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So this panel came in the shop awhile ago then the ecomony went south. I had to scale back because of no work. My shop is full of stuff so I had to make room. Now I'm back on it. Anyway somebody put a 1st gen Camaro clip under it and they did a BAD job. The front end runs down hill so the anti dive is gone. When the guy got the truck the old owner told him "Man we had a Big Block Chevy in here" you be the judge. Oh yeah the bottom of the chassis was 15.5" off the ground. That will be changed I got a nose bleed just looking at it.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_2829.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_2828.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...IMG_2827_1.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...IMG_2831_1.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...IMG_2834_1.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...IMG_2832_1.jpg After alittle plasma action we set the panel at ride height. http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...IMG_2842_1.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...IMG_2843_1.jpg I'll post some more later. |
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From the design & weld work it looks like it was done some time ago .... I'm in on your progress!!
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You never know what your going to find when starting these projects. Good looking panel. Keeps the pics. coming.
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Hey pard check this cat out.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=317178. He builds a nice x-member set up that uses G body,S-10 components and it sets the track width correctly without spacers or special control arms looks to be a very nice alternative. |
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I checked it out too .... it appears a bit MORE involved that say a: POTERBILT or SCOTTS HOTRODS or even a Fatman Fab front X-member set up (IMO).
So the advantage would be ...... Ratty 46 |
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For those of us on very limited budgets all of the suspension parts are available in most any JY and there are from time to time many components (drop spindles etc) available on CL and other sources. To each his own YMMV. As a side note the thread over on the HAMB is somewhere around 70 + pages and some good info. Do a search for S-10 frame swaps, S-10 swaps BTW are to narrow and camaro/nova too wide this set up eliminates all that so you dont end up with spacers or 2" offset wheels for a much more desirable track width and in keeping with the "Make it Handle" thread would seem to be an acceptable and affordable alternative for some. To say nothing of the safety factor!
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I might add in Lou's capable hands Im sure which ever direction he takes it it will be spot on!
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Here is the deal with this panel the owner has Champagne taste with a Ripple budget. So I have to be creative on this one.
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Ha, the ripple comment reminded me of Jerry Garcia! But thats a whole nuther topic.
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It was this kind of frame sawppin crap that turned me off to subframe scabbin. In the
80's I had a regular customer with an AD truck with a subframe it was total crap, I kept telling him it was going to break and I hope no one got hurt when it did, well it did but thankfully no one was hurt. After seeing how the pros on here do it I am warming up some to sub frame swapping, cant wait to see this one come together Not a pro Just a Joe with an S10 frame. |
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ROOTBEER 6117, I agree I've seen some pretty ****ty work when it comes to clipping a car or truck. I've always gone out of my way to brace and gusset the hell out of them when I do them. Some people shouldn't work on cars. Then again some people shouldn't allowed breed, but thats the world we live in.
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Wow, it's hard to believe what some people will do to a truck, and then admit they did it, LOL. At least the good news is that body looks to be really straight and solid.
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2) I've got some more Pictures for you guys. The 4-Bar is one of my designs I make my own rod ends. The brackets are laser cut. I have over 50 different brackets that I sell.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_2924.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_2920.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_2979.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...IMG_2980-1.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_2981.jpg I'm going to run a track bar like the old C-10's. The mount on the rear end is temporary. I have to make another one. http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_2983.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_2984.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_2982.jpg |
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3) I put some of the boxing plates in today. I'm not going to box the whole frame it's a money thing. As you guys can see in some of the photos I welded the front 4-Bar brackets right to the frame a lot of people were tell me hey you need gussets well here it is. I like to weld the bracket then take the boxing plate around the tubing this way it is welded at two points. Then I’ll put gussets on them.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_2999.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_3000.jpg The boxing plate is 1/8" plate. The next thing is cap the end of the tubing then the C-notch. http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_3002.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_3005.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_2998.jpg |
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What was your rate? Airframer? Do you have a website for the parts you sell?
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sweet milk van. haha cool truck.
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Lou ... very nice braketry .... Simple but very functionable. I like the addt'l strenght work around the 2X3 mounted to the frame.
As with the others ... web site to sell?? More pix. Ratty 46 |
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4) I’m in the middle of expanding my shop and ran out of money. So I had no place to work on it. I’m going to put an S-10 front end under this panel. I know what you’re thinking that front end is 5” to narrow. Your right but that’s ok I have a plan.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_3966.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_3967.jpg It’s just a plain Jane S-10 frontend. I had some Global West upper control arms. http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_3969.jpg For those of you that haven’t done this swap the frame horns are a little long so they need to cut back just a hair. http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_3886.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_3885.jpg Now we all know the S-10 is narrow so I decided add 4.25” to it http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_3985.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_3977.jpg I had too many pictures so I’ll do another thread. |
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5) I put the engine so I could mock up the engine mounts and the tranny mount. I was going to use a piece of round tube but I decided to go with 2x3 I’ll notch it later to clear the exhaust. http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_3998.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4002.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4016.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4018.jpg I set the ride height 6” I think it would be perfect the running boards will get the panel a lower look. |
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6) As I said before the ride height is 6”. I know there are tons of drop spindles out there. I’m using Bell Tech Drop Spindles this way if the owner wants to raise the right height it’s as simple as putting on a stock set of spindles.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4012.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4015.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4023.jpg I always build something like this at ride height for one very simple reason there will be no surprises. http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4050.jpg |
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Looks really good, glad you got this one off the road! Subscribed.
