

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5 Attachment(s)
This is the stereo system I installed, all Pioneer.
The only thing not in this photo is the 2" spot tweeters.
Attachment 1166668

Those are shown here in final install on a domelight pedestle I made.
Attachment 1166667

The 5.5" mids were mounted in these center console panels.
Attachment 1166670

There were previous holes for 5 or 6" speakers in the doors prior, but I decided the 6x9" would go good there, so I counter sunk the top edge of the speaker panel for a better angle for the soundwaves.
Attachment 1166671

Finally the Amp and Capacitor went behind the seat with the 12" sub.
Attachment 1166669


The music in this video is not dubbed in, it is playing on the stereo.

The spot tweeters came with small inclosures that you cannot see, but I left them incorporated in the pedestle mount. The 5.5 and the 6x9 speakers all got foam baffles, and the 12" sub was enclosed and packed with synthetic stuffed animal/pillow batting.

I hope this helps you some, I know other folk around here have inspired me immensly so it would be nice to pass some of that along....
All these photos and videos are hyper linked on Page 1 of my build in a Table of Contents, please feel free to take a look and steal or improve on any ideas you see there !!!


Good Luck :metal:

64shortboxchevy 10-24-2013 09:30 PM

Re: 402 shortbox build!
 
Great job! That definitely gives me some good ideas. I really like the door speakers and the tweeters!

McMurphy 10-25-2013 04:58 PM

Re: 402 shortbox build!
 
Those tweeters so close to your head (I am 6' tall) really bring the higher range instruments out, like highhats, cymballs, triangles, and any xylophones which makes it a real treat.

I was in the school band growing up and since I miss it, I like making my audio systems seem like I am back "in" the band.

Glad you liked it, hope to see what you come up with in the near future !! :metal:

62 Barnfind 10-26-2013 01:53 AM

Re: 402 shortbox build!
 
Nice setup! going to sound killer!

64shortboxchevy 11-06-2013 07:08 PM

Re: 402 shortbox build!
 
Progress Pics! Got the correct motor perches and mounts installed. Finally able to install the exhaust manifolds!

[IMG]http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/z...psb5b595e8.jpg[/IMG]

64shortboxchevy 11-06-2013 07:09 PM

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64shortboxchevy 11-06-2013 07:10 PM

Re: 402 shortbox build!
 
Plummed the heater core.

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64shortboxchevy 11-06-2013 07:13 PM

Re: 402 shortbox build!
 
Also got the new 3 core radiator in, new hoses as well as a new battery.

http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/z...pse023a725.jpg

64shortboxchevy 11-06-2013 07:13 PM

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1963c-10 11-06-2013 09:29 PM

Re: 402 shortbox build!
 
How long are your heater hoses? Im fabbing up some stainless AN hose from the waterpump/intake to the core. Its parts for my big block swap thats a few months off and some lengths would be great if you could help out.

And congrats on getting the engine dropped in. Ill be a few months behind you.

64shortboxchevy 11-07-2013 03:42 PM

Re: 402 shortbox build!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1963c-10 (Post 6351556)
How long are your heater hoses? Im fabbing up some stainless AN hose from the waterpump/intake to the core. Its parts for my big block swap thats a few months off and some lengths would be great if you could help out.

And congrats on getting the engine dropped in. Ill be a few months behind you.

I forgot already but will measure for you.

1963c-10 11-07-2013 03:50 PM

Re: 402 shortbox build!
 
Thanks, I really appreciate it. The AN hoses can get expensive when you start buying extra feet of it. Its around $4-8 a foot depending on size

Blue666 11-11-2013 08:29 PM

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Is that a F%$# interior Light?


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