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CamaroChris 05-25-2011 02:43 AM

1986 Suburban Build 6.0l/4L80e/4x4
 
I thought I would make a new post on my Suburban 6.0 swap. This is going to be my first Big project so be easy on me. I have lots of questions. My goal is to have it finished by late summer when it starts to be good camping weather,

here is how she sits after the 6" full spring lift
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...-16-46_946.jpg
I'll put more info up tomorrow.

I bought the 'burb Halloween night 2010, completely stock with only 60,000 miles in it.

things I have done:

Brakes
both tie rods
pitman arms
new steering gear box
plugs wires cap
belts
6" lift
alternator
all new exhaust, went from a hole ridden 2" dual to a 3" Y-piped single.
I went and bought new doors all the way around. thats about the only thing in the truck thats rusted out. the body its self is in really good shape.

CamaroChris 05-25-2011 11:30 PM

Re: 1986 suburban build with 6.0l swap
 
I found a 1991 2500 suburban T-case! so now I don't need a ford D60

CamaroChris 05-26-2011 12:14 AM

Re: 1986 suburban build with 6.0l swap
 
Here are some interior pictures, this truck is in pretty good shape for the 500$ i spent for her. I need help choosing a color for the new interior. this is a camping/tow rig. I will be sleeping in it, therefor i want it to be cool as possible. I have 5% tint all the way around, that helps heat a lot. I'm a machinist so by the end of the day I'm covered in filth, so I need something that is super easy to clean. and keep clean. so I think I decided that I'm going with a really nice vinyl to wrap the seats in and black carpet.. any way... what color will be the coolest so I can sleep in out in the desert. NO red or blue :lol: I'm going to have all plastics re stained also. I want that cherry, right of the showroom floor look. black? tan? grey? what have you guys had experience with? thats all for now.

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...-39-43_601.jpg
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...-39-49_500.jpg
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...-40-36_313.jpg
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...-39-25_307.jpg
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...8-41-23_61.jpg

Edahall 05-26-2011 11:52 AM

Re: 1986 suburban build with 6.0l swap
 
I also use my Suburban for camping and as far as staying cool, the best color is to paint the exterior white. I also took down the headliner on my Suburban and glued thin Styrofoam between the headliner and top. Right now, I'm trying to find a way to run a small fan to keep air flow moving in the Suburban during the hot nights. I'm thinking about using that space in the kick panel to mount a fan.

As far as interior color that doesn't show dirt, dark grey works very well. Black color carpeting is too dark and the lighter color dirt would show.

CamaroChris 05-28-2011 08:10 AM

Re: 1986 suburban build with 6.0l swap
 
Welll tonight I got the front clip taken off, also found an LQ9 out of an escalade. that will be the new heart :)

CamaroChris 05-30-2011 07:21 AM

Re: 1986 suburban build with 6.0l swap
 
After this weekend...

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/DSCF1826.jpg
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/DSCF1851.jpg
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/DSCF1863.jpg
"Buy me!!" LOL
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/DSCF1860.jpg
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/DSCF1864.jpg
I also bought a new car... Lsx swap #2 after the suburban is done of course.
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...F1834-Copy.jpg

CamaroChris 05-31-2011 03:43 AM

Re: 1986 suburban build with 6.0l swap
 
Bump?

CamaroChris 06-10-2011 12:36 AM

Re: 1986 suburban build with 6.0l swap
 
Well I sold the factory motor today :) Lq9 Is on its way from Idaho. I think I'm going to try and get the seats out of my donor Denali to fit in the suburban this weekend instead of having mine re-upholstered

CamaroChris 06-12-2011 09:57 PM

Re: 1986 suburban build with 6.0l swap
 
yesterday I went and had a heyday at Tear-A-Part. bought a Hydro-boost set up, bought a 40/20/40 bench seat set. It was a cool find because they never came that way, It was either bench or buckets. now the center seat folds down. they were sold aftermarket form a place called Qualitex. Also picked up a new console that sits against the headliner with nice map lights and some compartments. I'm getting excited to get this thing running again. Today I went and removed all of the tape from the wiring harness for the HVAC components and cleaned them up, looked for shorts and loomed them up real nice. I went and extended the wires that go to the A/C compressor also. It looks so much cleaner now.

some pictures:

Hydro-boost
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...-19-24_306.jpg

Gauge cluster with electronic speedo that will hook to vss on T-case
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...-06-33_197.jpg
the trans
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...-03-14_973.jpg
motor mount brackets
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...-20-56_838.jpg
wiring cleaned up some
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...-41-55_200.jpg
the 6.0 from the denali
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...-03-06_350.jpg

MadManAndrew 06-13-2011 12:37 AM

Re: 1986 suburban build with 6.0l swap
 
Keep it coming! Looks awesome.

CamaroChris 06-15-2011 01:36 AM

Re: 1986 suburban build with 6.0l swap
 
is a 1986 suburban gas tank same as 87-91 gas tank? I am trying to find a way to do the fuel system. I think the best wrought is to get a gas tank from an 87-91 'burb because it already came with a fuel pump? I would change to a 255lph of course. so will the sending unit out of a 87+ 'burb fit into my 86 fuel tank? Thanks In advance

jays68yak 06-15-2011 02:09 AM

Re: 1986 suburban build with 6.0l swap
 
got any pics of the inside of the engine?

ghettoluxury 06-15-2011 09:26 AM

Re: 1986 suburban build with 6.0l swap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CamaroChris (Post 4736171)
is a 1986 suburban gas tank same as 87-91 gas tank? I am trying to find a way to do the fuel system. I think the best wrought is to get a gas tank from an 87-91 'burb because it already came with a fuel pump? I would change to a 255lph of course. so will the sending unit out of a 87+ 'burb fit into my 86 fuel tank? Thanks In advance

Yes the sending unit will fit you need one for a TBI 350. The only differance in the tanks is the 87-91 have baffles inside of them.

