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69-72 01-03-2015 05:28 PM

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So I am working on installing one of these and here are some tips on installation and some issues I have run into.

First thing I noticed taking it out of the box was a series of about 28 holes that need to welded up. They seemed kind of odd to me so I inquired with the producer of this piece and I was told they holes are there to assist in the forming. Seems odd that the holes aren't pictured in any of the product photos.

69-72 01-03-2015 05:32 PM

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Next issue I came upon was the tab for the weatherstripping to attach to. On the passenger side the tab looks good but the drivers side tab was signifanctly larger with the hole way off from where it needs to be. I didn't take a before picture but here is a shot of it welded up. The marker on it shows approximately how much needs to be trimmed off for it to fit

69-72 01-03-2015 05:45 PM

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Now this next problem is a big one and the one that prompted me to start this post. I was nearly ready to weld the whole header in before I caught this which is lucky. The lower holes and nuts for the sun visor brackets are in the wrong spot. You can attach the visor bracket using the holes in the spots they are in but the brackets don't sit the way they should and will cause the visors to point downwards

69-72 01-03-2015 05:48 PM

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The drivers side hole is off as well but the passenger side is the worst. The pen mark is where the hole needs to be.

69-72 01-03-2015 05:55 PM

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That is all I have encountered so far. There are some other inconsistencies when comparing it to an original but overall it is a fairly accurate reproduction otherwise. You definetly need to have your top in place to install this. Bolt it all up and make sure it fits. I have taken it on and off the truck a dozen times at least while fitting it. Glad I came across a spot welder a while back. This is my first time using it and it saves a ton of time

69-72 01-03-2015 07:15 PM

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Welded up the old holes and ground off the old nuts and got welded in new nuts in the right position

69-72 01-03-2015 07:16 PM

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How it is supposed to fit

69-72 01-04-2015 01:05 PM

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And of course the holes for the visor retainers are incorrect and need to be welded up and redrilled

rwolf9653 01-04-2015 09:31 PM

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Thanks for the help. I will be starting on mine this spring and this is one of the many items I have to replace.

raggedjim 01-08-2015 06:27 PM

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Nice work.

Thanks, Rg

69-72 01-25-2015 05:50 PM

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I came across another problem. I went to attach the weatherstripping and discovered the mounting holes on the drivers side positions the rubber way off from where it needs to be. The rubber should extend almost to the outer edge

69-72 01-25-2015 05:53 PM

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So I had to cutout one of the nuts

69-72 01-25-2015 05:55 PM

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Fab up a new piece and weld it in.

69-72 01-25-2015 06:04 PM

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And now the rubber fitment matches the passenger side

So I have finished up with installing this, haven't come across any other problems. It's nice that this piece was reproduced, I just wish it had been done better or knew ahead of time of the inconsistencies.

truckster 01-25-2015 06:38 PM

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It's nice that you have the skills to fix the problems. It looks like you're doing a very careful job with your build. Congratulations.

da-burb 01-25-2015 11:29 PM

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Thanks for the great pictures. I will show them to the company that makes these.
Your comment, "I just wish it had been done better or knew ahead of time of the inconsistencies." rings true with me. I feel the same way when I sell any parts. In this case it was just to new of a part to know it's shortfalls. Your trail-blazing is greatly appreciated.

69-72 01-25-2015 11:55 PM

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I don't mean to cause any harm or devalue the part in any way, I just feel it's important for the people that install these parts to know of the issues they might run into. I keep thinking it would really be a shame if someone had installed one of these sets and ran into the problems after the truck is all painted.

It's great that they made the pieces they did. Some people really need them,in some cases it could be the difference in saving a whole truck.


I thought my inner header was in pretty good shape, the truck was nearly painted without replacing it, but it had some rust pitting so I decided to give the repro a shot. I am glad I did in the end because despite my original looking to be decent after taking it off and comparing it to the repro the metal on my original was thinned over the years and was about half the weight.

da-burb 01-26-2015 01:18 AM

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I did not take anything you said as a negative. You have done a great job "adjusting" the part. You have provided a great service to anyone that comes across this post when looking for help restoring their Blazer or Jimmy windshield header. Thank YOU for doing this.

robs71k5 01-27-2015 01:18 AM

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Hey man had no idea these were available ! Where can one buy one of these ? How much ? Looks like you done a bang up job ! Is it done yet .would love to see more pics completed. Congrats

doo142 01-27-2015 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by da-burb (Post 7019643)
I did not take anything you said as a negative. You have done a great job "adjusting" the part. You have provided a great service to anyone that comes across this post when looking for help restoring their Blazer or Jimmy windshield header. Thank YOU for doing this.

