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McMurphy 10-02-2011 01:25 AM

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Since this build has spun wildly out of control, like our buddy Bomp, I decided a Table of Contents was in order.
Please excuse any hubris on my part, but frankly, I will find this handy too !!
These are all listed in order of original appearance.

1. 1990 Blazer Fuel Tank: Page2 Post32-45
2. Heater Box Rebuild: Page4 Post78
3. 1985 GMC Sierra Donor Truck: Page4 Post93
4. Drip Rail Shave Mod: Page5 Post123
5. P-Side Cab Shoulder Patch ~ My Artwork: Page7 Post155~147
6. Cab Mud Flap Mod: Page8 Post177
7. Guage Cluster Bezel Mod: Page8 Post186
8. Hood Release Mod: Page8 Post187
9. Let the Rust Repairs BEGIN!: Page10-14 Post230-342
10. 1985 Donor Truck Cannibalization: Page12 Post290
11. Cab Corner Floor Plates: Page14 Post350
12. Dash Mod - Heater Controls: Page15- Post354-
13. Under Dash Extension: Page16-32 Post377-794
14. Front Disc Brake Mod Using donor 1981 GMC 1500: Page16- Post390-
15. HydroBoost Power Brakes Mod: Page16 Post396
16. Dome Light Mod: Page16-27 Post400-661
17. SBC 350 Before & After: Page18 Post428
18. Seat Belt Shoulder Anchor Mod: Page18 Post444
19. 1955 Two Ton Dump Bed and 1966 Tempest and 1972 LeMans and Summer Vacation: Page22 Post527
20. RearEnd Takedown: Page22 Post535
21. 1 Year Anniversary Post of Before and "After" Photos: Page23 Post555
22. Fresh Air Vent Mod: Page24 Post595
23. Transmission Access Door Mod: Page27- Post661-
24. Pioneer Stereo System to be installed: Page27 Post653
25. Cab Floor Herculiner: Page31 Post755
26. Under Dash Speaker Panels: Page33 Post802
27. AutoMeter Guages: Page34 Post826
28. "Coulter Trim": Page34 Post839
29. Custom Made Guage Cluster: Page35 Post871
30. Cab Back Panel Mod/Fab: Page37 Post915
31. Emergency Brake Conversion/Set Up: Page39 Post954
32. Door Mods and Paint: Page39-40 Post973-
33. Speaker Baffle Install: Page41 Post1007
34. Side View Mirror Mods: Page41 Post1018
35. E-brake Cable Mod: Page44 Post1082
36. Bench Seat Reupholstered: Page44 Post1098
37. Battery Cradle Relocation Mod: Page45 Post1120
38. Bomp and McMurphy meet / 1964 Tow Truck Page48 Post1176
39. 2 Year Anniversary Post of Before and After Photos Page49 Post1213
50. Headlight, Face, Grill, Air Dam mod start Page52 Post1277
51. Grill Backlighting Page52 Post1298
52. Apache Custom SS emblems Page54 Post1327
53. Hideaway Headlights Page55 Post1352
54. Air Dam mod Page56 Post1386
55. Turn Signal Well shave, Hood Center Mod, Hood paint and mounted Page58 Post1432
56. Modern Cable Hood Release Mod Page62 Post1533
57. Rear Fender Tail Light Shave Page63 Post1556
58. Cheese Cake!! Page64 Post1582
59. Tailgate Illumination Mod Page64 Post1588
60. First Car Show Fathers Day 2014 Page68 Post1693



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1. Fresh Air Vent Mod: Page25 Post609
2. Black Friday/Shifter Adapter Fab: Page28 Post677
3. Pizza Box Templates/Transmission Inspection Plate Fab: Page28 Post691
4. The Christmas Video: Page30 Post740
5. Bomp vs McMurphy/Challenge Accepted Video: Page35 Post862
6. Applying Herculiner on Vertical Surfaces: Page38 Post931
7. Moose in Yard/Other projects: Page40 Post987
8. Interior of Cab Done: Page43 Post1066
9. It's ALIVE....First Engine Start Up in 18 Months: Page47 Post1157
10. 2013 GoodGuys Car Show Video Page48 Post1189
11. 2 Year Anniversary Montage of Before and After Photos Page49 Post1222
12. Hideaway Headlilghts Page57 Post1401
13. Maiden Voyage Page68 Post1693


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Not Another Rebuild Thread......
Oh Yes, 'fraid so.

Hello all.
I have been lurking on this site trying to read thru some of your threads but there are too many and some of them are monster long! But there are enough to give me hope that a shmoe like me cannot screw up a rig so bad that I could not find the solution here... so here goes.

