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About time... my 409
A few guys have requested I post some pics of the big block so here they are. This is probably one of the biggest things that usually seperates my truck from everyone elses http://67-72chevytrucks.com/board/ubbhtml/smile.gif Let me know what you think. Thanks
http://www.freephoto-i.net/users/Che...Engine0001.jpg ------------------ 72 with 69 grille and custom 73-87 stepside. BIG BLOCK 409, SM465, NP205, 3/4 axles slung under a 5" lift, 112" frame, and 33's soon to grow... "BUILT NOT BOUGHT" ...oh, and industrial paint protecting her body. |
Sorry, the bottom pic kinda got cut off... here's the rest:
http://www.freephoto-i.net/users/Che...ngine20001.jpg |
I got one of those, was thinking of putting it in the kids 68 3/4. Whats your in ?
------------------ 71 basic C-10 350. The only option is the rust.No nothing on it, but thats all about to change. <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/stevemau/slam33page.html?1004806705410 " TARGET=_blank>http://www.geocities.com/stevemau/slam33page.html?1004806705410 </A> |
I want one of those SO BAD I can taste it. I've looking around here (DFW Texas) and haven't even seen one. Have a spare for sale?
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the pics didn't show up not even an x i wonder why?
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is your 409 a car or truck engine I have a truck 409
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Hell yes! the guys that "dare to be different", are the ones that impress me the most.......hotrods 4 ever.....69 longhorn.
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Finally! Looks great. Ok, ya know im gonna ask....why blue valve covers? LOL. Just kiddin', I know a guy that painted his whole 348 green! His reason was because of all the money he had in it. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/board/ubbhtml/smile.gif I've also seen these engines done completely in blue and one in yellow. (all had chrome covers and air cleaner)
Here's my ride. A 1966 Chevelle SS with a 1963 400hp 409 stuffed into it. http://www.freephoto-i.net/users/bobs409/66ss47.jpg http://www.freephoto-i.net/users/bobs409/66ss56.jpg ------------------ 63 Impala*66 Chevelle SS*69 Chevelle*69 C10 Stepside*71 Cheyenne 20*72 Chevelle Parts for sale: http://www.angelfire.com/trek/mr409/items4sale.html |
were 409s the only engines wiht the valve covers in those shapes? what are all the differences in them from a bbc? thanks, Ben
------------------ Brandon, SD 69 GMC 1/2 ton 2wd wide long bed with wood 3 on the tree 350 engine 4 bolt main rv cam AIM = Alphray04 |
Slam: It's in my 72 stepside (read signature)
Kobuzz: Actually, I just bought another '09. Guess, I'm getting lucky, huh http://67-72chevytrucks.com/board/ubbhtml/smile.gif Meathead: It's a truck motor, came out of a '65 C-80. While the compression is low and HP not scary-high, torque is absolutely AWESOME and from what bobs409 says, these engines are wanted by many hot-rodders because of notches in the cylinders that increase air flow and keep it cool (did I get that right Bob?) Bobs409: Why blue? Why chrome like every other engine I see? http://67-72chevytrucks.com/board/ubbhtml/smile.gif Hey, least it's GM blue. I love the car though, that's BEAUTIFUL. It's got something to back it up too, that's nice AND powerful... what kind of headers and do you think I could find some to fit mine? Thanks for the input everyone. ------------------ 72 with 69 grille and custom 73-87 stepside. BIG BLOCK 409, SM465, NP205, 3/4 axles slung under a 5" lift, 112" frame, and 33's soon to grow... "BUILT NOT BOUGHT" ...oh, and industrial paint protecting her body. |
Benrs86, 348's look almost identical to 409's and they're both big blocks.
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409---Anytime you want to send some of that luck my way feel free. I have the $$$ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/board/ubbhtml/smile.gif
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looks great!
389s and 409s had the valve covers like that ------------------ My Truck pictures www.xframeimpala.com 68 4x4 short fleetside 327 CH465 edelbrock intake and carb MSD distributor its the "SHAGROLET" 56 big window short stepside 235 dual 1 brls 64ImpalaSS 327 70 C10 LWB fleetside custom/10 350/TH350 IM me on aol SN= SHAGROLET |
so 348s 389s and 409s were big blocks with wierd heads and valve covers? why have i never heard of them? were they in older cars than 67 or newer than 72? thanks, for teaching me, Ben
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I think that the 348 first came out in the 58 impalas. than in some thing like 61 they introduced the 409. This was in the cars like impalas and bel airs. I'm not really sure about truck engines though. And I'm pretty sure that the 389 is a pontiac which isn't really a big block or a small block. Hope this helps a little
------------------ Seattle, Wa 72 k5 Blazer 350/350 4" lift 33/11.50 67 pontiac gto 400 4-speed "undergoing restoration" I'm 18 and haven't owned a car built after 1972. |
You guys are driving me nuts. My dream engine for my 56 is a hilborn fuel injected (electronic conversion) 409. Oh well, thanks for keepin' the dream alive.
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389? thats pontaic.....
the 348 was first introduced as a motor for big trucks..... it was introduced into cars in 58 in the impala.....the 409 came out in 61 ands final year (in cars atleast) was 65 ------------------ My Truck pictures www.xframeimpala.com 68 4x4 short fleetside 327 CH465 edelbrock intake and carb MSD distributor its the "SHAGROLET" 56 big window short stepside 235 dual 1 brls 64ImpalaSS 327 70 C10 LWB fleetside custom/10 350/TH350 IM me on aol SN= SHAGROLET |
Ok, here's a run down on these engines.
