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I was listening to C10talk the other day. It was the episode with David Freiberger. During it, it was brought up that these converted short bed trucks are hot right now. (I totally agree) But what they said next blew me away. Everyone calls the finished metal lines scars and now this is the new thing? Really?

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I'll stick with my rusty old long bed.

Short beds are for girls... :lol:

Gary

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Ya da girls like mine !

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I'll stick with knowing with what "I" like and not being concerned with what people who need trends to follow do.

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:confused:

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Are we talking about the lines from cutting the bed, or from cutting the frame? or both?

I like closing the tailgate after loading 15 sheets of plywood and laughing at the guys trying to figure out how to fit a couple 2x4's in their truck with a 5' bed.

I love my longbed.

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Another “long bed vs short bed” thread...

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May be just me but that would not be "scars" to my way of thinking. Just an unfinished project mod that needs some more work to be presentable. Has the same look as a house being remodeled with OSB and Tyvek wrap showing. Needs siding and paint to be finished. To each his own I guess. :lol:

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That's it, I'm opening up a dog crap sandwich stand.. I going to make a fortune! :lol:

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That does it I'm going to grind some lines in my long bed and tell everyone it's a stretched shortbed.

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damn, it its not one thing about this subject its another.
I cut my frame and used a diamond phish plate that is welded to the outside of the frame, because i do not care what others say. Heck i am proud of what i did. so if that is a scar, then yes i have a frame with a scar and new bed.

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No, no, no. The "Scar" is not on the frame cut. People are referring to the cut/weld lines on the shortened long bed sides as these "Scars". It's not what I'd deem cool, but who am I? :lol:

I have no problem with a cut down long bed. I am actually trying to piece together a 2wd swb C20 and I plan to do this with a long bed too. Because new SWB bed sides are a grand. Haha

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I've called dents and scratches battle scars before but never homemade (professional) mods! That's like comparing a war wound to a facelift. No purple hearts given for latter. I see it all the time with the 4x4's. GM just didn't make enough for all the new fans.

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I laughed out loud at that one! I like Tim’s Approach to this type of “trendy” stuff. I’ll do what I like and nothing else because of the masses.

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When all the longbeds have been shortened, we'll have to resort to stretching them back out.

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I have thought the same, exact thing.

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So 'scars' are the new patina, defined as I'm too lazy to and broke to finish my truck to make it look nice

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There is a '68 F100 running around my area with these "scars".
The owner also cut down the tool box door in the bed to about 10 inches wide.
Nice truck. I would probably paint it, but the scars are kind of cool too.
I like honest trucks.

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But it’s so fun
Beating a dead horse!

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Good one Bill.

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Hey, totally new concept! ;)

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This is great! LMBO!

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Lol I have one like that.

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Threads like this are the reason why so many guys have taken their build threads to places like Instagram.

So what if it’s become stylish to prove that you’ve done amazing work building the trucks of your dreams?

Some of the comments here are fine. But what I can’t stand is the ones where people to justify their crap by belittling the choices of others. There are literally hundreds of thousands of these trucks out there. Despite what some of us think, these trucks will never be 69’ Z28 rare.

Build what you want. Don’t like what others build? ignore their style and build your own. The scene would be pretty damn boring if every single truck looked the same.

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Beating a dead horse refers to running a topic into the ground...going on and on over something already hashed out. This thread is a whole new topic that is only related to the longbed vs shortbed or shorten long good vs shorten long bad. This topic is a young colt called leaving scars that result from the shortening and that being en vogue.

So is it just the welded seams resulting from bed shortening being considered cool or any of the other various "scars" created by welding panels? All I know is first it was patina being sun burnt faded and down through it being cool. Then even some rust holes added to that, then damaged panels being accepted, to now the scars. I'm rethinking doing any sort of restoration on my trucks. It seems before too long they'll be considered really cool just leaving them pieces of crap. What's next, puffs of smoke as you pull off? Doggone it! I just wasted that time and money on new valve guides and seals, too! :lol: I have OEM SWB bedsides for my '67 project. I'm thinking to run welds on the sides so I can be in. I hope the frame scars don't come into fashion. I'll be out of the running with my factory SWB chassis I traveled a long way to get

About the long bed guys who come out of the woodwork to announce that a sheet of plywood doesn't fit a short bed with tailgate up, I don't think there is anyone here that hasn't figured that out. I've had guys saying that type of comment all my life when I bring up one of my short beds. "Those things can't haul squat", etc. That's when I tell them, "That's why I have always owned at least one 8-lugger. You see, I'm such a truck kinda guy that a short bed is my car. A car that can haul almost as much as my long bed". Another good one is "Makes you wonder why GM has been building them since day 1"

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I didn't know it was cool either, I have just been too lazy to finish welding the inside bed panels and put the bed wood in. Now that I have found out that it is the "in" thing, finishing up and making it look factory, may devalue my devalued truck even more. Take that you dead horse!

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This! times one million.

Especially when Freiberger is involved.

K

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We are on the same wavelength today.

