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On Saturday my daughter hit black ice and rolled her pickup and horse trailer. She is okay but probably the pickup is totaled. She only had liability.

What do you all think? If it can't be fixed, should she store it on her land and try to part it out, or just sell it to a scrap yard?

2002 F-350 4x4 V-10 with about 100K miles.

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Part it.

One ton 4x4 drivetrain will bring real money.

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Unless she or you have the ability and motivation to part it fairly quickly, it will likely just sit there and become a critter magnet while losing value as the years pass.

If she liked the truck and the drive train is still in good shape, try to find a similar F-350 with a mostly dead drive train and do the swap. Again, this only works if her/you can do the swap.

Things like wheels/tires, battery, spare tire might be worth pulling before selling the remains.

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She is three long days' drive away from here, and I don't know that I would be up to doing that kind of parts swapping anyway.

I just hate to see her sell it to a salvage yard for $500 when the engine and drive train is probably worth what - $5K+++ ???

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Post it up whole on Craigs list or marketplace on facebook for a price you think fair or a little higher so you have room to talk. Probably still net you more money than the salvage yard.

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If it still runs or atleast starts up. You likely could get a easy $2000 for it.

Someone looking for a swap candidate may really want it.

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Scrapping would make me sad. So much wasted money if you go that route.

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I agree on the scrap yard price vs real value. But if it winds up sitting on her place, then it is another project that isn't getting done and every time she looks at it, a reminder of the wreck. And once critters start gnawing on things and making nests, the value will quickly go to near scrap price.

If it isn't feasible to repair, sell or scrap as quick as possible and move on.

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I’d part it out in a heartbeat but not everyone is up to the challenges that some times come with that route. The V10 isn’t the most desirable engine either unfortunately. If it was the 7.3 or the 6.slow it would probably sell itself.

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I'm pretty sure it is still sort of drive-able once it was back on its wheels. The big concern I have is how long it ran inverted before she shut it off? I suggested she get an oil sample before going too far with it. She was talking about trying to get another cab, but that seems like a big project for her.

Well, unless someone had a V10 that went bad.

She did not consult me before she bought it, but considering the low mileage and condition for the age, I can see why she bought it.

Insurance would probably have not paid anywhere near what she paid for it anyway.

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Wow. At least she isn't hurt! I got nothing on what to do with it, though.

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Yeah, I traded off our old Suburban for almost nothing :(

After three days of cleaning out mouse droppings and damage, I really didn't want to drive it back home.

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Update: the damn towing company tried to get her to sign over the title for a $600 bill, but she had it taken to her sister's place instead. Plus they were charging her $50 a day even though today was the first business day that she could take care of it :devil:

Anyway, they actually started it up and moved it back and forth. Sputtered and smoked a little at first as expected.

She is going to look for a body repair person that might be willing to fix the top of the cab which is pushed down a fair bit on the passenger side. Considering all the fabrication I've seen on this forum it doesn't seem impossible. There's really not much else wrong with it. One side of the bed is a bit wavy and a tail light broken. The front end is perfect. It has a really nice heavy grill guard and bull bar that's probably worth $1500 by itself!

Oh yeah, and one mirror broke off.

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I've had a top replaced on a rolled '85 Chevy pickup before. Shouldn't be that expensive

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Apparently I have to type something here ...

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That's it? If it doesn't look seriously worse from the side, I'd repair it, or sell it whole. No way I would part that one.

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X2, not a Ford fan but it doesn't look that bad.....

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Yeah, if it was mine and it was sitting out in my yard, I think I would pull out the front seats and start working on it with a jack and timbers and plywood pads ;)

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I’ve got a buddy in Idaho that fixes late model totals just like that. He clips the roof from another truck just like we do to ours when the roofs rust out. I was expecting a lot worse than that.

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Thanks!

Just need to find somebody like that in Michigan ...

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Looks like the $600 bumper held up well!

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Yeah, it might have only been $600 back in 2002. I was pricing them last year and some place had one on clearance for only a grand.

