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Nobighurry 05-20-2019 12:29 PM

Why's it called a 2 ton???
 
So my 1970 C60 has a 2 ton designation - but why? The doggone thing ways 10k pounds and payload is 14000. So where does the 2 ton come from? How much the tire weighs??? HAHA

rpmerf 05-20-2019 01:00 PM

Re: Why's it called a 2 ton???
 
14K - 10K = 4k = 2 tons. 14K is the total weight of vehicle and payload

C10 - C90 Bill 05-20-2019 02:24 PM

Re: Why's it called a 2 ton???
 
Actually, I believe his GVW is 24,000.

But good question, I've always wondered that myself.

Even a 1-Ton. My old '64 C-30 weighed 5,000 and carried 5,000.

Nothing 1-Ton about it, lol.

Nobighurry 05-20-2019 07:20 PM

Re: Why's it called a 2 ton???
 
You are correct my Va based friend. My gvw is 24000. Kinda goofy telling people I have a 2 ton truck but I have no idea why it is called that. I just change the subject.

C10 - C90 Bill 05-20-2019 08:25 PM

Re: Why's it called a 2 ton???
 
Even my 9500. I would not refer to it as a 3-Ton, I would just say Tandem or sometimes Twin Screw Tandem.

But for some reason, 1-Ton and 2-Ton names stuck.

1976gmc20 05-20-2019 09:53 PM

Re: Why's it called a 2 ton???
 
Well, it probably started out that way, then as years went by the empty weight and load capacity increased but the nomenclature stayed the same:

C-10 "half ton"
C-20 "three quarter ton"
C-30 "one ton"
C-40 "ton and a half"
C-50 "two ton"
C-60 "two and a half ton"
etc etc etc

My old C-50 GVW was 16K# but I think it only weighed about 6K# cab and chassis. Geez, half ton pickups weigh about that much these days.

In those days, there was no GCVW so I could safely ignore that ;)

Killer Bee 05-20-2019 11:29 PM

Re: Why's it called a 2 ton???
 
I get asked this question a lot, here ya go :)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_classification

C10 - C90 Bill 05-21-2019 12:26 AM

Re: Why's it called a 2 ton???
 
Interesting link.

Ton Rating well explained.

Thanks for posting it.

special-K 05-21-2019 09:25 PM

Re: Why's it called a 2 ton???
 
Why do they call it a 2 x 4 when they measure 1 1/2" x 3 1/2"?

It's just a nominal term for identification purposes. It's not the payload, but it's simpler to say. Plus, within the same series the payload can differ. Even a 1/2t pickup has different GVWs by engine. I had a SRW K3500 regular cab w/bucket seats with a 9,200 GVW. DRW would have given it 10,000 GVW. That's an 800# difference. How much more weight do you think DRWs, crew cab, carrying 2-4 more men would add? Mine would have more payload. Even GVW is relevant.

Gokart Mozart 05-30-2019 09:29 PM

Re: Why's it called a 2 ton???
 
So my 72 C50 is considered a class 7 because it has a 31,000 lb rating, 8,000 front springs and 23,000 rear?

Nobighurry 05-30-2019 10:09 PM

Re: Why's it called a 2 ton???
 
My c60 have 24k rears and 9k fronts. My gvw is 24k which is what the dot is going to hold me to. I'd never try to go over the 24k.

C10 - C90 Bill 05-30-2019 11:57 PM

Re: Why's it called a 2 ton???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gokart Mozart (Post 8534276)
So my 72 C50 is considered a class 7 because it has a 31,000 lb rating, 8,000 front springs and 23,000 rear?

If your truck was factory built that way, it should have been a C-60. I never heard of a C-50 with that much GVW.

Airdirect 05-31-2019 03:09 AM

Re: Why's it called a 2 ton???
 
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My C70 has a GVW of 25,160, 9000 front, 16,160 rear. The rear axle is a Eaton 17201 which is capable of 23,000 lbs.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=721374

jerry.t 05-31-2019 06:44 PM

Re: Why's it called a 2 ton???
 
kinda on the same subject, why are there wide fender c50's, and narrow fender c60's ? seems like a 60 has a higher GVW than a 50. which is why the wider fenders and axles are used. but i am seeing them in either option

Gokart Mozart 05-31-2019 06:45 PM

Re: Why's it called a 2 ton???
 
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Originally Posted by C10 - C90 Bill (Post 8534350)
If your truck was factory built that way, it should have been a C-60. I never heard of a C-50 with that much GVW.

I was told it was a 50. could be a 60. what do you think?

Nobighurry 05-31-2019 06:55 PM

Re: Why's it called a 2 ton???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gokart Mozart (Post 8534771)
I was told it was a 50. could be a 60. what do you think?

It's a c50. First number in serial number designates the size.

C10 - C90 Bill 05-31-2019 06:56 PM

Re: Why's it called a 2 ton???
 
It looks like you do have a C-50, but to go in deeper detail, it seems like you have a 5000 Lb Front Axle (F-050) with 8000 Lb Springs on it. What does your GVW Plate state?

Nobighurry 05-31-2019 06:57 PM

Re: Why's it called a 2 ton???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gokart Mozart (Post 8534771)
I was told it was a 50. could be a 60. what do you think?

You should have a metal plate on drivers side door jam that designates the gvw.

C10 - C90 Bill 05-31-2019 06:59 PM

Re: Why's it called a 2 ton???
 
Nobighurry, looks like we are both posting at the same time, lol. One minute apart on the last 3.

Nobighurry 05-31-2019 07:04 PM

Re: Why's it called a 2 ton???
 
Yet again, great minds think alike. :)

Gokart Mozart 05-31-2019 07:16 PM

Re: Why's it called a 2 ton???
 
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Ok. Guess it's "only" 24,000 gvwr.

Nobighurry 05-31-2019 07:23 PM

Re: Why's it called a 2 ton???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gokart Mozart (Post 8534794)
Ok. Guess it's "only" 24,000 gvwr.

Yep. I work my truck and 24k gvw is plenty. I wouldn't want any more with the old style single stage master cylinder. Braking is important.

Gokart Mozart 05-31-2019 07:37 PM

Re: Why's it called a 2 ton???
 
Working on lowering weight capacity and increasing stopping capability.

C10 - C90 Bill 05-31-2019 07:55 PM

Re: Why's it called a 2 ton???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gokart Mozart (Post 8534794)
Ok. Guess it's "only" 24,000 gvwr.

Even that is pretty heavy for a C-50. I believe most C-50's have a GVW of 19,500.

Nobighurry 05-31-2019 08:00 PM

Re: Why's it called a 2 ton???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by C10 - C90 Bill (Post 8534821)
Even that is pretty heavy for a C-50. I believe most C-50's have a GVW of 19,500.

I agree. It looks like it has the heavy 10 lug wheels.


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