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LockDoc 05-29-2014 09:54 PM

Making Keys For The ’60 -‘66 Chevy Trucks
 
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This "How To" is for the guys & gals that have a door handle with a lock for their 1960-1966 Chevy truck but no key. It is pretty straight forward but I have had a couple of people ask me how to get a key cut for them. First thing you have to do is remove the handle assembly from your door (if it isn't already out). (picture 1).... To remove the lock cylinder assembly push down on the top spring cup and remove the snap ring. (picture 2) Then slide the spring assembly out making sure to keep the parts in order. (picture 3) If you will notice the spring cups are different on each end of the spring. After you have the spring assembly out slide the lock cylinder and shaft out. You don't have to worry too much about this as it will only go back in one way…. On the cast piece just below the chrome cap you should find a code number stamped. (picture 4) If your local locksmith can't cut you a key from that code number that will fit the lock I can. It should also fit the ignition lock and glove box lock if none of the locks have been changed or replaced. I can't guarantee there will be a code number on every lock, but if there isn't, the chrome cap can be removed and a key made by "reading" the wafers in the cylinder.

If you have questions PM me.....

LockDoc

Lowl!f3 05-29-2014 10:15 PM

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thank you. wish i seen this before the locksmith destroy my ignition switch and still charged me $90

Softpatch 05-29-2014 10:46 PM

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Lots of good info Thank for that
Soooo.... when you going to show us " How to make a Key".?

Come on
Don't make me beg
i live in an area that does not have a locksmith/shoe repairman or a dry cleaner
or traffic light's
we don't lock our car's or house and when we do the key is
"Under the mat/flower pot or on the visor"

LockDoc 05-29-2014 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lowl!f3 (Post 6698858)
thank you. wish i seen this before the locksmith destroy my ignition switch and still charged me $90

I think that happens a lot. Most of the newer locksmiths don't have a clue how to work on the older stuff....

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Originally Posted by Softpatch (Post 6698898)
Lots of good info Thank for that
Soooo.... when you going to show us " How to make a Key".?

Come on
Don't make me beg
i live in an area that does not have a locksmith/shoe repairman or a dry cleaner
or traffic light's
we don't lock our car's or house and when we do the key is
"Under the mat/flower pot or on the visor"

I don't lock my vehicles either. If I go to the local restaurant or grocery store the key usually stays in the ignition.


Making a key is easy. First you buy an $800 Framon key machine that will cut keys by code, then you buy the $200 Code program to convert the code numbers on the locks to the cuts on the key blank, put the key blank in the machine, adjust the settings for the key you will be cutting and turn the switch on....

That is why I mentioned in my first post "If you can't find anyone in your area to cut a key from the code # or by reading the wafers let me know."...:)

There are probably other people on line that cut keys by code too.

LockDoc

ChiefRocka 05-29-2014 11:17 PM

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It is people like you contributing that make this site that much more awesome !!

Thanks !!

I will need this soon.


So what you are offering, is if our local locksmith is an a$$hat, you can help us out ??

:metal:

LockDoc 05-30-2014 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefRocka (Post 6698950)
It is people like you contributing that make this site that much more awesome !!

Thanks !!

I will need this soon.


So what you are offering, is if our local locksmith is an a$$hat, you can help us out ??

:metal:


Thanks John. Yes, I can cut keys by code, or reading the wafers....

LockDoc

Woogeroo 05-30-2014 04:09 AM

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Thanks LockDoc, this is golden information.

-W

chevy_man5 05-30-2014 09:40 AM

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Kind of related, but you can have a lock redone to match a key too. My son and I took a lock button out of the drivers side of a junkyard truck, and had our local locksmith pull out the wafers and match them to his key. Put the lock button in the passenger door (upside down though), now we can unlock it from both sides.

Took him 5 minutes, and was like $20.

markeb01 05-30-2014 01:29 PM

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Thanks LockDoc for taking the time to photograph and document the process. These tutorials reach a lot of people that may never respond, but benefit from the information.

MikeS. 05-30-2014 01:35 PM

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Thanks man.

Dillon Rock 05-30-2014 02:03 PM

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Very useful. I may look into this in the future.

LockDoc 05-31-2014 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Woogeroo (Post 6699120)
Thanks LockDoc, this is golden information.

-W

Thanks -Woog.

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Originally Posted by chevy_man5 (Post 6699311)
Kind of related, but you can have a lock redone to match a key too. My son and I took a lock button out of the drivers side of a junkyard truck, and had our local locksmith pull out the wafers and match them to his key. Put the lock button in the passenger door (upside down though), now we can unlock it from both sides.

Took him 5 minutes, and was like $20.

I have done quite a few like that. Makes it a lot easier.

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Originally Posted by markeb01 (Post 6699549)
Thanks LockDoc for taking the time to photograph and document the process. These tutorials reach a lot of people that may never respond, but benefit from the information.

No problem, thanks.

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Originally Posted by MikeS. (Post 6699553)
Thanks man.

Glad to be able to do it Mike.

