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1badtransam 01-29-2020 09:05 PM

Lowered too much! Need options
 
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Hey everyone!

I'm pretty sure I dropped my truck too much. and need some options to raise it to clear the tires. Bummed about it after the lowering kit and new disc brake conversion.

I installed 2.5" drop spindles and 2" lowering coil springs from Brothers. I'm running P245 50 20 tires on 20" rims.

As for the rear, I have on order from Western Chassis lowering leaf springs - 4" drop

Check out the photo and let me know what you might recommend.

Thanks!
Fred

Abomb 01-29-2020 09:23 PM

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If the rear is still at stock height, just wait....when you lower the rear, the front won’t look so extreme. If at that point, it’s still too low, put the stock front springs back in...

1badtransam 01-29-2020 09:38 PM

Re: Lowered too much! Need options
 
OK, they should be here in a week. I'll install them and wait and see if the tires rub. Thanks for your time

Mike C 01-29-2020 09:49 PM

Re: Lowered too much! Need options
 
What's the wheel size and offset? My truck is lowered 4 1/2" front 7" back with 235 55 17 and 275 55 17 with no tire rub. 8" and 9" rims respectively, both zero offset (4.5" bs front 5" bs rear)

1badtransam 01-29-2020 10:02 PM

Re: Lowered too much! Need options
 
I have no idea what the off set of the wheels are. I know the wheels are 20"

raggedjim 01-29-2020 10:42 PM

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Nice looking truck, you got more pics? Actually, I think it sits just right...

Good luck, Rg

ltdmstr 01-29-2020 10:47 PM

Re: Lowered too much! Need options
 
If you want it to sit level, and are going to use 4" drop springs in the rear, the 2.5" drop spindles are all you need in the front. That's what's on the truck in my avatar. If you want it raked, I would leave the front as is.

Andy4639 01-29-2020 11:02 PM

Re: Lowered too much! Need options
 
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Originally Posted by 1badtransam (Post 8668670)
Hey everyone!

I'm pretty sure I dropped my truck too much. and need some options to raise it to clear the tires. Bummed about it after the lowering kit and new disc brake conversion.

I installed 2.5" drop spindles and 2" lowering coil springs from Brothers. I'm running P245 50 20 tires on 20" rims.

As for the rear, I have on order from Western Chassis lowering leaf springs - 4" drop

Check out the photo and let me know what you might recommend.

Thanks!
Fred

One option is air bags in the front and back. I have all 4 in my 71 and it rides very nice. They never scrub are bottom out. Air Lift I have the backs on a small compressor and the backs just stay at 20lbs all the time. You can physically see it lift the truck up when filling them. It's as your riding on air! :chevy:

REDROCKER652002 01-30-2020 01:36 AM

Re: Lowered too much! Need options
 
What is rubbing? Might be you just need to trim the fender where it folds in, if that makes sense. I had an old ford I had to do that with. Just trimmed the fender, and bam, all good.

Ironangel 01-30-2020 03:14 AM

Re: Lowered too much! Need options
 
When I first dropped my first truck (72 C/10 LWB) with 2-1/2" drop spindles and 2" drop springs it rubbed in turns and bumps with BFG 275/60R-16's...It was spongey in the bumps, bouncy...So I pulled the 2" drop springs and cut 1/2 coil off the bottom of the factory springs and "wahlah!" I gained 1" clearance and a stiffer rub free ride. I ran my sway bar through the front frame brackets too. If you don't have a front sway bar get one! ;)

SactoJim 01-31-2020 01:09 PM

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Hey 1badtransam......could you do me a huge favor and get dimension from fender edge to wheel center? I'm trying to nail down springs and spindles for my truck......much appreciated!
Jim

67ChevyRedneck 01-31-2020 01:43 PM

Re: Lowered too much! Need options
 
I did the same thing, 2.5 spindle, 2" spring. It was too low, my wheels were rubbing too.

Swap to a 1.5" spring or use a coil spacer.

My truck ended up somewhere around a 4/6 drop.

See my post #112 here:

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=609973&page=5

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...1&d=1471027619

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...1&d=1471027619

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...1&d=1522072508

cebra 01-31-2020 05:51 PM

Re: Lowered too much! Need options
 
I did a 2.5" drop spindle and 2" cpp springs with 245/40/20 and I was rubbing a ton. Switched to stock springs with the 2.5" spindles.

KevinK7 02-01-2020 11:17 AM

Re: Lowered too much! Need options
 
I am by no means the expert here, but as for your options, I think as others have noted, going back to a less spring drop seems the easiest correction.
Although unlikely, consider a change in the rim/tire setup (50 series 20" may be too much for the drop you're shooting for)

Jcfcamaro 02-01-2020 11:54 AM

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I did the same frontend swap and I think it's to low also. I'm going to put my stock front springs back in and see what it looks like.

