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BigDooley77 10-11-2018 01:19 PM

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When I was 5 or 6 my dads friend had what I always thought was the greatest truck ever it was huge! Big! and tough looking sounded mean it was everything I thought a truck should be at the time an 80s all black GMC crew cab dually. Watching it in movies only made me want one more but I just never found one I wanted nor did I have the space. But in 2015 it found me I was working at a parts store talking to a customer about the truck I've always wanted when he says I have 2 of them I'll sell you one. We set up a time a friend and I went and looked at it was dusk when we rolled in the first truck in sight had a street light shining down on it was a 1976 Chevrolet Silverado Blue and white chrome horns on the roof it was beautiful it was straight but a bit rusty (which is fine). He comes out to greet us while we're looking this truck over. Finally he says the other one is down the hill so we head over my buddy in front of me I'm still oogling the Silverado behind me. Under a tree sits another crew cab dually its dark and the color isn't popping at all I get closer its a dark metallic gray and boy has this truck seen some action the fenders are covered in duct tape many trim pieces are missing but as I'm cresting the rear I notice the tailgate says GMC I yell at my buddy in excitement "dude this is a GMC!!" his response " I thought you noticed that". Now at this point you don't know me but GMC nameplate means a lot to me I know its not really special, but it is to me. So we get to talking about it he wants $1k for the gray 1977 GMC and $1200 for the 1976 Silverado I can only nudge him to $900. Let me tell you the truck is a heap its had a fire in the engine bay the rear tires are all in distress 2 completely blown out lol well I drove it home that night.

Andler2008 10-11-2018 01:30 PM

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What're your plans for this thing?

BigDooley77 10-11-2018 01:32 PM

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So some time goes by it only takes a few months before the 454 breathes its last breathe ugh sadly no oil pressure loud knocking then boom stops running I pull the motor replace it with a "good" used 454 I'm sure you know what happens next the second 454 doesn't last 3 months I park the old dually outta spite! now this is a truck I've always wanted so I'm not giving up! finally I drag it down to the shop an pull the engine and transmission out tear the engine down 7-8 rod bearings spun so it goes up to the local machine shop. While its out I start ripping into the interior I want bucket seats and a console the radio hasn't worked since I bought it the fuel tank selector didn't work the windshield was cracked from the fire and for some reason the column was completely destroyed (supposedly it got stolen once I don't believe it but what do you say). I start the dye process turning the vibrant red and white interior black. A local guy that parts these trucks out brought me some 89-91 bucket seats I talk to an aftermarket seat upholstery company after going a few rounds he will charge me more to make the rear seat since his kit comes with the 89-91 middle row for suburban. Well I call the local guy up and luckily he still has the middle row. Upholstery starts.

Added heated seats while I was at it :ito:

BigDooley77 10-11-2018 01:35 PM

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some interior shots as worked to get it done over the winter.

BigDooley77 10-11-2018 01:38 PM

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instead of replacing the column I just fixed it its was actually very easy still needed to do the windshield lol

BigDooley77 10-11-2018 01:42 PM

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here's some shots of the engine, the machine shop update photo and the serpentine mock up. finally ready to stab it in for those that don't know the oil cooler mounts to the core support, there are 2 dimples that will need to be drilled out in order to bolt it in.

BigDooley77 10-11-2018 01:54 PM

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I decided to go with electric fans so I pulled some from a 98-02 F-body ( v6 and v8 use the same fans in these years btw) some mock up before I used aluminum to make a bracket. riveted the fans to the bracket and made the bracket fit the factory fan shroud area.

got the engine back in wired the fans up with a generic Jegs kit plenty of room too I got o fire the truck up but its not right I really messed up ugh what could I have done... I fumbled around trying to diagnose the issue before finally deciding the timing is way off sadly I had placed the variable timing gear on the crankshaft wrong I was off 3 teeth I could explain this all day and some guys will just say dude its so simple yadda yadda don't wanna hear it lol fixed the issue new valves, new pushrods, and for safety new lifters. fired up timed the engine its purring like a kitten I had quite a bit done to the engine nothing crazy but I wanted as much torque as possible from the 454 and I wanted it cheap!. k1301 cam summit dual plane worked 781s.

BigDooley77 10-11-2018 02:00 PM

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THE DUCT TAPE COMES OFF! lol
the fenders were so destroyed it was easier to cut them off rather than unbolt I got lucky and found a set for $100 that's a steal doesn't hurt they were gray as well.