Glad to see you guys are interested in the input to make these better! Thanks and keep up the good work !!

69-72 01-27-2015 09:47 AM

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Hey man had no idea these were available ! Where can one buy one of these ? How much ? Looks like you done a bang up job ! Is it done yet .would love to see more pics completed. Congrats

Best place I have found to buy them is from
https://www.facebook.com/BowtieTruck...type=3&theater

It's done, I will get some pictures, although there really isn't much to see, it just looks like the original pretty much.

dinki5081 07-17-2015 01:39 AM

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So I am working on installing one of these and here are some tips on installation and some issues I have run into.

First thing I noticed taking it out of the box was a series of about 28 holes that need to welded up. They seemed kind of odd to me so I inquired with the producer of this piece and I was told they holes are there to assist in the forming. Seems odd that the holes aren't pictured in any of the product photos.

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dinki5081 07-17-2015 01:41 AM

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Thanks for the info on this install! I just started mine. It has a total of five pieces, where do the two small pieces go? Thanks, Roy
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69-72 07-17-2015 09:53 AM

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The two little pieces are sandwiched in at either end. It will make sense once you rip everything apart. I didn't strip mine down far enough to use them. As with any panel replacement I would recommend keeping as much of the original metal intact as possible. Most of the time it's only the inner structure that is rusted out so if possible keep the outer frame piece there, it will help to keep everything in the right place.

Blazerowner 07-18-2015 04:00 PM

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I considered buying this to use the top header to make a bracket for installing a sof top with no holes. You think this is possible?

69-72 07-18-2015 05:08 PM

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I don't know if that would work. You would only be able to use the very top piece of the kit and I am not sure how you could fasten it.

Blazerowner 07-18-2015 08:36 PM

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That's what kept me from doing it because of the cost. I made a decent bracket but want something clean looking. Maybe I need a nice plasma cutter.

69-72 07-18-2015 08:39 PM

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I think this is gonna be the best option. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=526018

Blazerowner 07-20-2015 02:25 AM

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I've seen that it does look decent.

gringoloco 01-28-2018 11:53 PM

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Thanks for the info. Probably will be doing one of these soon. Anyone else with experience with this patch? Did the stamping get any better?

Heydanl 05-07-2019 12:40 AM

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Thanks for the info. Probably will be doing one of these soon. Anyone else with experience with this patch? Did the stamping get any better?

Unfortunately no. The only thing fixed was all the little holes 69-72 pointed out on the first post of this thread. I'm in the middle of installing one of these and thank you thank you thank you 69-72 for posting your experience. It's saved me a ton of time. On another note, it's been 4 years since the original post and almost nothing has changed? I suppose it's better to have this available than not, but you'd think they'd make some effort to improve the design. This thing ain't cheap.

69-72 05-08-2019 06:31 PM

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I wouldnt expect they would have fixed the problems. When they get them made they need to order a quantity of them. I have my doubts that enough will be sold to justify a second run yet if ever

Heydanl 05-08-2019 09:48 PM

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I wouldnt expect they would have fixed the problems. When they get them made they need to order a quantity of them. I have my doubts that enough will be sold to justify a second run yet if ever

Actually, when I ordered mine, I was told by my supplier that it wasn't immediately available because Woodall was in the process of doing another run and they wouldn't be delivered for a few weeks. The way he talked, it sounded like there had been numerous previous runs with the same delay in availability.

7D2N 05-09-2019 07:53 PM

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I used one of the kits and happy with how it worked. Some trimming and fitment are required but its no different with the floor and pillar parts I'm working with now. Tuff duty to find a donor piece in good shape.

Heydanl 05-09-2019 07:55 PM

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Tuff duty to find a donor piece in good shape.

Ain't that the truth

Thealien 02-09-2022 02:41 PM

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Posting to make it easier to find this thread later.


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