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 02-01-2020 01:18 PM

Re: Lowered too much! Need options
 
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Originally Posted by cebra (Post 8669718)
I did a 2.5" drop spindle and 2" cpp springs with 245/40/20 and I was rubbing a ton. Switched to stock springs with the 2.5" spindles.

I did the same, factory coils with 2.5" drop spindles. With the 4" drop leaf springs my truck is level.

From what I understand, a 2.5" spindle drop + 2" drop springs is a 6.5" drop:metal: Word is you double the amount of the coil spring reduction, so a 1" coil spring is actually a 2" drop.

67ChevyRedneck 02-01-2020 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402 (Post 8670691)
I did the same, factory coils with 2.5" drop spindles. With the 4" drop leaf springs my truck is level.

From what I understand, a 2.5" spindle drop + 2" drop springs is a 6.5" drop:metal: Word is you double the amount of the coil spring reduction, so a 1" coil spring is actually a 2" drop.

That's only if you're adding/taking material from stock springs. I added a 3/8" spacer to my springs and it raised it about 1/2".

If you order a set of "1 inch drop" or "2 inch drop" springs, those springs are designed to be that much lower than a stock set up. The only caveat to that is these trucks are 50+ years old and the stock springs may be sagging by a whole 1/2"-1" already, so you might not get as much drop as you thought because you're comparing it to a worn out suspension.

clear-lake-gmc 02-02-2020 09:45 AM

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good info here was looking into 2.5 drop spindles and a 2" spring maybe i will just got with the spindle for now, would a modular drop spindle from cpp bring the wheel in a little just looking through the products available and find most drop spindles push your wheels out modular ones are supposed to retain track width, im sure someone knows more about this and it would be costly to swap out drop spindles now.

Old_Gold 02-02-2020 07:18 PM

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Another question for 1badtransam:
Great fender emblems, where'd you find those!?

Jim

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 02-04-2020 01:03 AM

Re: Lowered too much! Need options
 
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Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck (Post 8671000)
That's only if you're adding/taking material from stock springs. I added a 3/8" spacer to my springs and it raised it about 1/2".

If you order a set of "1 inch drop" or "2 inch drop" springs, those springs are designed to be that much lower than a stock set up. The only caveat to that is these trucks are 50+ years old and the stock springs may be sagging by a whole 1/2"-1" already, so you might not get as much drop as you thought because you're comparing it to a worn out suspension.

That makes sense, thanks for the clarification.

1badtransam 02-10-2020 05:40 PM

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Thanks everyone for all of the input! Rear leaf springs fin ally came in. I just put them on and dropped the truck. I love how it sits. I ended up putting a new booster/MC/PV in it so now have to bleed the brakes to see if and how much it will rub up front. I like the spacer idea.

I'll get those measurements for you SactoJim.

The side emblems are a custom job by me. I had the original ones rechromed, repainted the GMC red and added my own 3M graphic of the American Flag. I'm glad you noticed it - first person. :)

Here is a new photo of how it sits now and the one below is what it looked like when I bought it. Yes.. it's a long bed.

1badtransam 02-10-2020 05:52 PM

Re: Lowered too much! Need options
 
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Originally Posted by KevinK7 (Post 8670630)
I am by no means the expert here, but as for your options, I think as others have noted, going back to a less spring drop seems the easiest correction.
Although unlikely, consider a change in the rim/tire setup (50 series 20" may be too much for the drop you're shooting for)

Thanks Kevin, let's hope once I get it out of the shop it rolls and turns without rubbing.

1badtransam 02-10-2020 05:53 PM

Re: Lowered too much! Need options
 
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Originally Posted by Old_Gold (Post 8671390)
Another question for 1badtransam:
Great fender emblems, where'd you find those!?

Jim

The side emblems are a custom job by me. I had the original ones rechromed, repainted the GMC red and added my own 3M graphic of the American Flag. I'm glad you noticed it - first person.

1badtransam 02-10-2020 05:54 PM

Re: Lowered too much! Need options
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck (Post 8669592)
I did the same thing, 2.5 spindle, 2" spring. It was too low, my wheels were rubbing too.

Swap to a 1.5" spring or use a coil spacer.

My truck ended up somewhere around a 4/6 drop.

See my post #112 here:

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=609973&page=5

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...1&d=1471027619

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...1&d=1471027619

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...1&d=1522072508


Very nice truck! I like the idea about adding the spacers.

1badtransam 02-10-2020 05:57 PM

Re: Lowered too much! Need options
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SactoJim (Post 8669574)
Hey 1badtransam......could you do me a huge favor and get dimension from fender edge to wheel center? I'm trying to nail down springs and spindles for my truck......much appreciated!
Jim

Here you go:

14 3/8" Fender Edge to the center of the wheel


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