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1997 gmc sas and other stuff.
Ok so I finally started on my pickup, actually the sas is almost done. I would have posted pictures awhile ago but I didn't have my computer.
Here it is when I got it. Except for the primer spots, It had a couple of dents that I got fixed. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0032.jpg Then I put a two inch block in it, cranked the torsion bars, and got some different rims and tires really cheap. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0075.jpg Then the work begins.10 bolt out. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0213.jpg http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0212.jpg 14 bolt in, and changing gears. I added a leaf in the rear, and put in a five and a half inch block. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0233.jpg IFS crap out. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0215.jpg http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0214.jpg We got a sas kit from off road direct. Front spring hanger in. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0216.jpg Rear spring mounts, and springs in. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0222.jpg Dual shock hoops. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0224.jpg Front axle. dana 60. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0223.jpg Then replaced everything on the front axle. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0244.jpg Front axle in and shocks on. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0236.jpg I put a two inch spacer on the rear and a half inch on the front. Which made the rear 72 inches wide, and the front 71 and a half. so the front is only a half inch narrower. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0235.jpg Heres what it looks like now. with 35 inch tall tires, and 16 inch rims. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0262.jpg http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0261.jpg I also found a tonneau cover for only 80 dollars, heres the best pic I have of it. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0263.jpg Heres it parked beside my jeep, which also has 35 inch tall tires on it, there about the same height. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0267.jpg http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0268.jpg |
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It looks awesome. Great find on the bed cover.
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thanks
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Very Nice
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ok so I got the exhaust done, and some other stuff, ill get pics up some time in the next couple of days.
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nice work, what kind of other work was involved in the front axle as far as brakes, wheels, steering, trans crossmember work etc.?
I always see guys do SAS conversion but never see what parts they use or need and what they have to fab or mod to make brakes and steering work or wheels. |
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I took the ball joint axle out.
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0270.jpg heres the kingpin axle http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0271.jpg got it in, and I still need to put new lockouts, barings in the pinion, steering stabilizers on, and I think I'm going to put a track bar on also. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0277.jpg http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0279.jpg I also put another inch in the rear, here it is http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0284.jpg then the tires weren't balanced right so I put my jeeps 35 inch mud tires on it and it drives fine so ill get mine rebalanced and put them on sometime. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0285.jpg http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0286.jpg http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0287.jpg I also had the exhaust done http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0275.jpg http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0274.jpg http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0273.jpg http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0272.jpg and benoit454 heres some stuff I had to do to get things to work. I had to take a notch out of the steering arm so it wouldn't hit the shock mounts. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0281.jpg then I had to flip one of the cross members over so it wouldn't hit the rear drive shaft. |
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I also picked up a tahoe for $150 that has paintable bumpers, and the front one has fog lights, and it has inside window parts that I need for my other project.
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nice work so it's all basically stock parts? what did your front axle come from?
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yea its pretty much all stock from some vehicle, the leaf springs are 2.5 inch lift springs from skyjacker for a 73-87 chevy pickup. the axle is from a 91 f350 ford.
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awesome and all the steering and brakes is from the same truck and hooked up to yours without haveing to buy anything else?
I can handle buying some of the bracket kits to hang the springs, but when it comes to the brakes and steering etc. I get lost. |
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I bought a new pitman arm(attaches to the steering gearbox), and the high steering arm(the thing I took a notch out of). Then you can buy a drag link, but I just made mine( if your good at making things then you could also, otherwise theirs might work). You can get everything at offroaddirect.com, but if I were you Id only buy the shock hoops and shock mounts that go on the axle, but Id make the spring mounts, because I had to redrill the holes to mount it and you can't put the tow hooks back on with theirs.
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What size lift spring is in the front, 2" or 4"?
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2.5 inch soft ride springs in the front.
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My god, that truck is gorgeous. And so much work put into it to make it that way.
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Thanks, I still have to put the steering stabilizers on the axle, put my stereo in(and switch my dash at the same time since its cracked), and paint it, then its finished.