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Originally Posted by Dillon Rock (Post 6699575)
Very useful. I may look into this in the future.

Thanks.

LockDoc

BR3W CITY 05-31-2014 10:36 AM

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Does this is in any way give you the ability to IMPROVE these locks? I mean, right now the ol' screwdriver "master key" works pretty good. Wouldn't mind improving that.

RANDY COX 05-31-2014 06:59 PM

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That's some good info. I guess I got lucky my Key actually locks the doors and the glove box. I have locked it sometimes since I have a lot of tools in the floor board...

LockDoc 05-31-2014 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BR3W CITY (Post 6700519)
Does this is in any way give you the ability to IMPROVE these locks? I mean, right now the ol' screwdriver "master key" works pretty good. Wouldn't mind improving that.


If the locks are old and worn out, replacing the worn out tumblers and springs with new ones and cutting a new key to factory specifications would restore the locks original security.

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Originally Posted by RANDY COX (Post 6700939)
That's some good info. I guess I got lucky my Key actually locks the doors and the glove box. I have locked it sometimes since I have a lot of tools in the floor board...

Thanks Randy. After that many years a person is lucky if all of the locks match on the truck. Usually something has been changed....

LockDoc
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chad64chevy 05-31-2014 08:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by markeb01 (Post 6699549)
Thanks LockDoc for taking the time to photograph and document the process. These tutorials reach a lot of people that may never respond, but benefit from the information.

I agree!!

MikeN 06-02-2014 09:53 AM

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I learned how to make keys and re-code lock cylinders while working the parts counter at a Chevy dealership about 20 years ago. It's not too hard. If you find a dealership that still has an oldtimer behind the counter, there's a little hand-held device that will punch out a new key to match the coding of your lock cylinder. Easy to do and not too expensive.

awbrown 06-02-2014 09:36 PM

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Funny this thread should pop up now.. I had to drive my 63 to work today because the brakes on my 97 were acting up.. Anyways I work in Detroit ,and hate the fact that mine doesn't lock .. I always make sure I have a clear shot from the store to see my truck .... It would sure be nice, then I would have to make my vent windows lock ,..lol

LockDoc 06-10-2014 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by chad64chevy (Post 6701081)
I agree!!

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by MikeN (Post 6702986)
I learned how to make keys and re-code lock cylinders while working the parts counter at a Chevy dealership about 20 years ago. It's not too hard. If you find a dealership that still has an oldtimer behind the counter, there's a little hand-held device that will punch out a new key to match the coding of your lock cylinder. Easy to do and not too expensive.

I have a couple of the Curtis hand held code cutters. One of them came from a closed dealership auction. You have to have the code book that goes with them too.

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Originally Posted by awbrown (Post 6703908)
Funny this thread should pop up now.. I had to drive my 63 to work today because the brakes on my 97 were acting up.. Anyways I work in Detroit ,and hate the fact that mine doesn't lock .. I always make sure I have a clear shot from the store to see my truck .... It would sure be nice, then I would have to make my vent windows lock ,..lol

I would go ahead and have keys made for the door locks, it would be a deterrent because of the time involved if they had to open the vent window and reach in to open the door....

LockDoc

chevy_man5 06-10-2014 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by awbrown (Post 6703908)
Funny this thread should pop up now.. I had to drive my 63 to work today because the brakes on my 97 were acting up.. Anyways I work in Detroit ,and hate the fact that mine doesn't lock .. I always make sure I have a clear shot from the store to see my truck .... It would sure be nice, then I would have to make my vent windows lock ,..lol

LMC has a lock for the vent windows. $9.95 a pair...

http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/cbe/full.aspx?Page=14

oem4me 06-10-2014 04:28 PM

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Question for LockDoc: I've heard rumor that GM had far fewer codes for keys than one might expect. Say, like a couple hundred different keys TOTAL, for ALL makes and models. Thousands and thousands of vehicles built every year, and not anywhere near the same number when talking key differentiation.
Is this true? Can you tell by your key code book how many actual separate codes existed for our vehicles of that era?

LockDoc 06-10-2014 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by oem4me (Post 6714756)
Question for LockDoc: I've heard rumor that GM had far fewer codes for keys than one might expect. Say, like a couple hundred different keys TOTAL, for ALL makes and models. Thousands and thousands of vehicles built every year, and not anywhere near the same number when talking key differentiation.
Is this true? Can you tell by your key code book how many actual separate codes existed for our vehicles of that era?


For all GM vehicles from 1935 through 1966 there were 1499 different keys. For 1967 up there were about the same except that there were 4 different ignition keyways ("A", "C", "E", & "J") which effectively gave 5996 different keys for the ignitions.

LockDoc

oem4me 06-11-2014 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by LockDoc (Post 6715326)
For all GM vehicles from 1935 through 1966 there were 1499 different keys. For 1967 up there were about the same except that there were 4 different ignition keyways ("A", "C", "E", & "J") which effectively gave 5996 different keys for the ignitions.

LockDoc

Well imagine that ...an actual answer to something I've wondered about for many years. Very cool. Thanks!