BigDooley77 10-11-2018 02:08 PM

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What're your plans for this thing?

Plans are 22s, air bags, black and white paint scheme, and a 12v/4l80e combo. then pull a 41ft camper

Andler2008 10-11-2018 02:12 PM

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Plans are 22s, air bags, black and white paint scheme, and a 12v/4l80e combo. then pull a 41ft camper

22's and bags. Nice. Got a specific setup for the front and rear suspension in mind? As in new A-Arms, 4 link, etc.

I like the idea of black/white paint and the cummins engine. If I knew anything about diesels and had the extra cash, I'd be going that route as well.

BigDooley77 10-11-2018 02:19 PM

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I'm going to cup the front a arms and 4link the rear. here's how I see the 12v if I can learn how to build transmissions and engines I can learn the ins and outs of a Cummins. I'll make some mistakes I'm sure but I'll finally learn.

Andler2008 10-11-2018 02:24 PM

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I'm going to cup the front a arms and 4link the rear. here's how I see the 12v if I can learn how to build transmissions and engine I can learn the ins and outs of a Cummins. I'll make some mistakes I'm sure but I'll finally learn.

Cool deal. We're in the same boat. I plan on using cups on the OEM arms and a 4 link on the rear as well with the bags over the axle.

That's typically how I look at everything lol I just get antsy and want to do more fab work than engine work.

BigDooley77 10-11-2018 03:12 PM

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So it had been running for sometime but I kept having issues. Driving down the road it would stumble and feel very under powered and going up hills super sketchy and one time she flat out left me standed I poked around found the accelerator pump wasn't working well here we go Carbs are simple and Qjets are very straight forward so got a rebuild kit and tore it down long behold leafs in the fuel filter well then there's the starvation. finished it pulled the tanks all new seals and hoses to insure I was good to go 2 inline filters.

BigDooley77 10-11-2018 03:17 PM

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I redid the console so much nicer now added the AUX cable and usb to the driver side along with putting the heated seat switches in the sides makes it look more uniform and not stand out.

here's some shots of the original paperwork and a plate my friend got me since my OE was faded.

stereo installed as well

BigDooley77 10-11-2018 03:20 PM

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Cool deal. We're in the same boat. I plan on using cups on the OEM arms and a 4 link on the rear as well with the bags over the axle.

That's typically how I look at everything lol I just get antsy and want to do more fab work than engine work.

I try to do everything myself mainly because I can't afford having another person do it.

BigDooley77 10-11-2018 03:24 PM

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Well its that time the windshield has to come out let me tell you its easy to pull a windshield and its a bear to get back in lol your arms are gonna ache

oh and surprise rain was forecast the day I started doing the windshield nothing like a boost of it has to get done and that's that!

also rebuilt the wing windows

focusedontheprize 10-11-2018 03:31 PM

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Love it, I am in for the build.

Just picked up a '86 Chevrolet C30 CCDW with 26K original miles. I am going through it also at the moment.

BigDooley77 10-11-2018 03:34 PM

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the next step for me was the bed even though I want to do the body and paint work it wont happen for at least another year... sadly that's the way it goes sometimes. Bust out the tools this bed floor is awful. sadly its not letting post the bed floor pictures :waah: but since its always nice to have light and even better to make something look factory I put lights under the bed lip and installed the factory cargo light switch.

BigDooley77 10-11-2018 03:36 PM

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Love it, I am in for the build.

Just picked up a '86 Chevrolet C30 CCDW with 26K original miles. I am going through it also at the moment.

:metal:
I can't get enough of reading everyones builds if you do a thread let me know!

BigDooley77 10-11-2018 03:50 PM

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so a small amount of time has gone by and the teeth on the flexplate are not doing well no matter what I do more shims less shims ugh keeps grinding well now the teeth are destroyed so I had to change the flexplate the th400 is dead in the way don't you know. so I changed the flexplate to a fancy 6 bolt one because I just picked up a 4l80e :lol: well what a perfect time to put it all in right before the monsoon here in Kansas. its in the truck now i rushed getting the controller i wish i would have researched just a little more i got a painless but really its a USShift which i don't mind... just that the USShift branded one was slightly cheaper... you live you learn. now i know guys are gonna say you could go Holley and have efi and a trans controller for not much more and i agree but that's if your staying with a gas engine ;) my plan is to go 12v so i don't need the efi stuff, but i do need a controller. I dabble with LS engines and thought about just building one but after adding it all up i just didn't see the "cheapness" of building it these aftermarket systems come with really easy tuning software and so many cool options!.

so i built a bracket for the computer and put it in my center console outta sight but its easily accessible if i need to get to it. the 80e swap was fairly straight forward and the th400 trans mount fit the 4l80e. i added an HD2 kit and oversized the AFL valve piece of mind. I'm still finishing this part up.