We've had a short box around since 1969. Light hauling, light trailering and driving back and forth to work. My 2500 HD that I got a year ago is my first departure into a "big" truck (but it's a short box, too).

K

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It wasn't Freiburger's point of view.

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If you stretch a short bed the welds won't be scars. They'll be stretch marks......:lol::uhmk:

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As ybnormal pointed out, threads like this really highlight the discrepancy and reason why there really are two segregated groups of GM truck enthusiasts. I'm the type that loves all trucks and appreciate the time and effort that the owners put into building the trucks the way they want, which is why I love this forum and Instagram for keeping up with other truck enthusiasts.

That being said, now onto the topic of this thread. Yes, it has become fairly common for the patina'd truck guys to leave their bed scars, especially on the slammed/big wheel trucks. To me, it is an anomaly of the strict adherence to the mentality of leaving the outside finish completely untouched while hot rodding everything under the sheetmetal. Personally, I don't like the scars but I do love the patina. If it were me, I'd at least paint the scars to match the patina, but they aren't my trucks! Here's a few examples.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/gallery/...m/IMG_5658.jpg

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/gallery/...m/IMG_5657.jpg

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/gallery/.../IMG_56601.jpg

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/gallery/.../IMG_56591.jpg

In fact, even the Delmo built cover truck for the current Builder's Guide is sporting bed scars.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/gallery/...m/IMG_5661.jpg

Here's an example of my personal favorite approach. This is atponder's shortened truck with the scars painted to match the original patina.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/gallery/...0/IMG_5662.jpg

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double ditto!!

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I didn't think it was a long bed cut to short debate, I thought it was about a trend to do a Chitty job then pawn it off as cool. That's why I say, crap is crap. :smoke:

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I have to agree with you on this! So here is also what i believe is the main reason the scars are in..... Most people dont have the skills to cut down the bed and weld it back together in a way that is clean enough to display! They cobbel it together and then slop bondo over it to cover their mistakes. In the true custom world you see not only scars but also full, chopped, channeled ,modded etc....sometimes in full bare metal....that proves whoever put it together is bad a$$ and proud to show their work to others! Now with that being said...my truck is a real short bed and i made the choice to go custom paint....yea as some say it displays well and looks presentable but.......I sometimes regret that choice. The reason being i feel like I cant go drive it like i want to. I might chip it, or someone might touch it etc....I can respect the guys that have crazy awesome rides and go drive the you know what out of them! If it breaks fix it and hammer down some more! I also agree these trucks will never be as rare as a 69z28 lol. And yea bed sides are expensive but I doubt that is the reason people cut down long beds...even at a grand each that is pocket change to the other mods you see on most trucks wearing scars....Its more about the satisfaction of the build and also using the original iron/patina. At least the american iron should please some of the naysayers here��. But probably not ....I'll be thrown under the bus after all I am driving a heavily modified C10 shorty that has been cut on by my wretched hands!��

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I fully intend to finish mine off. I don't get going through the time and effort of correctly shortening a bed, only to leave the welds exposed to rust. I plan on painting and sealing mine front and back.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...1&d=1491190942

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Now that is my kind of humor. laughing, Bruce

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the one's that are really amusing are those that share their opinion on why you are wrong for not thinking the same as them.

those guys are easy to spot: they're the ones that know the most and are constantly reminding everyone around them how much they know.

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Putting bed scars on your truck because some writer says it is cool is exactly the same as your middle school daughter dying her hair green because her friends say it is cool. The only difference is that she is young and will grow up one day, whereas you are just a 50-something dip****.

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Well....mine is a long bed and I've always liked the sleek, long look.
That said, I've really come to appreciate the short beds too....particularly the stepside trucks.
As for shortening them....well its rampant and it apparently seems pretty easy to do, so many guys are now doing it....seemingly on ever other truck, lol.
All the more power to them....

For every long bed that is shortened and lowered (..and there are now thousands of them)......the value drops on the next short bed.
Not being negative here....but when something is no longer a rare commodity....the pricing goes down.
Short/fleets used to be appear to be kind of rare.....now they seem to be 50% of the classic trucks out there.....and climbing.

Plus, as more guys solve out how to do it and it becomes increasingly 'text book' (if it isn't already) and something that youtube presents as a weekend yard project, then the short/fleets won't be subject to (previous) 'short/fleet bed pricing'...they'll just look for a long bed and do it themselves in a weekend with a little elbow grease.

The guys (sellers) with the original short/fleets are already qualifying and distancing themselves from the 'cut down' trucks in their ads, etc. in terms of establishing higher values for the original ones....which makes reasonable sense.

Regardless.....I don't sweat someones choice in trucks....I even give the thumbs up to the old fords I see on the road these days......all 'brothers in arms'.

Coley

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Guess my humor is different from others. Some take things a little too literal that even the laffy face smilie I always use doesn't work anymore. :lol:

I dig all trucks... short beds, long beds, fleet sides, step sides, lifted, lowered and all in between.

The internet is, well... just the internet. :)

Gary