The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network (https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/index.php)
-   Projects and Builds (https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/forumdisplay.php?f=205)
-   -   57 Panel "FAKMLC" build (https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=721845)

yossarian19 07-16-2018 10:10 PM

Re: 57 Panel "FAKMLC" build
 
WAY cool to see all the progress. Keep it up! Looks good!
And where did you find a lady who wants to work on old cars?

FAKKY 07-17-2018 09:04 AM

Re: 57 Panel "FAKMLC" build
 
SLLOOOOOWWWW - so much more to this hotrod restomod than I thought :) Good news is Im learning a lot and enjoying it (mostly)

Thw wife - yeah shes a keeper ....... she loves puzzles (I cant think of anything worse) .... so wiring and chasing them down through a harness to depin seemed like a big old puzzle that would suit her skills- shes also good about getting off her butt and just doing it wheres I have read 10 different things on it before I want to tackle it - keeps me within the rails mostly !! ha !

Nut Case 07-18-2018 03:59 AM

Re: 57 Panel "FAKMLC" build
 
Does your wife have a sister?

Your are one lucky duck, a lady that will join you on working on your truck.

NC

FAKKY 07-18-2018 11:17 AM

Re: 57 Panel "FAKMLC" build
 
:) ^^ yes she does :)

So ....... notice in a few threads and this webiste https://www.lsenginediy.com
they recommend putting engine and and mounting first then dealing with trans ..... any reason asides its heavy with trans?

I think I would be too worried about trans fitment after not clearing something or being off on driveline angle
Plus easier to put all in together (I would think) than installing from ground POST.

FAKKY 08-26-2018 03:14 PM

Re: 57 Panel "FAKMLC" build
 
Getting ready to pain the floor boards and the inside pan.
Forgot I haddent dealt with the rivet holes from taking out the foot pedal.

https://i.imgur.com/IbyTgXbl.jpg

I looked at the top. 5 rivets - but it also ties into the windscreen itself - worried

a) Take some effort unless I pull out the grinder to drill them all out.
b) Opening up a bigger can of worms.

BUt the holes DO need to be dealt with ....... "JB Weld " ? From the underside ?
If I try and weld them from below pretty sure it it just blow through without some copper backplate which I cant do without the top off.


thoughts ?

FAKKY 08-26-2018 04:31 PM

Re: 57 Panel "FAKMLC" build
 
Think Im going to go to store and get 2ft copper pipe.
Flatten it and make a small "L" at end.

that way I can feed through the air slits and provide a backing whilst welding from underside.
Might work.

Else JB weld. And deal with it if/when it becomes an issue.

Black_Sheep 08-27-2018 11:18 PM

Re: 57 Panel "FAKMLC" build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FAKKY (Post 8330796)
Think Im going to go to store and get 2ft copper pipe.
Flatten it and make a small "L" ay end.

that wauy I can feed through the air slits and provide a backing whilst welding from underside.
Might work.

Else JB weld. And deal with it if/when it becomes an issue.

The copper pipe trick works good. Eastwood makes a copper backer with a magnetic base for those hard to reach areas. It wouldn't take much to duplicate it if you are so inclined.

FAKKY 08-28-2018 09:02 AM

Re: 57 Panel "FAKMLC" build
 
Thanks. The copper pipe flattened out worked a treat. Threaded it down and covered the hole and welded from underside.
I'll get some POR15 on both sides to help seal any pinholes if they exist (didnt see any with flashlight) and just general protection from rust ......

FAKKY 09-29-2018 02:32 PM

Re: 57 Panel "FAKMLC" build
 
Trying to get back on this old horse .................... so hard to keep motivated even with the end in sight.

OIL PAN SWAP.

Source => EBAY [AUTO-CUSTARDS] $230
OIL PAN-12628771

OIL PICKUP TUBE-12558251

DEFLECTOR,ENGINE-12558253

OIL DIPSTICK TUBE-12551577

FAKKY 09-29-2018 02:34 PM

Re: 57 Panel "FAKMLC" build
 
https://i.imgur.com/DJMD9Fll.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/BqkhVTRl.jpg

FAKKY 09-29-2018 04:19 PM

Re: 57 Panel "FAKMLC" build
 
https://i.imgur.com/BStJID8m.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Ep1dQpwm.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/dp3VdTMm.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/6UynACWm.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/dG1mbfLm.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/6UynACWh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/dG1mbfLh.jpg

Engine sat for a while at a shop. Never been inside an engine from either topside or bottomside. Engine had approx 90k miles.

Rod and main Crank bearings had 0 play ... couldnt get them to move... tight
Crosshatching still there on cylinder walls looking via inspection camera from top. Looks good from backside also in pics above.
Inspected before from topside with inspection camera and could see crosshatching and all looked good no visible damage to pistons.


So ...... only issue is the coloration. I think its a mix of small amount of heat as well as oil from being sat in shop. I dont see any major issues ...... especially with;

Crosshatching good
Leakdown test good
Cylinders clean
No play in journal bearings.
rotates fine.

So think it looks ok. Thoughts ? from more experienced eyes.

Does someone have the torque specs an reassembly procedure for the new oi pan and pickup tube. --> NM found them -- see the broken bolt below

Think you have to do in certain order due to the pickup orientation.
Also ... plan to just use razorblad and some mineral spirits on the pan surface to block where old gasket is.
New pan might give a quick light blast of brake cleaner.

