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85_prairieboy 05-18-2015 08:15 PM

Cherokee Front Springs
 
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I decided to throw the dice and swapped my cut stock coils for a set of Cherokee springs. I am amazed by the difference in stored energy. I shouldn't be. The cherokee springs were 18.5 inches free length and squashed down to the perfect height. I used to be able to lift the bumper by hand an inch and now I can pull it up 5-6. I ran it last weekend with full exhaust, n/a and breathing all the hot air from under the hood and ran 13.1 @ 100 mph, the best i have ever done with out nitrous. I'm headed back to the track this weekend and am hoping for a shot of the front tires off the ground.

Super73 05-18-2015 10:33 PM

Re: Cherokee Front Springs
 
If you continue to use this spring and go faster, you will need a very good shock to control that spring. I am running in to that issue now and actually moving back to a shorter stiffer spring. My Rancho 9000's just can't keep the front end from coming up to fast.

I don't want to invest in the shock now as I would like to do a full mustang 2 conversion down the road. Spending $1k on shocks twice just does not make sense.

85_prairieboy 05-18-2015 11:26 PM

Re: Cherokee Front Springs
 
When the front end rises too fast does it unload the rear tires after the initial hit? Currently I am getting some wheelspin when I first launch and then they hook up

Super73 05-18-2015 11:40 PM

Re: Cherokee Front Springs
 
Take a close look at the videos I posted in this thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=670129

This was last weekend. You can see it lifts both fronts. When it is coming down, it unloads the rear tire about 10-15' out. If I had a shock that could slow the rise, it would definitely help.

The options I have are 1) try to add more add more power, which might carry the wheelie further and still have the issue or 2) slow the rise.

85_prairieboy 05-18-2015 11:53 PM

Re: Cherokee Front Springs
 
Wow I see what you mean, I am going to try get some good video like that to see what is going on

71Dragtruck 05-19-2015 11:58 AM

Re: Cherokee Front Springs
 
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Originally Posted by 85_prairieboy (Post 7177745)
Wow I see what you mean, I am going to try get some good video like that to see what is going on

What are you running for front shocks? I have a set of good QA1's that might fit your truck.

Super73 05-19-2015 01:32 PM

Re: Cherokee Front Springs
 
I have Rancho 9000's mounted in the stock 1963 location which is the back side of the control arm. I no longer have them mounted to the frame the way they were from the factory. I welded a couple ears that sit above the frame rail. I would be interested in them.

BR3W CITY 05-19-2015 03:42 PM

Re: Cherokee Front Springs
 
I used the 9-11" QA1 promastars on mine, with a similar setup and I'm pretty dang happy about the way it controls the front. If your tabs are higher, they may still work for you, but QA1 makes a step longer which are like 10.25-13 stroke which would make up the height difference if you needed to.

Super73 05-19-2015 08:09 PM

Re: Cherokee Front Springs
 
Thing is the Rancho does a fine job at 1.5ish 60's and slower. I have almost 8" of front suspension travel (shock sees roughly 4"). Combo works fine on motor, but on the bottle, it just had to much pretty foe l for the spring shock combo I have. I really need to go double adjustable with a real good shock.

85_prairieboy 05-20-2015 01:06 AM

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85_prairieboy 05-20-2015 01:10 AM

Re: Cherokee Front Springs
 
Right now I have a set of Nitro drop shocks. Less than ideal. I'm going to see what happens this weekend with nitrous and if it's not good I might take you up on those 71Dragtruck
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BR3W CITY 05-20-2015 01:25 AM

Re: Cherokee Front Springs
 
The nitros are usually VERY stiff on compression and don't control lift much. In generally they leave soft and land hard, not really ideal.

scatesracing 05-21-2015 05:16 PM

Re: Cherokee Front Springs
 
What year Cherokee springs are you guys using?

Super73 05-21-2015 07:33 PM

Re: Cherokee Front Springs
 
Mine were early 90's V8 grand Cherokee

scatesracing 05-21-2015 11:24 PM

Re: Cherokee Front Springs
 
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Originally Posted by Super73 (Post 7181051)
Mine were early 90's V8 grand Cherokee

I picked up a pair out of an 03 grand Cherokee with the 4.0 I6. I hope they work.

85_prairieboy 05-25-2015 12:26 AM

Re: Cherokee Front Springs
 
Yes mine were from an early 90's Grand Cherokee as well. There were 2 options and I chose the heavy duty set. $118 Canadian for a new set. I think my suspension is working ok for now. Hooked hard enough on an unprepped track to hit my head on the back window!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emAKN8888zw

Super73 05-25-2015 03:05 AM

Re: Cherokee Front Springs
 
Definately transferred weight.

skeeterbug 08-18-2015 02:18 PM

Re: Cherokee Front Springs
 
Dang my luck go figure..... I have a set of front and rear springs out of a yj that i used the rear springs for lowering springs back in the day before going coilover rear. I also have the Front/ rear springs i just took off my 2013 JKU 4-door from a lift kit i just installed on it, but no Cherokee springs....crap! I wonder what the spring rates on the cherokee,...JKU springs may work, i think ill try it. I will let yall know how they work out.

Ont67shortbox 10-22-2015 11:11 PM

Re: Cherokee Front Springs
 
will the Cherokee springs work with a BBC,or is the engine too heavy, I see everyone that tried this had a SBC,would like to heard about BBC experience

BR3W CITY 10-23-2015 01:28 AM

Re: Cherokee Front Springs
 
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Originally Posted by Ont67shortbox (Post 7350593)
will the Cherokee springs work with a BBC,or is the engine too heavy, I see everyone that tried this had a SBC,would like to heard about BBC experience

I resent that, don't lump the LS guys in with the GenI SBC riff-raff. :devil:

Ont67shortbox 10-23-2015 12:03 PM

Re: Cherokee Front Springs
 
sorry, LS and SBC guys,no offence intended, just want to know if this is worth trying with a BB

Super73 10-23-2015 12:45 PM

Re: Cherokee Front Springs
 
Get the front end weighed and you will likely have your answer. But if I had to guess, I think it will be on the bump stops :)


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