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Expalo 03-07-2019 03:51 PM

1970 c10 350 dies as soon as i hit 40 mph
 
Ok so i just bought this truck. The vin states its a chevy c10 3/4 ton chassis. But it is the full time 4wd. It just had a transmission rebuilt before i bought it. It has the chevy 350 with a th350 behind it. I have replaced fuel filter and spark plugs (they were fouled pretty badly). I also timed the engine to a 10* advance. I was gonna rebuild the carb but i broke one of the carb mounting bolts and didnt want to risk breaking the others until i knew i could replace the whole intake and carb if i broke them all. It has brand new battery and cables as well. What is going on is at first before timing it and replacing spark plugs it would run at idle and low speeds just fine but then i would hit 25 mph and it would bog down and die. I timed it and replaced spark plugs and now i can go all the way to 40 and it just bogs down and dies. Its as if The fuel just stops sending to the carb. I dont have much experience with carbed engines and just want some more experinced opinions on what is going on.
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Wrenchbender Ret 03-07-2019 04:58 PM

Re: 1970 c10 350 dies as soon as i hit 40 mph
 
Sounds like the sock on the fuel pickup in the tank is plugged up. You say you replaced the filter in the carb. Sometimes someone puts an inline filter in the line from the tank to the pump. Check to see if there might be an aux. filter underneath.
George

Expalo 03-07-2019 05:41 PM

I actually replaced the inline fileter there was no filter in the carb. And i dont think it is the stock carb either i dont know if that makes a difference, it is still a 2bbl carb.
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Expalo 03-07-2019 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Wrenchbender Ret (Post 8482032)
Sounds like the sock on the fuel pickup in the tank is plugged up. You say you replaced the filter in the carb. Sometimes someone puts an inline filter in the line from the tank to the pump. Check to see if there might be an aux. filter underneath.
George

Do i have to pull the fuel tank to clean sock on the fuel pickup?
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geezer#99 03-07-2019 06:20 PM

Re: 1970 c10 350 dies as soon as i hit 40 mph
 
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Originally Posted by Expalo (Post 8482066)
Do i have to pull the fuel tank to clean sock on the fuel pickup?
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No!
But do some other things first.
Disable the ignition so it won’t start when you crank it over.
Pull the fuel line off the carb, stick it in a quart jar and crank it over. It should fill the jar in 30 seconds or less.
Let us know how that works.

Also post some pics of your motor for us.

garyd1961 03-07-2019 09:24 PM

Re: 1970 c10 350 dies as soon as i hit 40 mph
 
Could be a crack in your fuel line sucking air. I had it happen to me once on a 69 442. It would run fine at low speeds but if I brought it off the line it would go 3 or 4 car lengths and cut out.

Steeveedee 03-07-2019 11:47 PM

Re: 1970 c10 350 dies as soon as i hit 40 mph
 
What carburetor, and what ignition (stock points or HEI)? There are many things that can cause this. Let's just say you creep up on 40 MPH. Does it still happen, as opposed to a full throttle run up to 40 MPH?

Expalo 03-08-2019 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by geezer#99 (Post 8482092)
No!
But do some other things first.
Disable the ignition so it won’t start when you crank it over.
Pull the fuel line off the carb, stick it in a quart jar and crank it over. It should fill the jar in 30 seconds or less.
Let us know how that works.

Also post some pics of your motor for us.

What is the best way to disable the ingnition?
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Expalo 03-08-2019 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by garyd1961 (Post 8482209)
Could be a crack in your fuel line sucking air. I had it happen to me once on a 69 442. It would run fine at low speeds but if I brought it off the line it would go 3 or 4 car lengths and cut out.

I was thinking about replacing the fuel lines anyway so maybe i will just replace them and not worry about looking for a crack.
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Expalo 03-08-2019 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Steeveedee (Post 8482325)
What carburetor, and what ignition (stock points or HEI)? There are many things that can cause this. Let's just say you creep up on 40 MPH. Does it still happen, as opposed to a full throttle run up to 40 MPH?