CamaroChris 06-16-2011 02:42 AM

Re: 1986 suburban build with 6.0l swap
 
Thank you Ghettoluxury That helps a lot. the problem with the tanks at the junk yard is they poke holes in them for quick draining. bet the sending units are there for 10$ a pop

And I will post some pictures, Think I can sale the long block for a mock up engine?

CamaroChris 06-20-2011 02:20 AM

Re: 1986 suburban build with 6.0l swap
 
Yesterday I striped the fire wall to prep it for paint. I also went to the paint supplier store and picked up a quart of semi gloss POR 15. today I spent some time wet sanding the hvac box down so I can paint it semi gloss black

CamaroChris 06-23-2011 11:48 PM

Re: 1986 suburban build with 6.0l swap
 
After reading through this forum and ls1tech. I decided that I am going to run A/C Cruise control and Tow/haul

CamaroChris 06-27-2011 12:21 AM

Re: 1986 suburban build with 6.0l swap
 
Ok guys I really need some help here. I need to decide what color to paint the burb. I'm thinking black or gun metal. need some opinions Because I'm to the point where i need to paint the firewall.

cletis 06-29-2011 07:41 AM

Re: 1986 suburban build with 6.0l swap
 
I like gun metal, black has been done. That being said, you could paint the engine bay black then do whatever with the rest of the rig.

Edahall 06-29-2011 08:15 AM

Re: 1986 suburban build with 6.0l swap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CamaroChris (Post 4757854)
Ok guys I really need some help here. I need to decide what color to paint the burb. I'm thinking black or gun metal. need some opinions Because I'm to the point where i need to paint the firewall.

Black would be very hot for camping in it.

CamaroChris 07-07-2011 07:22 AM

Re: 1986 suburban build with 6.0l swap
 
I have the motor trans and T-case all in place. Looks like I will have to use the sadden A/C compressor and top mounting brackets. The motor had to be slid back pretty far to clear the cross member that is under the oil pan. I have some pictures of what i"m talking about. I'm still worried that the block is to close to the cross member. what do you guys think?
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...-46-23_808.jpg
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...-46-34_219.jpg
Also today while I was at work I tore into the Engine wiring harness, pretty muck just removed the wire loom. I'm going to set the motor/trans/t=case on the floor, pull up a chair and plug all the wires in that i need and remove the rest. that way I can loom it the way I like and not remove wrong wires by accident.

With the 4L80E being the new TH400 the mounts are the same for the 4x4 trans. I just had to move the cross-member towards the rear about 2" some pictures of that

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...-57-22_320.jpg

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...-57-46_474.jpg

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...-57-32_154.jpg

I have about an inch of wiggle room between the block and the fire wall

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...-51-46_501.jpg

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...-51-24_333.jpg

Here you can kind of see why A/C wont work with factory location. but I think I was planning on using the top mount compressor instead anyway

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...-46-12_713.jpg

Edahall 07-08-2011 01:00 AM

Re: 1986 suburban build with 6.0l swap
 
Could you move the engine even closer to the firewall. On my Suburban, we put the Cummins engine only 1/4" to the firewall and it's all fine.

MTCK 07-08-2011 03:57 AM

Re: 1986 suburban build with 6.0l swap
 
Cool build - way to jump in with both feet!

CamaroChris 07-12-2011 06:50 AM

Re: 1986 suburban build with 6.0l swap
 
So I scored an entire body harness from a 99 camaro for 20$ I pulled one of the fuse blocks (the one with the three fan relays) added a fuel pump and A/C relay. and made fuse spots for ac/cruise, engine sensors, Inj 1 and coils even, Inj 2 and coils odd, PCM Ign, and PCM hot all times. I think that all of them. there is a shop in the mall that makes stickers so i will fave them make me a new sticker for the panel cover. I should look prettty sweet! I'm getting excited.

CamaroChris 07-15-2011 07:28 PM

Re: 1986 suburban build with 6.0l swap
 
Well, today was the big day. I went to a local yard in town and picked up a 2002 6.0l from a Yukon Xl factory rated at 320HP 365TQ with 109k on the clock. bought the motor/ DBW harness and accessory for 1,075.00 out the door, and they are even going to deliver it :) it has the 3 piece engine covers which I really wanted so I'm excited. I will post pictures soon.

CamaroChris 08-01-2011 11:29 AM

Re: 1986 suburban build with 6.0l swap
 
I'll start this update with some Pictures :metal:http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...DSCF1904-1.jpg

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...DSCF1902-1.jpg

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...DSCF1908-1.jpg

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/DSCF1920.jpg

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/DSCF1913.jpg

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/DSCF1926.jpg

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/DSCF1925.jpg

One of my lady friends came to my shop to work on her car, IMO there's nothing Hotter than a chick working on a car :devil:
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/DSCF1933.jpg

Now to some problems I have ran into.

#1 The engine my 4L80e trans came off of is a 2000 iron head 6.0l. the new motor I picked up had a 4l60e so the cranks are different lengths IIRC. so what do i do to get this flexplate spaced correctly?!?!

4l60e crank:
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/DSCF1934.jpg

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/DSCF1935.jpg

Dished 4l60e flexplate

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/DSCF1940.jpg

4l80e crank:

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/DSCF1937.jpg

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/DSCF1938.jpg

Flat 4l80e flexplate
http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/a...n/DSCF1941.jpg


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