BigDooley77 10-11-2018 03:58 PM

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so here we are winter is almost here. I have just a few things left to complete for the swap. here some photos of what I have finished cooler line extensions, selector indicator, and TPS sensor bracket. I still need to build the linkage and finish drilling the frame the driveshaft is cut and ready for pick up hoping to get that Saturday.

BigDooley77 10-11-2018 04:03 PM

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Here's some misc. photos, I upgraded the alternator and all the lighting. I'm also working on installing an aux battery to aid the system.

OutlawDrifter 10-11-2018 06:40 PM

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I'll follow along, nice work so far! Someday I'd like to build a square dually for my shop.

Dads79GMC 10-11-2018 09:41 PM

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Looks great!!

BigDooley77 10-15-2018 04:27 PM

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Got a PM about the rear seat. The upper portion was a straight forward swap just set it in place hold the hinge fold it down drill holes screw the tapered bolts in. the Lower section I cut the legs down and welded them back to together this shortens the legs and allows you to fold the seat up. On the passenger side it doesn't do much except when the bottom is folded out the top can fold down further making it easier to reach the middle. The top portion will not fold down all the way since the hinge on the bottom will not allow enough travel. on the driver side I used the center support took some metal out and notched it now this side flipping up is nice it allows you to easily use the center area for storage I think I'm going to find or build a tray for that area.

BigDooley77 10-16-2018 11:30 AM

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So last night I got down to the shop to work for awhile since the cable kit showed up finally. Found out how much the TPS bracket I made wasn't going to work lol so more cutting and some bending has everything working now. its too bad no one makes a cheap bracket for the QJet everything is $130-$150 on the market and I just don't have the funds lately. Still need to finish drilling the holes for the crossmember and finish up the linkage.

photo of the driveshaft Local shop needed the middle of the support bearing mount to the back of the transmission (37" with yoke in) then took out 1 inch boom 36" driveshaft with a new u-joint and slip yoke installed.

BigDooley77 10-19-2018 11:16 AM

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Finished the linkage last night used a fellow members guide made short work of the task. Backed it out of the shop went around the block (quite a ways when you live in the middle of no where) it shifted flawlessly which just made my day! all the hard work is paying off finally. I still need to hook up the speedometer cable and Cable-X unit. I bought the unit used and the cable was cut so I need a new one. I also need to finish the tuning on the controller ( need to input the TPS information) assemble the last few pieces of the interior clean it all back up.

While on my drive I tested the seat heaters too wow that's a nice feature for an old truck! I will continue adding creature features my next project is adding Fog lights to a bumper I just picked up. I'm stuck on the switch I'm thinking about using the 89-91 suburban dash double switch fuel selector on one and the fog lights on the other then using the unused lighted section under the speedometer to have it illuminate Fog lamps when the switch is on.

I'm seriously thinking about adding power windows to the truck also.

OutlawDrifter 10-19-2018 11:44 AM

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Any progress is a good thing!

BigDooley77 02-19-2019 02:59 PM

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Unfortunately there was some issues with the trans of course... right.... buy used and the seller says its good its most likely junk. 3rd gear direct drive was toast its been a really cold winter so it took me some time to really get motivation by the time I felt like it we were in January. So I decided the best thing to do was send the transmission to a local guy its done now and back altos red eagle and kolenes to help strengthen it the rest of the hd2 kit installed (springs) along with new bushings etc. I should have it back in the truck this coming weekend then we can get back to the fun stuff.

BigDooley77 02-25-2019 05:59 PM

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Transmission is back I didn't take a photo of it fully assembled but here's a photo of the case looking might darn pretty. I did get the transmission back in.

OutlawDrifter 02-25-2019 06:01 PM

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We are getting extra winter up here in the northeast part of the state. Glad you are getting something accomplished!