Im pretty sure its a rochester 2bbl carb. And i think it does have the hei distributor. Yes if i creep up to 40 it still dies vs doing a full throttle pass. No matter how i feather the gas as soon as i hit 40 it basically shuts off. Sometime when i lef off the gas for a couple seconds and then tap the gas a couple times the engine comes back to life but runs rough for a little.
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geezer#99 03-08-2019 10:57 AM

Re: 1970 c10 350 dies as soon as i hit 40 mph
 
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Originally Posted by Expalo (Post 8482531)
What is the best way to disable the ingnition?
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Depends on your distributor type.
Points type just pop the coil wire off.
If hei unplug the power clip from the cap.

Pics of what you got would help.

Expalo 03-08-2019 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by geezer#99 (Post 8482537)
Depends on your distributor type.
Points type just pop the coil wire off.
If hei unplug the power clip from the cap.

Pics of what you got would help.

I can get pictures tomorrow.
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Expalo 03-10-2019 04:31 PM

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Ok here are some pictures of the distributor or carb. Sorry it took so long just got busy and forgot. I drove it around town today and it runs amazing as long as im going Under 40mph.
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truckster 03-10-2019 04:45 PM

Re: 1970 c10 350 dies as soon as i hit 40 mph
 
You have HEI. To disable it, just unplug the terminal marked BAT.

68Gold/white 03-10-2019 04:59 PM

Re: 1970 c10 350 dies as soon as i hit 40 mph
 
That carb looks like it may not have ever been off engine, or apart. Could be part of problem...If it's had any ethanol gas run through it, that could be a problem...

Expalo 03-10-2019 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by truckster (Post 8484172)
You have HEI. To disable it, just unplug the terminal marked BAT.

Ok cool thank you.
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Expalo 03-10-2019 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 68Gold/white (Post 8484184)
That carb looks like it may not have ever been off engine, or apart. Could be part of problem...If it's had any ethanol gas run through it, that could be a problem...

I have a buddy who took a quadrojet off of his old 350 he has the carb and intake he will sell me for 50$. Is that worth is to buy that and put it on vs trying to rebuild the one thats on it?
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geezer#99 03-10-2019 05:50 PM

Re: 1970 c10 350 dies as soon as i hit 40 mph
 
That might be a choice after we diagnose your problem better.
Give us some more pics. With the air cleaner off. Show us both sides of your carb. And the bolt you mentioned is broken.

hjewell2 03-10-2019 06:34 PM

Re: 1970 c10 350 dies as soon as i hit 40 mph
 
weights are stuck under the rotor and causing the motor to die out, .

Expalo 03-12-2019 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by geezer#99 (Post 8484232)
That might be a choice after we diagnose your problem better.
Give us some more pics. With the air cleaner off. Show us both sides of your carb. And the bolt you mentioned is broken.

Ok got some more pictures. Ill be working on it today and tomorrow as this is my weekend. After that one bolt broke i did not try and take any of the others out. Would it help if i got a video of what was happening as it dies?
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geezer#99 03-12-2019 02:11 PM

Re: 1970 c10 350 dies as soon as i hit 40 mph
 
That missing bolt shouldn’t be a problem. There were 4 on your carb. Originally on older intakes there were only 2 bolts holding the carb on.
Sure a video won’t hurt.
Your pics don’t help much.
Try some that aren’t closeups.

Expalo 03-12-2019 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by geezer#99 (Post 8485580)
That missing bolt shouldn’t be a problem. There were 4 on your carb. Originally on older intakes there were only 2 bolts holding the carb on.
Sure a video won’t hurt.
Your pics don’t help much.
Try some that aren’t closeups.

Ok hopefully these are better
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palallin 03-12-2019 05:48 PM

Re: 1970 c10 350 dies as soon as i hit 40 mph
 
Carb swallowed some of that orange goo holding the jury-rigged air cleaner hold-down?

geezer#99 03-12-2019 06:07 PM

Re: 1970 c10 350 dies as soon as i hit 40 mph
 
Much better pics!
Some very laughable stuff you got.
Carb linkage and cobbled air cleaner stud to name a couple.
First thing I’d do is put in more timing. Bump it up to 15 initial.
If that doesn’t improve it then check the fuel pump output.

Grumpy old man 03-12-2019 06:14 PM

Re: 1970 c10 350 dies as soon as i hit 40 mph
 
A can of carb cleaner would probably help a lot , Plugs ,wires,etc, . Join one of the local car clubs in your area .They could help you out with the hands on stuff . :chevy:


Here are a few .

https://www.google.com/search?q=+Gra...firefox-b-1-ab


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