About me: I just rolled 20 years of active duty in the Army on the 18th of August this year. I was stupid enough to take a 7 year break in service which at the time, getting out of the Army seemed like a good idea. My wife and I are both career soldiers, and I am in until Aug 2014 (or until I get too pisst off and retire) and my wife has until March 2017 to make her 20. We are from Spokane WA, and have already started our dream retirement homestead up there. I got into classics because of Kelly Wilson. So if this project kills me, my bank, or my marriage, I will blame him. His whole family is into hot rods, racing or engines of some sort or another, and he introduced me to the joys of building plasic models so we could get free tickets to the Auto Boat Speed Show. One thing lead to another and I got my first classic in Sept 94, the same year my daughter was born and I bought my first house.

Fast forward 17 years and here I am in central Alaska and I am 48 years old. The idea of spending another 9month long winter up here playing World of Warcraft is just not as appealing as it sounds. So I started looking for a project truck, again I blame Kelly Wilson because a few years back he showed me a stepside chevy luv 4x4 truck that was just too cool and I wish I had gotten it. But as I stewed on it I knew I wanted the truck we had when I was a kid, so I started looking for a mid 60s stepside chevy.

I was driving around Fairbanks to the boneyards to see if there were any resto candidates and as I passed by this one shop on the outskirts I happend to spot the 1937 Fire Truck. As I got closer I spied the 66 stuffed in the thick growth of saplings in the corner, almost too well hidden.
I met the owner, chewed on the idea for a day or two, then on 22 Sept with $500 it was mine. Problem was the kid had no title for it. Not insurmountable, but still a bummer.
First pic is what I saw when I got in the gate of the yard, then side and a shot of the cab. Last photo is it arriving at my apt in North Pole.

McMurphy 10-02-2011 01:59 AM

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On 23 Sept I wasted a half a day at the DMV, not only did I wait entirely too long but I had to endure the pissy attitude of the gal behind the counter that had to explain to me the process of getting a bonded title for the truck, but I only walked out of there with more paperwork than I took in with me.

Before I bought the truck I took down the VIN and did a search on it, mostly just to make sure it wasnt stolen since the guy I got it from didnt have a title to it. In the sunvisor was a very old registration certificate that showed the name and address of the person who registered it at that time (June of 98). On a whim the wife and I drove out to the address on that registration and even tho it was a long shot in the dark, the fellow actually still lived there and was jazzed to know someone had gotten his old truck and was going to get it back on the road. He agreed to meet me at a tag and license office and see if he was still the last person to hold the title. We met up today, 01 Oct 11 and luckily he was so now I have a clear title to the truck!

All week I have been buying stuff, compressor, tools, odds and ends, and paint. I also tore into the cab, getting all the 70s era carpet off the walls and floor, and looking for the rust that I knew was going to be there. I will post those pics later when I have a before and after set. Before I could really tear into the truck though I had to get an ATV tent up and get my snow plowing Polaris out of the garage. The tent will also serve as a parts storage. The tent went up this afternoon, and I got to work on the rig...

First pic is the ATV and parts tent. Second and third is my rear passenger side wheel before and after. I took a wire wheel to the rim and painted the brake drum behind it. The last 2 are with the grill off...

Ornery37 10-02-2011 05:18 AM

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cool! like the camper shell, not too sure about the carpet door pannels though :)

Corts60 10-02-2011 01:01 PM

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That's great that you finally have yourself a project! I would've thought it would have been impossible to find a short box 2 wheel drive truck in AK.

Welcome aboard and thanks for your service! I spent 9 years in the Coast Guard my self.

McMurphy 10-02-2011 04:27 PM

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Thanks for the replies guys!
I was on the fence about the camper shell until I met and talked with TDaley the last registered owner and found out some of the history of the truck.

It started life as an Air Force fleet of trucks that were sublet to a local communications company for their linemen to use in keeping the Air Force Base lines up. It was the dark, Air Force blue and came with the 292 IL6 and as you can see on the passenger side fender, the "slave cable" jumper outlet. It served in this capacity until the AF retired it, and the fellow it had been assigned to bid on the option to buy it. I guess he had it for a number of years until owner #3 (TDaley) got it. He is the one that built the camper and he dated his wife in this truck. He used it to haul his fishing boat down to Anchorage until he threw a rod in the engine coming back to Fairbanks.