BigDooley77 02-25-2019 06:11 PM

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So on Saturday we installed the trans hooked everything up filled it up backed the truck out whew that's one movement. I pull out of the driveway and then turn onto the main road, it seems like its going fine so I put my foot down a little to make sure it will down shift and it hesitates then does it. I pull off the road turn around to head back it starts really acting up like it can't move its own power. Starts feeling like its in neutral I start loosing momentum so I stop at the bottom of the hill before my road I give it a minute then proceed up the hill its holding first gear and creeping up the hill but I can't depress the pedal otherwise it starts revving up again finally I get it home and park it I did notice on the controller it read ErH now the manual doesn't decode this so I called the manufacturer today they don't know what that code means. I believe I have figured it out ErH Error Ratio High which doing some searching seems to narrow it down to pressure switch which is brand new or the VSS which is very old. since my controller doesn't use the input sensor I'm going to swap the sensors and see if that eliminates the issues. I really hope it does I miss driving this truck.

here's it running out in the cold night air right after I backed it out.

BigDooley77 02-25-2019 06:15 PM

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We are getting extra winter up here in the northeast part of the state. Glad you are getting something accomplished!


I'm in Leavenworth county we got a bit of snow the other day but it pretty much fell off the screen for the weekend we did get rain on and off all day Saturday when I backed the truck out is was barely snowing (flurries) but the wind was brutal!!

I'm trying! I've had so many ups and downs that I'm really loosing motivation it gets harder to go back out each time it fails to meet the goal.

BigDooley77 02-25-2019 07:56 PM

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well issue still occurring. maybe the tps is no good perhaps I need to lay down some coin on an aftermarket one.

BigDooley77 04-18-2019 03:22 PM

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so it's taken longer than it ever should have but I found the culprit the stock settings on the controller had the 2-3 shift at 5,500rpm I moved it to 2800rpm shifted without issue. my homemade TPS worked just fine I did replace it with a accushift TPS because I was worried my homemade kit was intermittent or just poorly crafted but the symptoms continued. I had gone through so much because I figured my work would be the problem and not the computer programming since I used a base tune. but atleast I can drive it now I've waited so long for this day. So next on the agenda is rear tires then either paint and body work or chassis work I'm unsure yet I'm just happy to be driving it again.

LT7A 04-20-2019 02:06 AM

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so it's taken longer than it ever should have but I found the culprit the stock settings on the controller had the 2-3 shift at 5,500rpm I moved it to 2800rpm shifted without issue. my homemade TPS worked just fine I did replace it with a accushift TPS because I was worried my homemade kit was intermittent or just poorly crafted but the symptoms continued. I had gone through so much because I figured my work would be the problem and not the computer programming since I used a base tune. but atleast I can drive it now I've waited so long for this day. So next on the agenda is rear tires then either paint and body work or chassis work I'm unsure yet I'm just happy to be driving it again.

Good work! Sounds so frustrating. I also tend to think whatever I did must be the problem. Not always. I'll admit I really like the gray paint with the 1 year only ocher trim.

focusedontheprize 06-17-2019 03:28 PM

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Anything new with the Dooley.

BigDooley77 06-17-2019 04:31 PM

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A lot well kinda... yeah I did get 4 new tires for the rear 235/85/16 that broke the bank but she's semi safe at highway speeds (needs suspension cleaned up and items refreshed). 65 mph is just barely over 2k rpm. still having issues with the Abbot Cable-X speedometer convertor pain in the.... so I've been using my controller for a speedometer when I feel unsure. as seen in the previous photos the driver side fender was smashed in and the trim was destroyed along with the black hood deal well fb marketplace to my rescue picked up a new to me LH fender and hood dirt cheap in Saratoga Silver so the truck kinda matches now 50 shades of gray... I'll post some photos can't seem to get my mobile to upload.

what else... what else ah working on A/C I got an extension made hoping to pickup the rest of the supplies this weekend vac the system and charge it up.

I believe next on my list will be the on board air setup (York 210)

I'm still on the fence whether I want to start body work or the air stuff first

paint the truck it'll be pretty or do the air stuff and I'll want semis that I can't afford right now lol.

for sure things i'll start sourcing over winter 14 srw full float 6 22.5 alcoas

BigDooley77 06-17-2019 04:38 PM

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shades

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rear shot ;)


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