There was also a sort of headache rack on the bed which protected the cab some. The back window still broke.

The passenger door window broke but apparently the driver door window was down or something because it didn't break, but now it won't quite go all the way up. Probably the driver door is a bit kinked.

The windows in the little back doors didn't break but she said one or both of the back doors won't open.

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Okay, so can anyone tell me how she should go about getting an oil analysis for her gas engine ???

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The local Caterpillar dealer's service department does them here.

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I think the front axle is worth nearly a grand. Dana 60. I have an 04 F350 that I love so I hope daughter can get it fixed. She sounds like a tough chick!

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Well, I did a bit of internet research (like 5 minutes!) and found an oil analysis place right there in Grand Rapids!

So by next week she will know if the engine is any good.

Also, this came out today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpEk1FOxB0Q :lol:

They pushed the roof back up with their feet!

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What a mess! I'd never trust that again in a rollover.

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Which - her truck or the Landcruiser ???

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The one that rolled over and got the roof pushed back by the people. I'll admit that I FFWD some of the video, though. Maybe what I watched wasn't what you were talking about. I don't generally watch videos that long (or in general), due to the amount of yakking going on.

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Okay, well they trailered the LC back to Idaho which is how they got it from Idaho to Utah to begin with. Somewhere in one of the videos Alan said that he knew where there was a good LC body and he was going to swap it out before taking it back to Utah and trying to roll it again :lol:

I think my daughter's Ford is fixable though not to look pretty again, but only if the engine isn't damaged from running upside down for we don't exactly know how long. I have serious doubts that her engine is any good now. Just because it started up and ran okay for a little while doesn't mean the bearings/crank aren't damaged and it won't seize up or start knocking in a few miles or days or weeks. But I guess I'm some sort of scrooge for thinking that way :rolleyes:

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I remember hearing a Texaco Oil ad on the air where they had used Havoline oil for some number of miles, and then drained the crankcase and drove it around Manhattan in traffic, without an oil-related failure. I'm certain that you're daughters engine is fine, if she was using Havoline. And if you believe that...:lol:

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Yeah, I remember that ad :)

Also: "You can trust your car to the man who wears the star ..."

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i bought a soft rollover from the parents of the kid that rolled it, ran upside down till the gas ran out, which is pretty soon with where the pickup is in the tank. filled the intake tube absolutely full of engine oil. drained all that, filled the crankcase. that truck ran for me for 5 years and another 3 for a friend.

I say run it.

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I’ve got a 6.0 Chevy that ran upside down for a short time... it’s getting a stroker bottom end because the rods and crank are both trash... it doesn’t take long for the damage to be done.

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I'm guessing the more modern engines with tighter tolerances are more susceptible to low oil pressure damage ???

If it was an old Chevy six I would say worst case scenario would be just drop the pan and slap in some new rod/main bearings.

Hopefully she will get the oil analysis back by the middle of next week.

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It ran upside down and the spark plugs didnt pop out?

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:lol:

Don't blame me. She didn't ask me before she bought it last year. But a 2002 in near perfect condition with only 90K miles sounds like a good deal.

Come to think of it, I think our fire department F-550 has a V-10 in it. No engine problems yet but I don't think it even has 20K miles on it yet.

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maybe. mine was a 2002

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Of course the old carb engines would just die when they rolled over. :lol:

We never had any trouble* with the engine in the VW that rolled several times and landed on its side. No clue if she shut it off or not. One side sure smoked at first when we righted it and started the engine. I crawled in the window and drove it home. It sat on its side for an hour or two because some busybody called HP to come way the heck up there in the mountains :rolleyes:

I never tipped anything in spite of all the crazy places I drove. There's a wood cutting and fence access trail our our property where I drive the GMT400 pickup with no problem, but there's enough sidehill that I'm not sure I would take the 4runner up there. The jeep would be just fine though because it's not nearly so tall.

* well, other than the typical VW crap ;)