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Everybody kinda has a different stance on the patina thing. I personally I am not a huge fan of making new paint look old, unless its a repair to an already old paint job or to blending for replaced panels, etc. I am a huge fan of a faded, weathered, and even rusty (not Minnesota fender falling off rusty) truck. I also have no problem with well done shop truck logos. Those trucks earned their wear and battle scars. In a perfect world, they would be magically restored to like new (or better) standards, but I do appreciate a patina truck.
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IMO (only opinion) I would recommend not spending any money on a "Patina Paint Job"--because--the idea that "patina" (meaning old and worn looking) is cool, is probably a passing fad. My truck looks old and worn (kind of like me) and I am OK with that, and it is nice that since it is in style no one says mean things about it. But it would be a shame to spend kind of serious money on a patina looking paint job, and then have it go out of style in a couple of years. If I were to spend paint-job money, it would be to go back to near-factory--stock is always in style. But that's just me. If a vehicle is already worn, and the owner likes the look, it might be a good idea to spray over the surface rust with a satin clear, for purposes of rust control.
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I'm liking my Blazer to a point . I still worry when i drive it just 'Cause and it would 'probly be worse of a worry if I had it painted . I think I would like to just blend in the rust repair it needs and not even clear it . I know I would not spend what it costs for a normal paint job for a fake patina paint job. ... And besides nature is the only way to get the perfect patina.
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I do agree with the sentiment that if I'm going to spend money for paint, I'm either going to go satin if its gotta be on the cheap or I'd go all out shiny. I personally wouldn't paint a vehicle and then start sanding the paint off, airbrushing, and all the other fake patina tricks that I've seen people do, unless it was a repair on a naturally patina'd one. |
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I get thumbs up everytime I take my unrestored Patina paint on the road..
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There is patina and everything else is a paint job, solid shiny from flat to deep toned pearl to fake patina. Real patina will never go out of style now that it has picked up on as a style. Back before that, about no one got it. First comment would always be "When ya gonna paint it" or "That thing needs paint". I've always done trucks (except restorations) mechanical first, then see about getting shiny, and loved the ones that never got there just as much as those that never did. A smooth running machine is a smooth running machine no matter what it looks like... unless there's a bunch of crapped out sheet metal flappin' and vibratin' :lol:
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There no paint on the truck now just light gray primer
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Yeah, that’s the old “whatchu tryin’a hide??” Paint job :)! If shiny paint isn’t in the budget, satin colors bridge the gap between original patina and first class paint jobs, IMO. Satin colors will freshen up the overall appearance but the bodywork does behave to be on the level of one done with super slick paint to still look OK.
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I just did a fake patina on my truck. Actually I did it twice cause I over did the patina the first time and it looked fake. After spending hours replacing sheet metal and sanding I thought really your just gonna mess it up with crappy paint. I wouldn't pay someone to do patina paint. When I get tired of it, i'll sand it down and do something else. The truck had 3 other paint jobs in its life so this ain't the first. Eventually I'd like a nice two tone paint, but for now its the trying to make it look old look.
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I agree that the high cost of paint and bodywork is going to keep the 'patina' look in style for a while yet.
In my opinion, there is a difference tho' to a patina'd look and simply really bad, missing or rusty paint...and its best not to confuse the two. If I had a truck that was solid and with what appeared to be a nice residual, patina paint....I would clear coat it for the time being to at least make it look bright, again tho'...that's me. Also remember, patina is one thing.....rusted out is something else, lol.;) All good Coley:chevy: |
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Here's my junk! :)
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And Again!
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I think the patina thing has "Jumped the Shark". Since now you can get a patina wrap for your new Porsche.
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I cant see real patina going out of style because as already mentioned it is a what you see is what you get scenario where repainted vehicles there is always the suspicion of what is under the paint
fabricated patina I could see going away but some of those are done really well and anything done well seems to stay in style My latest 72 with 61k miles from out in Utah |
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I think people fauxtina wrapping high dollar sports cars, pro mods, etc is proof that the look isn’t going anywhere soon myself. I think a lot of boils down to being different. I mean how many more red ‘57 Chevys or ‘69 Camaros do people really want to see?
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I love true patina ... so many people think we made mine look like that, we threw clear over what we found in the corn field
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Not much for man made patina. This is my opinion but I dont care for clear coating old paint it hids the natural luster or lack there of. Basically only way to get patina is..... to let it get fd up by nature.
