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bobcostas 02-12-2011 02:30 PM

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Hey dudes,

What do y'all think of faux-tina paint jobs on our trucks?
I know they are generally loved or hated among enthusiasts (I tend to fall on the love it side)

My '66 has a crap paint job. The PO painted it about ten years ago, did a crummy job and the clear is starting to flake off. There are plenty of dings and dents that make a nice paint job look terrible, and would cost me way more than i can afford to remove. And hell, I like the character. I like that my truck looks like it was used as a truck. Its not nice enough for a $5k paint job. I could put that money into handling improvements like a good front end.

At any rate, I was watching Trucks! on TV and saw their faux paint and thought "I could do that in a weekend with a buddy!"

So my question is:
Should i faux my truck because its not good enough for a nice paint job or leave it the F alone?

~BC

jocko 02-12-2011 02:48 PM

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go faux it.

i'll admit, i prefer real patina because it looks so cool, BUT, your case is a good candidate for a shop truck approach (in my pea brain). And in that case, faux tina is cool. I gotta say though, I am NOT a big fan of how the Trucks guys did their 48 chev (or whatever year it was). Even faux tina should at least look like some tina... Theirs looks like multi coats of paont that were sanded through. Sometimes I look at it and think, kinda cool - other times, bleccchh. And I LOVE the trucks they build and I do LOVE that truck too, just not the paint (or the copper grille they just did - but I need to see how it fades quickly, maybe I'll change my tune).

Bottom line - i think faux is ok/cool if done well. I think doing it WELL is probably as hard as a real paint job. But it's cheap to experiment with and you can always just start over. So, in that respect, I'm a big fan of faux.

Can't wait to see pics. In fact, what your truck looks like now would probably help us say whether or not to go faux it for real...

This is a good idea for a "post your faux" thread...

protrash64 02-12-2011 03:50 PM

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I agree with jockos comments; go for it. I would put time into looking at real patina on our trucks to get it right. Faux patina can be overdone and done wrong. I've seen some trucks that look like they would have had to been laying on their side for 40 years to look like the finished product:lol:.

I would also suggest, if you are going to go for it, just to start with wetsanding the paint you already have just to see whats under it. Start slowly with a 400g(?) and see what happens. Most of these trucks have been painted at least once in their past.

Good luck, and have fun.

bobcostas 02-12-2011 04:13 PM

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This is my truck as of today. The PO did a good job at sanding unevenly. The result is odd rough spots. He also repaired some sheetmetal in the cab like a true amateur. So the pipe dream of show truck is out the window (not that it would have ever happened, haha)

Its also chopped down (it was a long bed).


http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/s...2/IMG_0975.jpg


http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/s...2/IMG_0977.jpg


http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/s...2/IMG_0983.jpg

So i was thinking a faux job might look okay, if I took my time and did it right. Do any of Y'all have tips?
How would it look to take it down to the sheet metal in places and do a diesel oil finish? I'm just rattling off ideas here.

Thanks dudes.

jimmydean 02-12-2011 04:22 PM

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Check out the Trucks! website, they did a video that is pretty extensive.

http://www.spike.com/full-episode/cl...t-5-faux/36170

jocko 02-12-2011 04:44 PM

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bob, i think your truck looks pretty darn good! Anyhoo, straight sheetmetal is also important for a faux job, but I see what your getting at - you may be able to camo some of the waves or olde rblemishes and with a faux tina job. I think Pro trash might be on to something though - I think you've got the start of a good patina already, even though you are showing multi blue coats. With some careful sanding, you may not even need to paint!

lakeroadster 02-12-2011 07:20 PM

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I too am planning to try my hand at the faux patina paint.

The best patina'd trucks I have seen are on trucks with light colored paint top coats. This allows the black and/or red-oxide primer to show up better.

Here are some examples of patina, some real - some faux, and what I mean about the lighter top coats.