MikeN 06-11-2014 09:46 AM

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My uncle started going through all the keys he has saved from the Chevy's he has owned over the years, and trying them in the ignition of my 64 C10. I thought he was crazy. Sure enough, the somewhat larger square-headed key from a 76 Impala he used to own fits perfectly in my ignition, and starts the truck easily.

bhc41051 06-11-2014 04:33 PM

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Sometime you're lucky and the key code is on the key.

blackbart63mule 09-19-2015 02:43 AM

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Thanks for info about the #'s stamped into the lock cylinder. LocDoc, are there different pins or wafers for the door cylinders that are more pick proof? I seem to remember reading in a locksmithing book about it. How hard would it be to key 3 lock cylinders alike for our panels or suburbans? Thx.......Dog

LockDoc 11-13-2015 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by blackbart63mule (Post 7313484)
Thanks for info about the #'s stamped into the lock cylinder. LocDoc, are there different pins or wafers for the door cylinders that are more pick proof? I seem to remember reading in a locksmithing book about it. How hard would it be to key 3 lock cylinders alike for our panels or suburbans? Thx.......Dog


GM has used the Briggs & Stratton side bar lock since 1935 and because of it's design it is almost impossible to pick.

It's pretty easy to key the lock cylinders the same on the '60-'66 GM trucks.

LockDoc

blackbart63mule 11-22-2015 12:00 AM

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Thanks again for the info Lock Doc!

65chevysub 11-22-2015 10:44 AM

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If you can, whats the cost of re-keying a Suburban tailgate lock to match the front doors? I replaced my tailgate lock on my 65 about a year ago with a new lock, but have a seperate key for it. It's a Briggs key. I'm trying to get down to just a few keys on my ring.
Thanks

LockDoc 12-14-2015 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 65chevysub (Post 7384613)
If you can, whats the cost of re-keying a Suburban tailgate lock to match the front doors? I replaced my tailgate lock on my 65 about a year ago with a new lock, but have a seperate key for it. It's a Briggs key. I'm trying to get down to just a few keys on my ring.
Thanks

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It would run about 10 bucks plus shipping back to you.

LockDoc

Jacobmaynard97 12-19-2015 06:34 PM

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Could I get the code off my original ignition cylinder and have a key made, my 62 didn't have a key with it when I bought it, and I bought a new cylinder but I'd like to keep the original in it

65chevysub 12-20-2015 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by LockDoc (Post 7409476)
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It would run about 10 bucks plus shipping back to you.

LockDoc

Thanks LockDoc
I'll try to get my back door and 2 front door locks to you after the first of the year when everything settles down after the holidays. I need the fronts re-done as I'm still using the ORIGINAL key and it's pretty well worn.

Joemomma1 12-20-2015 05:14 PM

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So do you match locks with keys? Over time I've managed to get everything mixed and would like it all to work with 1 key again.

DakotaKid 03-15-2019 06:50 PM

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is there a way to make the Door key match the Ignition Key?

LockDoc 03-25-2019 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DakotaKid (Post 8487762)
is there a way to make the Door key match the Ignition Key?


Yes, either the door lock/locks can be re-keyed or the ignition lock can be re-keyed to match the other.

LockDoc

cff 04-18-2019 08:18 AM

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Hi LockDoc. What do you need to rekey the ignition and door lock to match?

Johns 66 04-18-2019 09:15 PM

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Wanted to post in this thread....Mr Leon rebuilt my door locks and re-keyed a glove box lock for me. He also cut me 2 keys from original blanks. If you are considering having this done I would highly suggest using Mr, Leon.....He did an awesome job for me, quickly and everything works perfectly. I really appreciate it a lot Mr Leon.
John

LockDoc 04-20-2019 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cff (Post 8509342)
Hi LockDoc. What do you need to rekey the ignition and door lock to match?

Do you have a key for either of the locks? If you have a key for one of them all I would need is the key and the lock that needs to be changed. To re-key one lock would be $12.50US + postage back to you. Postage is higher to Canada from the US.

Thanks,
LockDoc

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Originally Posted by Johns 66 (Post 8509767)
Wanted to post in this thread....Mr Leon rebuilt my door locks and re-keyed a glove box lock for me. He also cut me 2 keys from original blanks. If you are considering having this done I would highly suggest using Mr, Leon.....He did an awesome job for me, quickly and everything works perfectly. I really appreciate it a lot Mr Leon.
John

Thanks for the kind words John. Glad you were happy with the locks and my work.

oliver63 05-05-2019 09:15 PM

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I have a '63 C10...the door and glove compartment are one key and the ignition is a separate key. Was my truck a one key or two key originally?

LockDoc 05-07-2019 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by oliver63 (Post 8520108)
I have a '63 C10...the door and glove compartment are one key and the ignition is a separate key. Was my truck a one key or two key originally?

One key would have fit all of the locks from the factory. I'm betting someone changed the ignition cylinder. I can re-key the ignition to match the door and glove box if you ever decide to go that way.

LockDoc


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