The 348: The 348 engine was first introduced in October of 1957. This was the begining of the "Big block" for Chevrolet. The 348 was originally scheduled to be used only in Chevrolet trucks. More cubic inches were needed in the passenger cars so the 348 was used there as well. In the first year, two versions were available; the 4-barrel 250hp and the 280hp equipped with 3-2 barrel carburetor's. Late in 58, another version was released, this time being the 315hp 348. The additional horsepower was achieved by using a high lift cam and solid lifters. It also was equipped with the 3-2 barrel carb setup. The 250hp, and the 280hp were available with powerglide or turboglide transmission, however the 315hp 348 was only available with the 3-speed transmission. The 4-speed was available for the 59 models. The 305hp version was introduced and was nothing more than the 315hp with a 4-barrel instead of the 3-2 barrels. Available for 1959 were the, 250hp, 280hp, 305hp, 315hp, 320hp and a 335hp 348's. The higher horsepower engines were equipped with dual point distributors, improved head's and 2 1/2"exhaust. The carter AFB was also introduced and used on the 320hp. By 1961, the horsepower was still growing. Now available were the 340hp and the 350hp 348's. This year would mark the birth of the famed 409 engine. Cubic Inch=348 Bore=4.125 Stroke=3.25 Firing order=1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2 Engine Weight=640/650lbs Forged Crank Connecting rod length=6.135 inches Fuel pump push rod length=5.75 inches Dipstick on Drivers side Ignition timing=4 degrees B.T.D.C. Spark plugs=AC44 (standard), AC45 (hotter), AC43 (colder) Spark plug gap=.035" Rocker arm ration=1.75:1 Internally balanced All 348's were made in the Tonowanda build plant The 409: Late in 1961 the 409 engine was released. Because of it's late arrival, production numbers were low in the first year. The total production figures for 409's in '61 was only 142! Making them very rare today. This also marked the first year of the SS. There was a total of 453 Supersports made in 1961. The 1961 SS 409 could be considered the father of the muscle car for Chevy. Other auto makers like, Pontiac, Buick, Plymouth, were all coming out with bigger engines. Chevrolet needed the 409 to keep up at the drag strips. There was only one version of the 409 in 1961. It was the 360hp. It was equipped with solid lifters, high lift cam, and a 4-barrel Carter AFB carburetor. In 1962, a 380hp could be had. More importantly the 409hp 409 with 2 4-barrel Carter AFB's was now available. This is the one that the Beach boys were singing about in '62. 1963 saw 3 new horsepower 409's. The 340hp, 400hp, and the 425hp. The 340hp had hydraulic lifters, and both the 400 and 425hp came with solid lifters, and special cam. This was the first year chrome was used on the 409's. The 400hp 409 came with a single 4-barrel Carter AFB carburetor, and the 425hp 409 with 2 4-barrel Carter AFB's. These same three engines were available for 1964 however it would be the last year for the 425hp version. In 1965 the 340hp and the 400hp 409's were the only sizes available. Sales dwindled down to 2,828 in 1965 due to the 409 option ending around February of 1965. This was the last year for the 409. It was replaced by the 396. Cubic Inch=409 Bore=4.3125 Stroke=3.5 Firing order=1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2 Engine Weight=640/650lbs Forged Crank Connecting rod length=6.00 inches Connecting rod weight=25.025 ounces Fuel pump pushrod length=5.75 inches Dipstick on Passenger side Ignition timing=340hp-10 degrees BTDC 400&425hp-12 degrees BTDC Spark plugs=AC43N (standard), AC44N (hotter), AC42N (colder) Spark plug gap=.035" Rocker arm ratio=1.75:1 Internally balanced All 409's were made in the Tonowanda build plant *note, there were some blocks with CFD cast into them that were supposed to have come form the Central Foundry Division when there was a strike at the Tonowanda plant. Production of 409 equipped cars: 1961-142 1962-15,019 1963-16,902 1964-8,864 1965-2,828-(2,086 340hp/742 400hp) 43,755 409 engines were produced from 1961-1965. These number do not include trucks ------------------ 63 Impala*66 Chevelle SS*69 Chevelle*69 C10 Stepside*71 Cheyenne 20*72 Chevelle Parts for sale: http://www.angelfire.com/trek/mr409/items4sale.html |
Thanks for the info Bob... hey, having a '65 in my truck, do the low production numbers make this engine worth more than any of the others (expcept for '61, with the lowest production numbers of all)?
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Those production numbers aren't for truck engines, only passenger cars.
I don't know of any records of the number of truck engines produced. The 1961 passenger car engines are greatly sought after by restorers. Other than that, the most valuable would be the high horse engines. The 1962 409/409, 63-64 425hp, 63-65 400hp. ------------------ 63 Impala*66 Chevelle SS*69 Chevelle*69 C10 Stepside*71 Cheyenne 20*72 Chevelle Parts for sale: http://www.angelfire.com/trek/mr409/items4sale.html [This message has been edited by bobs409 (edited March 19, 2002).] |
chevy409,
I can't find your old post about the oil line but I have had some replies at my 348/409 site about it. No one believes this line to be stock. I was thinking it may be been rigged up too. Did you say it goes into the distributor? If so, it may be the old style distributor with the oil fill tube that someone hooked up oil pressure to. Very odd however! Another idea is that since it's from a large truck C-80, it probably had an oil pressure gauge so possibly someone ran the line back into the engine instead of just removing/plugging it. The oil sending units on the car engines (because they had idiot lights) is just above the oil filter. This is where an oil gauge line could go too. ------------------ 63 Impala*66 Chevelle SS*69 Chevelle*69 C10 Stepside*71 Cheyenne 20*72 Chevelle Parts for sale: http://www.angelfire.com/trek/mr409/items4sale.html |
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I cant see the pics ... can you repost them?
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HaHa, that's funny....... I don't think any of those guys are still here. LockDoc |
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