Also notice that the real ones almost always have black primer on the dog house, and red oxide on the cab and bed.

awbrown 02-12-2011 07:55 PM

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Why is it that 25 years ago all my vehicles looked like that and everyone thought they were junk .. I think I invented the rat rod look ... Did I get any recognition .. NO ... now if I had just one of them I could finally be cool....:lol:

tenni126 02-12-2011 08:08 PM

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I loved the way my truck looked before I got a round to the body work, but the rust wasn't doing her any favors. I figured I needed to fix it before it got too far gone. The best part was the rubbed-thru paint on the window sills from 50 years of hanging arms out the window.

Leadfoot Lambert 02-12-2011 08:14 PM

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I hate Patina for a couple reasons,
1. It's the first stage of rust, and I hate rust!
2. Rust is all we have in Maine

I need 65 c10 body panels! [because mine rusted out]

Malibob 02-12-2011 08:23 PM

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I call it paintina. I did it on mine because the real patina on the truck was turning. I did not want it getting bad so primed it then tanned it and then rubbed it through. I use this truck on a daily basis when there aint salt on the ground so I dont need something shiny to scuff up. It works great for me. To hell with the ney sayers. Do what you like.

mano 02-12-2011 08:34 PM

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Id say patina that thing. I have had so much fun with my patina trucks. They look cool and there fun to drive. You dont have to worry as much when you park them some where. I always had more fun with my cars before I painted them.

**grumpy** 02-12-2011 09:21 PM

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I choose real or self made "weathered" paint over shiney. By choice.
As Mano n Malibob said, its so much more fun to not worry about scratches and dings.

I enjoy my beatup old trucks!!

mano 02-12-2011 09:30 PM

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Me & Grumpy both enjoyed this 1! To this day It was the best money I every spent.

jimmydean 02-12-2011 09:32 PM

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I was going to paint mine (last thing I do) but I think I will give it a good once over to get all the sheet metal straight, then enhance the patina that is already there.

SRVBLUES64 02-13-2011 01:37 AM

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should I change this color or rub it out more Im putting billets rallies on also

CHIZZLER 02-13-2011 02:01 AM

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I like it.

CHIZZLER 02-13-2011 02:04 AM

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Heres with the dodge 20" steelies.

Miller92 02-13-2011 03:42 AM

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Gorgeous truck Chizzler!

mano 02-13-2011 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CHIZZLER (Post 4482314)
Heres with the dodge 20" steelies.

Hey Chizzler is that a 70 chevelle in the gargare.

Malibob 02-13-2011 09:46 AM

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Chizzler, I love that paint on your truck. Friggin Awesome man, you got a build thread or can you tell us how you did it?
Srvblue64- I think your patina looks awesome too. Maybe once you get it all together buff it a little and see where it goes. If it looks good then keep going on it, if not leave it, it looks super cool.

Malibob 02-13-2011 10:08 AM

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Oh and since my album was deleted on here for some reason, here are a few shots of my truck... Some say I ruined it but I like it and I pay the bills

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5220/...e307ca92_z.jpg
DSC_1163 by Malibob, on Flickr

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4146/...e4077430_z.jpg
DSC_1162 by Malibob, on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5055/...02ecd908_z.jpg
DSC_1161(2)[1] by Malibob, on Flickr

bobcostas 02-13-2011 11:47 AM

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Thanks guys!
Many of your "paintina" or "faux-tina" jobs look great!

I have heard "the more layers the more better" from people. i wonder if you added another layer or two the to paint they did on Trucks! how it would improve (or detract) from the realistic-ness?

What colors might you, or did you choose?

i see (in order of painting): black, oxide primer and the top color on many. What if you sandwiched another light then dark in there as well? (thats a lot of paint, haha)

bobcostas 02-13-2011 11:49 AM

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...and Malibib, I've admired your truck for a while now. It looks most excellent. great color.

Malibob 02-13-2011 11:49 AM

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Look for Doogie's truck, he seems to have a lot of colors on his. I like it.

bobcostas 02-13-2011 02:25 PM

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Hey Malibob
Can you post a closeup of your white roof? i was curious as to what the two tone would look like roughed up.

Jocko, i am definitely going to check out whats underneath my paint first. Thats a great idea.

and does anyone know a trick to painting the dash with the glass still in. it seems like an area prone to error.

thanks dudes. I'm getting a little ramped up about this.

