My 56 6bt 4X4 build.
 

So I hope I am doing this right.

This is My 56 GMC. I got the truck with no driveline abt 2 years ago. I installed all the driveline out of my extreamly rusted out 56 Napco 4X4. Drove it all of this summer. Now I realise that 100 ish HP No power anything and not being able to hit any highways isnt for me. So this winter I am going to swap the Cummins diesel and all the other driveline out of my 93 dodge . Also Rusty. All you guys from the south have no idea how good you have it. Most of our trucks in Canada are far rusty to even considder building , if they didnt go to the crusher log ago. So here is a few pics to get started.

The 56 , the Blk Ram donating driveline and the 56 Napco that started it all.

Dig the plywood door.... did I mention how rusty Cdn trucks can get .

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Very Nice!!! I'm excited to see the finished product.

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Welcome.
Looks like a neat project.
Kim

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Luther is putting his TF on a Dodge 4x4 chassis, might be some tips for you. Good looking truck from the pics.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=536540

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sweet

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Hi guys . Thanks for the replies . Orrie I have gone thru your build too many times to mention. I have all your powersteering images saved on my computer. It looks like a Dodge steering box is same as a gm box like you used. I plan to use the dodge steering box and mount it just like you did. I will use the orriginal steering column in the 56 . Luther just posted a few options he was considdering . Seems we are on the same page. I will likely have some more pics to post soon. I need to get all the orriginal driveline out as it is sold and I need the $$$$ to start on this part of the build.

Thanks again for the kind words all.

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I thought I would take a moment to post this . The guy that bought my napco driveline is building this.

57 Gmc Detroit diesel. Story goes a garden center somewhere had 7 built back in 57

Who knows. Its so factory looking its sick.

When he is done he will have a 4 53 detroit , Napco 4X4 1 ton with a brownie box.

I jealous

Going to paint my Cummins Detriot Diesel Alpine Green. I guess I'm a wanna be. Lol.

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6bt 56 I love the look of your truck. I always like the white hubcaps with the light blue. Are you going to try and reuse those hubcaps? It looks like we are going to be going through this swap together!

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Thanks luther.

I have sold those wheels and tires with my driveline. Im going to use a set of 16 inch GM steelies . i just got a set of 70 to 72 hubcaps. Also white. Will have the same look just bigger wheels. A little more lift as well. I was loooking for the crome caps , but i considder my self luckey i found a nice set of white ones. Im looking for rubber. sumthing abt 33 tall and has the old skool snow tire look. Was going to use the BFG Mt but all you can get is the new tread pattern . Cool but does not suit the truck. Im trying to use the stock pedals in the frame . allready have the dual master in from the first build. clutch stuff looks like it will work together .... maby....

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They will inter change my dads 1990 has a 70s chevy box

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Those dodge bodys are pretty crappy to begin with. we have 3 around here and they are rust free but lots of cracks. I wouldnt have one if it wern't for the cummins engine!

Yours is going to be cool!

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The 6bt is a waaaay better engine than the 4-53 ever was!
Noisy oil leaking detroits you can't stop the oil leaks!!

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Thanks Mknittle

I was thinking the steering boxes were the same. My Ram has a new box in it. Now I can mount same as Orrie did. I love the old dodge . It has been off the road for a while and just doing work around the farm . I hop this driveline swap goes the way it is planned out in my head .. I will head south some day and bring home a rust free Ram with a cummins some day. Crummy bodies yes , but you really cant beat the driveline . My 05 ram has been a great truck as well but the new stuff scares me . Too much stuff doing too much.

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My side job . Makes a little extra to pay for the toys. Transport boats around Ontario . Up to 38 ish feet .

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Here is a few better pics of my 56 with napco driveline . Soon to be Cummins

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My build

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=556908

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Obviously... lol

Very nice truck, I'd like to have one just like that!

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That was just me trying to figure out how to post the link. Seems everyone else has there link pop up on its own in every post.

Thanks for the complements , on the truck , not my computer ability .

go figure i just get this internet thing under control and the world is going to end tomorrow . Dam....

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LOL yep it's no more after tomorrow..

Go into your user control panel and edit your "signature". Don't ask me how to change what it says in the link like mine because someone else did it for me.

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Guess what? You're safe, the world didn't end. Awesome project you have going here. Your 56 is in really nice shape considering it's age. The 1st gen bodies are always crap, so don't feel bad. And don't disgrace that 6b by painting it that crap green. It'll never quit leaking oil. :lol:

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Thanks diesel wrencher. I went thru your build a while back . Thats a beautiful truck you built. You have the cummins Corvette as well ? That is beyond cool . I was not going to box the frame of the 56 at this point thats why I thought I would paint the cummins Detroit green , too detune it a bit ...lol

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Eng almost ready to come out . It gets picked up tomorrow am . That will be nice to get a bit of cash this time of year . Got my helpers out tonite so things are going well.