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Good lookin truck man, I'm getting ready to do a sas swap on my roommates 97 Chevy using the Sky Off Road kit.
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Good lookin truck man, I'm getting ready to do a sas swap on my roommates 97 Chevy using the Sky Off Road kit.
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cool dude, should turn out great.
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I got the front windows tinted 20% to match the rear.
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0297.jpg I also took the tonneau cover off and put in a chest tool box. I liked how the tonneau cover looked, but I couldn't haul anything taller than the bed so it kinda was an inconvenience. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0298.jpg I used two 2 and a half inch aluminum square tubing and put it between the box and the bed on each side then ran two bolts through the box to the bed. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0300.jpg I also put in four tie downs in the bed, one in each rear corner, and one at the front of each wheel well. I padlocked a chain to one, then ran it through my spare tires rim, then padlocked it to the one in the opposite corner. Its only temporary until I make a holder inside the bed. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0299.jpg |
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Nice! I'd be lost without my tool box. Sure is handy.
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yeah it is, now I have somewhere to put everything.
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awesome job man. i'm trying to gather information on doing a solid axle swap on my 97 K2500. if you dont mind me asking, how much you have into the swap? not including rear axle.
was there any complications other than the knuckle? or any parts that made you wanna :m6: |
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The kit itself cost $600, the springs(which are 2.5 lift springs) $270, the axle was $600, the shocks $200, brake lines $50, I made the cross over steering myself $400 (thats including the new steering arm), and then I went through the whole front axle which cost $300, I also put new lockouts on it $140, so $2560. one other thing that we did was re drill the holes in the front crossmember because they were off a little bit. I am putting a cv joint on the front drive shaft because its at to much of an angle. And if you use a ford axle you have to get a double sized u joint for the front drive shaft to go from the chevy drive shaft to the ford axle. I didn't know when I bought the kit( its from off road direct) that its made of aluminum, and you can't put your tow hooks back on with this kit, so if I were to do it again I would only buy the shock hoops (because they are probably the hardest to make) and make the rest myself.
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It snowed so I went out and played in it, got stuck( I don't have my front drive shaft on so no 4x4 for me. I got unstuck after about 20 min. and digging a 15 ft. trench going forward and backwards.
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I got my front drive shaft made. I changed the yoke on the transfer case, but I had to have the inside machined some to fit like the original.
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0310.jpg I also put a cv joint on it. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0307.jpg http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0308.jpg Then I put a deeper pan on the transmission. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0305.jpg I also have a problem with the engine. Ive put a computer on it multiple times and it says multiple misfire, but it doesn't say which ones. My fuel pump was going bad so I changed it, but it still has misfires. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0304.jpg http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0303.jpg http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0302.jpg Sense that didn't solve the misfires, Im now thinking that its a head gasket. The reason why I think that is because I'm loosing antifreeze, and gaining oil. The radiator is new, and there isn't anywhere where I can see that its leaking. There is more oil in there now then there was before, but its not milky or anything, it looks pretty normal. If anyone else has any other ideas of what it could be I would appreciate the input. |
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I just ordered this.
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...ll1_13_114.jpg To go along with my brand new vortec heads and performer cam I already have. Im going to ditch the vortec fuel injection and computer all together, but keep the vortec heads. |
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Nice looking truck. Where in Howard County are you? I'm over in the Worms area.
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It snowed again so I had to go mudding...
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0315.jpg http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0314.jpg http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0313.jpg Its on a trailer because either the power steering pump or the steering gear box went out. So instead of fixing it I'm going to start rebuilding it again, but the way i wanted it this time. In the meantime I'm going to drive my suburban. Now that I think of it I'm going to go make a build thread for it too. |
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it looks good clean...