Chapstr's65 02-13-2011 03:54 PM

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I have thought about doing ot to mine. I know there is two other colors under the Orange. This way I van still drive it while I do the body work. I just hatethe down time because it is a running truck and I am going to tear it a part to change out the drums to disc all around and tear the body about to do the body work and paint the frame.
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lakeroadster 02-13-2011 04:11 PM

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Here is a photo of a red and a blue truck, with light colors underneath. They looks ok, but just don't look "quite right"..IMO. The factory didn't use light colored primers on these trucks.

rustycarr 02-13-2011 07:14 PM

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sun baked!! first time this truck has been under a roof in its life..

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...iv/pepaw65.jpg

scrapmetalart 02-13-2011 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by lakeroadster (Post 4483329)
Here is a photo of a red and a blue truck, with light colors underneath. They looks ok, but just don't look "quite right"..IMO. The factory didn't use light colored primers on these trucks.

looks like a cheap repaint in red years ago that is fading off to see the original paint underneath, not primer...

BarnFind 02-13-2011 07:37 PM

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Chizzler, that truck looks great !! I was able to find a longbed that had original patina. I put it on a shortbed chassis and painted the bed to match. Used the original tailgate, wheel tubes, and header board. Sean
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/h...jects022-1.jpg

CHIZZLER 02-13-2011 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by miller92 (Post 4482430)
gorgeous truck chizzler!

thanks
Quote:

Originally Posted by mano (Post 4482545)
hey chizzler is that a 70 chevelle in the gargare.

70 chevell 383 stroker
Quote:

Originally Posted by malibob (Post 4482607)
chizzler, i love that paint on your truck. Friggin awesome man, you got a build thread or can you tell us how you did it?
Srvblue64- i think your patina looks awesome too. Maybe once you get it all together buff it a little and see where it goes. If it looks good then keep going on it, if not leave it, it looks super cool.

no build thread.i followed the trucks episode.
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Originally Posted by barnfind (Post 4483707)
chizzler, that truck looks great !! I was able to find a longbed that had original patina. I put it on a shortbed chassis and painted the bed to match. Used the original tailgate, wheel tubes, and header board. Sean
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/h...jects022-1.jpg

looks killer

CHIZZLER 02-13-2011 08:56 PM

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Not much to it.we started by sanding with 320.didnt even blow it off after.then the first coat was black put on with a brush.(yes a home depot paint brush).second coat we mixed orange and black to make brown.we put it on with a roller (yes a home depot roller).we put too coats.second coat was mainly on the hood and roof and bed rails.(nice and thick) third coat we sprayed the blue with a harbor freight gun.fourth coat we used white header spray paint and sprayed it from far back just misting it.after it was dry we started wet sanding with 1000 grit for a long time.you need to take your time and only break through the layers that you want.if you push to hard you will find bare metal.the slower you go the more first layer (black) you can find.after your happy with it you take some red scotch brite pads and hit the whole thing.this will take the sheen from the wet sanding away.hope this helps.we used duplicolor from napa.

lakeroadster 02-13-2011 09:20 PM

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Hey Chizzler, thanks for the "how to" data on your patina job. Your truck looks great! :metal:

John

Malibob 02-13-2011 09:38 PM

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Diggin it chiz

rideblue00 02-13-2011 09:45 PM

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This was on ebay like 5 years ago. This is what i would like mine to look like. But would be very time consuming to create. Like 45 years! lol

CHIZZLER 02-13-2011 10:02 PM

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killer original patina.

admiral grey bush 02-14-2011 09:11 AM

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Mine an my buddies 65/66. One pic i buffed the 66

skysoldier173rd 02-14-2011 09:21 AM

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This is mine, courtesy of previous owner.

Malibob 02-14-2011 09:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobcostas (Post 4483142)
Hey Malibob
Can you post a closeup of your white roof? i was curious as to what the two tone would look like roughed up.

I dont have any close ups of the white roof on mine. I will be honest though. I plan on re-doing mine in gloss and rubbing it through- think I will like it a little better.


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