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Bed in my 72. I spray it down every once and a while with used trans fluid
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See these chairs? I had a guy sandblast and prime all my old metal lawn furniture years ago. He sandblasted Friday, it rained all weekend, and primed on Monday. He uses good epoxy primer and it all looked great. I spray painted everything with various Rustoleum and Krylon colors. The DTM primer had a semi-gloss to it and I scuffed it some, but it turns out not enough. In a couple years of sun the paint faded and got chalky looking, some spots showed primer, and others some surface rust. Totally natural and real patina, not fake.
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A faux patina paint job is harder to do than a beautiful repaint. Most go over board on it. But they all lack the small dings, scrapes, and pin holes that Mother Nature produces.
Around here, the best I could find with natural patina was this truck. As found it was really beat up. I saved it and cleaned it up keeping the original paint. It’s the closest thing I could come up with as a “Survivor”. It was more of a rescue from the dead. |
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This is purely subjective.... and this is my opinion. I don't care for fake anything, some Rat Rods aren't convincing. I picked mine because it's original, and lived in the Southwest. The cowl panel has the most surface rust.
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Here are a few I've built over the years. Typically I use CLR, 0000 steelwool and a good coat Turtle Wax applied by hand.
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Not a C10, but here's my 1963 Turd Bird. It took 56 years to develop this original patina, so I'm not gonna paint over it. The first pic is after buffing it some and polishing the glass. The second pic shows how I found the car vs. the progress on half of the car after scrubbing with comet and scotchbrite to remove the funk. I plan to buff and wax one more time, reinstall all of the trim, and drive it as is.
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Here is my "Patina" survivor, simply gave it a CLR bath, Clay bar and buffed with Meguires Ultimate Compound. Still plan on waxing it, but it did come back and I like the "age" showing. Thanks for looking
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My latest acquisition is a rough old ‘Tina truck, but it runs like a new one, drives great, and everything works. A nice paint job is not in the cards for this truck right now, so I’m going to drive it as is. I’m planning on changing the wheels and tires, and making the interior a little nicer, but otherwise I’m going to rock her as is!
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Same deal with this one. I’m going to clean it up, polish the trim, put another grill in it, repaint the wheels, and drive it ugly.
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Who gives a **** if it's a fad and goes out of style. Build your truck the way you like it. I was wearing leather wraps on my arms and a chain on my wallet in high school, many years later it was a huge fad. Guess what I'm saying is do your truck the way you like not what other pepole like.
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I enjoy checking out the really nice trucks on the board. Those factory perfect paint jobs look amazing. All of my trucks have been used as trucks, non had anything close to perfect anything. But in my head I always wanted one of em to be finished close to perfection.
I have no road worthy 67-72 trucks right now. I picked up a very nice, very low mileage, 99 F150 a year or so a go. Wanted a reliable, nice looking truck I could use for a daily and my truck stuff use until I got one of our style trucks on the road. I had plans of putting together a super nice 71 to use as my daily and as a truck. But as I use my F150 I find Im having to be super careful when Im using it as a truck so as not to scratch it up and turn it in to a pile. It has me rethinking some ... Do I really want a super nice 71 that Im having to be very careful of as I use it for truck stuff, or do I want it to be like my last three trucks? Rough around the edges and not worry too much if I get a little carried away with its truck duties. The patina "style" definitely has some appeal to me. |
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I'm the same way wanted a truck to just run around in and not worry about. My 03 dodge is used as a truck but I'm careful about beating up the outside. But just about anything goes inside the bed that I can fit. I thought when I painted my patina styles truck it would be the same, but I still don't like people leaning against it.
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Why is it you see so many with all the factory paint completely off the dog house ? Around me you see plenty of them like my GMC...:metal:
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Those surfaces are wide and horizontal, so they just bake in the sun. Add in engine heat and the paint doesn't stand a chance. That's not unique to our trucks, lots of old cars do the same thing. The paint on our roof top seems to hold up better than most though. |
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Patina question. In a situation where something was resprayed 25+ years ago over the original paint with a crappy single stage paint, would you be able to "wear" through the second color into the original color and get a good patina effect?
By buffing or wet sanding? Its been in the sun ever since, and the paint is worn and dull but not "showing through". Basically its bad patina, and I was hoping to take a buffer to it or wet sand to get some more character showing without ruining whats there. |
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