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Oh Lou .... what a tease shot with the fenders!!!
I see you've cut out more of the inner frame that the outer & left more lenght to it overall. Is your intention to modify the original to kind of slide into it?? Ratty 46 |
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Hey Lou, great build. are u the same Lou that was on the musclecar tv show on spike cause your picture looks really familiar. or is that ur picture? either way great build man. love the 4 link pieces, very cool.:metal:
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7) So here is the deal. This crazy rig that you are looking at is simple. These pointers are from an alignment rack that was going away. The shop I worked at got a new one so they didn’t need them they are for checking toe. I made some longer pointers and got some conduit from home depot. Now I can check my wheel base by myself. The axles have the machine center, the spindle has one also. I’ve used this thing for years. Set it were you want and lock it down.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4052.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4060.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4076.jpg This is the kinda stuff you come up with when you work alone. http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4070.jpg The body isn’t all the way down on the frame. So it looks funny in the pictures. http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4075.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4091.jpg |
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Troy54gmc, Yes it's me. I don't just build Musclecars.
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Very nice work on the frame.
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Nice save..thoes 4 link brackets are sweet..
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Hey right on Lou, i really enjoed watching you on that show, you were the only one with a personality. Hey i know a couple of people allready asked this but where can we get some 4 link brakets like that? are u selling them?? Nice work on the alignment tool very cool. i to do mostly work alone, its amazing what you can think of when your alone and need a helping hand.
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sweet panel...!
I enjoyed your work on MusleCars too... always DVR'd it so I could run it in the shop! |
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08) I’ll tie the front end and the back half of the frame together. After that I’ll finish boxing the frame. Plumb the brake lines and put in the steering after that I’m done with this Panel.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4093.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4095.jpg I took out a piece of the frame them http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4087.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4089.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4097.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4098.jpg |
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Man that frame was "JackedUp".....:lol: But you got it under control..:sumo:
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Lou,
I was wondering if you could show some pictures of how you addressed the additional width in the steering center link and sway bar if you're keeping it? |
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9) So today I put the Gas tank in the Panel. I don’t know who made it. I would say it is about a 15 Gallon tank. Normally the tank is on the passenger side but, the 4-Bar is in the way now. I figured I would put the tank in the rear. The rear cross member was trimmed and it fit like butter baby.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...IMG_4098-1.jpg Now it’s not the best picture but if you look close you can see the cross member. http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4115.jpg I took some 1” tubing and welded it to the shock bar. Then some 2.5” flat stock was bent for the top straps. They will keep the tank from going forwards and backwards. http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4107.jpg A piece 1.125” tubing bent at 90 degrees welded to the chassis. They will keep the tank from sliding side to side. Then a 1”x 2” for the bottom and the gas tank is in place. http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4113.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4114.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4109.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4112.jpg |
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10) In one of the other post, I tacked a temporary bracket for the Panhard bar. I finally got around to putting in on. I have done this design many times. Its always worked good for me. I just have one more gusset to put in.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4120.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4119.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4116.jpg I’m sorry that the pictures aren’t that great. The other thing I did was box the frame were I tied it back together. I used some .125 plate (Mild Steel) nothing special. http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4101.jpg The factory S-10 frame is boxed so it is a little wider than the 47 frame. So I made the outside edge flush then put a plate to cover the opening on the inside. http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4103.jpg I’ll get some better Pictures of the frame when I pull the body off . |
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11) I decided to put another couple of braces on the shock bar. It just looked like it would flex too much.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4111.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4124.jpg I made it real simple some 1.125” x .120 wall tubing. http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4126.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_4125.jpg I’m going to run a brace between to the two bars. Then it’s done. So the next step is the front end. To answer some of the questions I’ve been getting about the front end. No I’m not putting a rack and pinion on it. Yes I am putting a sway bar on it. |
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Hey Lou,
What angle do YOU install the coil overs at & why?? Nice job still/so far. Ratty 46 |
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12) Here are some random pictures of the front end that I cut up for the Panel. Now as you all know the S-10 is 5 inches to narrow. I’ve been told that the “G” body front ends are ok if you don’t get to low. I’m not sure because I didn’t have a G-body around. So the S-10 was the one for the job.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/1_2486-1.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...U/IMG_3980.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...FOU/1_2506.jpg http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...FOU/1_2512.jpg |
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