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0373.jpg http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0374.jpg a couple bad things, the tires must have hit at some point or another and my fenders got a little bent in the front. I know its not from driving, It has to be from off-roading, but I never did any big off-roading. anyhow heres some pics http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0372.jpg http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0371.jpg http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0370.jpg http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0369.jpg Now I've decided what to do with it. Ive decided that I'm not going to off-road with it anymore, mainly because I have a couple other vehicles that are more for off roading. So Its going to be a street queen once I'm done with it this time. To start off I ordered new springs for it. 1. because the front springs that are in it now have sagged a little and I never liked them from the start, they seem thin and just lower quality. 2. I have 2.5 inch lift ones on it now, what I ordered are 4 inch lift so i'll be going from 6 inches of lift to 8 inches of lift. then I ordered 6 inch lift springs for the rear, the reason for going with 6 instead of 8 is I was afraid if I would have gone with 8 it would have ended up to tall then I wouldn't be able to do anything about it, so with 6 inch springs I can add a 2 inch or so block to get it to where I want it. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0360.jpg http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0359.jpg theres more 4 inch spring there than I need, because I also ordered a set of 4 inch springs for my jeep. Then I also have this to show. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0377.jpg http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0375.jpg my plans for the engine are a 350 bored out a little(probably to a 355) and balanced with vortec heads, and a performer plus cam. and of course the tuned port fuel injection. I haven't decided on a transmission yet, but I think I'm going to go with a 4l80e but not sure yet. not sure on the transfer case yet either. I got the front springs on this past weekend but still need to upload the pics to my computer, so i'll post them later. |
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my dad needed the spacers on the back for his dually because their steel and hub centric. so he bought me so aluminum ones.
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0387.jpg http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0388.jpg then sense the new spacers are a little narrower I changed the half inch spacers in the front to quarter inch ones. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0384.jpg http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0385.jpg I forgot the measurements but now the axle widths are even closer than they where before. It doesn't really matter sense Im going to do a disc brake conversion on it sometime and Ill have to change the spacers again if I want the axles the same width. then the front springs went on, first thing I did was take a cradle type thing I made for the front off of the old springs and put them on the new ones. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0389.jpg now I know your not supposed to put blocks in the front of a vehicle, but I'm not just putting it there, I'm bolting it to the springs. and the reason of having it is because the ford u-bolts are wider than the springs so by putting this on it makes it the same width as the u-bolts, which i feel is safer. and it also ads another inch of lift, which is how I get 8 inches of lift out of it, the ord kit ads 3 inches, then 4 inch lift springs, then 1 inch with the block, which equals 8 inches of lift. Then the springs go on. they also moved my axle forward about 2 inches, it wasn't in a bad place before so it didn't need to be moved(but I guess that now its a little farther from my fenders where it was hitting, so maybe it will help a little), but its still in a good place so It doesn't matter that they moved it. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0397.jpg heres the stance for now, until I get my rear springs on anyways. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0396.jpg http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0395.jpg http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0394.jpg |
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ok so I got the 6 inch spring on the rear, but I still needed a 4-6 inch block to get it to where I needed it.
http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0404.jpg http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0405.jpg http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0406.jpg http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0407.jpg so sense I needed about a 4 inch block to get it the right hight. I ordered a 4 inch shackle flip kit from off road design. hopefully it'll put it where it needs to be. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0408.jpg the only thing is the exhaust is in the way for the springs to hang lower so it'll have to come out. but I'm going to put true duals on when i put the new engine is so they where going to come off some time anyways. |
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im also going to have to get longer rear shocks because they're pretty close to bottoming out now, but the front is still good.
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I started off by putting the shackle flip on with no blocks in the rear.
Before I could do that I had to get the exhaust out of the way... http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0415.jpg Heres the factory bracket off, http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0416.jpg Flip kit on, they said the open side of the factory shackle could go either way so I put it facing the front. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0417.jpg No blocks, and I had to put the u-bolt going back down because the plate for on top of the springs was going to hit the axle, I could have cut a pretty small notch out of it to make it fit but I didn't want to. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0418.jpg The rear was low. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0419.jpg http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0420.jpg I was going to buy a one inch block and try it, but I had a two inch block sitting here so I tried it. I think it looks awesome! Its the stance I was trying to achieve. http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0445.jpg http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0444.jpg http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0442.jpg http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...p/IMG_0443.jpg I didn't get any good pics of it outside, but I will next weekend. |
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