Here is a few more pics .

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Cute kid and beautiful Shepard! The truck is pretty sweet too! Can't wait to see a cummins in there.

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Well . The Cummins is out of the donor. What a dirty mess. Have a buddy with a mobile hot water pressure washer that is going to come by and clean it all after x mass.

Now to lug the Ram out to the back of the farm . I will torch the diff's out there and just cary back up to the shop with the tractor.

The 235 out of the 56 left Sat am. time to block it up nice and square and pull the last remaining Napco stuff out. It leaves Ja 2nd.

Once the Cummins is clean I'll drop the T/C and to a few test fits to see what I have gotten my self in to . Will post a few more pics when I have a moment to sit down.

I hope everyone Has a Merry Christmas.

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No problem. Yep the Corvette is mine too. You should be fine not boxing your frame. I've seen a few old chevys with big power 5.9's and the frames take it. LOL on the paint detuning it. Nice helpers too! Be sure to check the KDP before you button the engine all up.

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I vote yes for frame boxing! hows this guy gonna say anything about paint? he squirted ford blue on his cummins in a chevy! hahaha

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Color won't matter when you're behind me. :mm:

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Eng colour dont matter. I must admitt I'm fond of the Orange trucks tho. Maby you can tell by the colour of my last project

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355 Tremic T5 ford 9'' bum . 3:73

Texas Car . Lowered 2in in front 3 in back.

Lots of fun .

Sold it to pay for wedding. That was Smrt....

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:lol: Well I hope you enjoyed your wedding.

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I like your old car. It looks a lot like this one I have seen before. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/212157...vrolet-malibu/

By the way I have the pictures of that steering shaft but I haven't loaded it up yet. I will post it for you soon.
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Hi Luther

Thanks for the comments . I miss that car a lot. Basically , I wasnt driving it much. I built It before I bought this farm. Lived in i neighbourhood all pavement. Got this place and now I have 2 km of dirt road to make it in or out. We are suppost to get pavament this summer. The guy who bought the car off me has it forsale again too. For much less than he paid for it . If we get paved maby I will go knock on his door.....

That green one you sent the link for was nice . Almost Identical stance , and wheels.


As for the steering , looking forward to the pics. Inparticular the 55 column end .

Hope you and your family has a great x mass.

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A few more pics . Man that Cummins looks bigger on the floor !

Its going in tho so let the fun begin.

Here is link to a fun Video . Lots more HP than mine will ever have but what

Im looking for in the end .

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Yes they look really big on the floor. And it's a lot more fun to do burn outs with out holding the brakes. :lol:

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Hey diesel wrencher . You seem to be real sharp on the Cummins stuff. On the fuel shut off sol , I need to apply a constant 12V to keep eng running correct? I figure you will know. Also do you think I would be asking for trouble if I used the holes in the front of the block on the sides to make my mounts ? I ask this becouse the 55 to 59 frames Have a nice solid crossmember up front and the old 6cyl's mounted off the front. I figure I could make a nice strong angle bracket , bolt it up to frame and maby use Inboard boat eng mounts. It's how we mount the 5.9's in the boats for inboard applications . Figure it should work for me .... Maby....

Let me know your thoughts on this .

Thanks

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These are the mounts I was considdering using .

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6BT 56...heres a little hint or orange for you.....
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/gallery/...P101000411.JPG

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Love it Love it !!

That looks like a super resto you are in to . Keep up the good work . Going to be beautiful when done .

The big truck build is super as well. Makes my cummins swap look like a walk in the park .

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I am looking to get back on the NAPCO sometime next summer. The big truck is almost done now. Good luck with the 6bt.....I have been intrigued by the diesels but have not caught the bug yet.

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ill toss in my two cents until the other Ryan gets here. I would not run a 6bt off the front mount area and the normal transfer case/transmission mount. that is leaving ALL of the weight of the engine and transmission levered on the aluminum bell housing. that is somewhere in the neighborhood of 1300 pounds. it will have a tendency to loosen the BH bolts and crack the housing. in the boats i assume that the drive they bolt up to is rather strong and sturdily mounted very close to the flywheel housing.

you are correct on the solenoid. 12v to open the solenoid and supply fuel, cut the 12v supply and it cuts the fuel.

Ryan