FAKKY 09-30-2018 01:16 PM

Re: 57 Panel "FAKMLC" build
 
Well busted a bolt off in the oil pump .........

tried a left hand bit from HF and got lucky !!

https://i.imgur.com/sNCOF7Ql.jpg

dsraven 09-30-2018 02:15 PM

Re: 57 Panel "FAKMLC" build
 
those oil pumps have issues with the pick up tube o ring leaking. make sure to change the o ring and also take the bypass valve apart and clean the plunger and piston bore.

FAKKY 09-30-2018 03:20 PM

Re: 57 Panel "FAKMLC" build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dsraven (Post 8354415)
those oil pumps have issues with the pick up tube o ring leaking. make sure to change the o ring and also take the bypass valve apart and clean the plunger and piston bore.

You tell me 10 minutes after shes all buttoned back up :) New pan came with new pickup and new oring.

https://i.imgur.com/0KhqW1Wl.jpg

FAKKY 10-01-2018 11:15 AM

Re: 57 Panel "FAKMLC" build
 
Good article on setting transmisison in correctly ....... and the torque convertor.

Found teh two starter bolts are great as dowel guides - but at $5 each ...... going to go to hardware store and loko for a cheaper option.

http://www.wwdsltd.com/4L60/4L60EInstallation.html

https://www.autozone.com/repairinfo/...96b43f8025eefc

https://ls1tech.com/forums/automatic...allations.html

Black_Sheep 10-01-2018 06:59 PM

Re: 57 Panel "FAKMLC" build
 
Your engine looks pretty good inside.

FAKKY 10-01-2018 08:14 PM

Re: 57 Panel "FAKMLC" build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Black_Sheep (Post 8355290)
Your engine looks pretty good inside.

Thanks !!
You never really know when your buying something and since I've never been into an engine before - even with it somewhat apart hard to be 100% sure.

But with all those factors together and how clean the transmission was .... going to run it :)

Think Im going to bite the bullet and do a high mount AC swap ...... looks like around $400-$500 all in.

Any recommendations ?

FAKKY 10-03-2018 03:24 PM

Re: 57 Panel "FAKMLC" build
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3eVySRDDn4

updated video .......... on engine fitment ...

thoughts ?
.

mikebte 10-03-2018 06:12 PM

Re: 57 Panel "FAKMLC" build
 
I second, engine looks nice, you will have that discoloration. I have been in a lot of newer engines that have that.

As everyone said, replace the o-ring for the pick up tube and it wont hurt to have a fresh oil pump.
My 08 LS has 150K miles and holds good oil pressure, but I always fear the day it gets low.

FAKKY 10-03-2018 06:40 PM

Re: 57 Panel "FAKMLC" build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikebte (Post 8356592)
I second, engine looks nice, you will have that discoloration. I have been in a lot of newer engines that have that.

As everyone said, replace the o-ring for the pick up tube and it wont hurt to have a fresh oil pump.
My 08 LS has 150K miles and holds good oil pressure, but I always fear the day it gets low.

thanks ... good to know !

FAKKY 10-20-2018 03:00 PM

Re: 57 Panel "FAKMLC" build
 
https://i.imgur.com/SVIoYH2l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Nvqn7wCl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/LCj2AI7l.jpg

FAKKY 10-20-2018 03:02 PM

Re: 57 Panel "FAKMLC" build
 
Well ...... got that out ..... took me about 3 hours with welding setup and probably about 3 attempts ...... never had to do that before ..... so good to learn also ...

yossarian19 10-20-2018 08:49 PM

Re: 57 Panel "FAKMLC" build
 
Few thoughts,

That CPP pedal box kit is "fine", I guess, though it positions the brake pedal *really* high. I had to pick my leg up so my kneed was into the steering wheel to get my foot onto it. Your mileage may vary. Also - the firewall flexes when you step on the brakes hard. You may want to add bracing somehow.

The engine, as it sits in the video, is low enough to the crossmember that I wonder if you could remove the oil pan without pulling the engine out or at least jacking it up off the mounts..? Something to consider.

I would stuff it as far back as you can and start low, raising it until you can fit some manifolds or headers in there. I think the narrowest factory manifolds are either the Corvette or F body ones? Somewhere, I'm sure, the internet can tell us. The Hooker manifolds look good, too.

Don't move it forward. Not until you have the core support, radiator & fans in place. You don't want to run out of room up there. Ask me how I know :)

Starting to think about parts-gathering to borrow some of your ideas for my own truck. Looks great! Keep it up! It's going to be hella satisfying to drive it.

FAKKY 10-21-2018 10:31 AM

Re: 57 Panel "FAKMLC" build
 
Thanks - and good tips as always.

Just finishing off the sheet metal welding in the door pillar and foot step on passenger side. Then going to rust treat with some POR15. After that going to let the wife do the interior insulation ...... cutting and setting all the matt ...... guess I'll have to get the transmission floor shifter in place first though.

Something like this maybe.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/GM-4L60-Sin...pWbn:rk:1:pf:0


Asides that ......... like you said going to try and move it as far back as I can. I *think* I have plenty of verticle room looking at where the hood would be if it was on ........ but hard to know for sure without pulling it out which would be a bit of a drama.

I gave up on AC stock fitment - went with Billet ICT relocation
https://www.jegs.com/i/ICT-Billet/33...94X-3/10002/-1


So ....... goal is to TRY and get this all done by wifes birthday in April .... now that the heat is tarting to go ....... will see .... be tight ... lots to do.

yossarian19 10-23-2018 08:57 AM

Re: 57 Panel "FAKMLC" build
 
To paraphrase my old man, you can always do things faster if you do them half-fast ;)
Take your time. Don't burn out. Go to car meets or watch events coverage if you need motivation. It'll get done.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:04 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com