He had it hauled away by a local boneyard, never to see it again; or so he thought. It traded hands to 2 other fellows until it came to a 6 year rest in the yard behind the business where I found it. The young guy I got it from said his dad was going to do something with it, but died before he could get anywheres with it, and so there it sat until I came along. In reality I am the 6th owner, but by documentation I am the 4th. Not sure if there is an equivalent to the Pontiac Historical Services for these trucks, but it would be nice to have all that information for car shows.

The truck is incredibly solid, as is the camper, which will only take some wood glue, caulk, a few replacement parts, stain and some laquer to refinish.
My plans for this truck are to use it to haul my 66 Tempest to car shows that are outside of Spokane in order to attend, and still keep my odo milage down. Something deep in the back of my soul is saying that a 66 truck hauling a 66 converible would be something to see at a car show....
Right now I just want to get it back on the road with some look and style, some repair and upgrades, but hold off on a frame off until I get my shop built back home. Then it will be a retirement project for me after I get the house built.

First pic is 25sep11 of the bed of the truck which had 2" of dirt and dust, 3 batteries, my driveline, 4sp transmission, heater box assembly with 2 cores, and a few other misc parts that I may or may not need or use.
Second pic is the bed after a bit of cleaning. I was totally surprised that I only had 1 broken board in my bed and none were rotted out. Though my metal bed rails are rusted to :devil:

Alan's Classic 10-02-2011 10:18 PM

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Welcome aboard and cool story so far. If you have a question your in the right place.

McMurphy 10-03-2011 01:10 AM

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Thanks Alan, but frankly if your thread dont answer a ton of unasked questions, I dont know what would...

McMurphy 10-03-2011 11:15 PM

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Yesterday was spent stripping paint from the door panels and the back of the cab inside until almost dinner time. Then it was off to Sears for their friends and family sale... plus Military discount = about 30% off. So I got some serious tools and supplies to include a pair of angle grinders. A small amp one for stripping paint, and a bigger amp one for cutting and grinding metal. Because I am just that much lazy to want to swap out a disc.... sad but true.

The first pic is my "plan" for the basic look of the trucks paint scheme with some of the mods, like an air dam-lowered front bumper, and removal of the wing window. I want to do an in-cab hood release and grill in those two snorkel ports between my parking lights in the hood too. And the big dream is to do hideaway headlights for a straight black face. I looked at 69 Camaro hideaways but they pivot on a vertical spindle whereas I want a flip up or flip down door like a 69 Ford, or a 69 GTO (respectively). We will see, I do tend to be as stubborn as I am lazy... go figure.

Second and third pics is my cab back wall stripped and then painted.
Thanks for tuning in !

Alan's Classic 10-03-2011 11:29 PM

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Thanks Alan, but frankly if your thread dont answer a ton of unasked questions, I dont know what would...

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fryer1979 10-05-2011 07:21 AM

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Cool, I like the drawing. I'm in. :)

McMurphy 10-05-2011 09:48 PM

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Ok so yesterday I tackled both door panels, and my passenger side door. This is my progress...

#1 one is the door panel off and stripped.
#2 is painted with semigloss Rustolem over the self etching primer grey I like so much..
#3 is the masking for the detail off. Since I like the flat gray color, and I cannot find a semi gloss in this shade, I am thinking about shooting some clear coat over the primer and calling it good. Thoughts or potential problems with this idea anyone?
#4 is the door in all its grungy, carpet stripped glory.
#5 is the two reunited with the handles for show...

One thing I have noticed about graduating from plastic car models to classic vehicles, is I skin my knuckles alot more on than I used to.... sorry that was supposed to be funny.

bubba327 10-05-2011 11:19 PM

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Nice score!!! Up in the north country I have heard the winter months are also called "garage season" Maybe you will be finished up and cruising in the spring!! Welcome to the site!!! :chevy:
Check out the regional section here , I have seen some posts from some others in the Alaska section!!

Maybe you could put in a good word in to the big jolly bearded guy who brings me parts and neat tools around the end of December.
He could hook you up with parts at reasonable shipping!!!:lol:

markeb01 10-06-2011 12:51 AM

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Outstanding! Great truck and story, looks like you're really making progress. Welcome to the forum!

rcbildr 10-06-2011 01:05 AM

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***One thing I have noticed about graduating from plastic car models to classic vehicles, is I skin my knuckles alot more on than I used to.... sorry that was supposed to be funny.***

Nice truck. I think a vehicle isn't officially yours until it draws blood. ;)

LostMy65 10-06-2011 02:08 AM

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I really hated to see you ditch the carpet door panels. ;)

McMurphy 10-07-2011 02:49 PM

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Nice score!!! Up in the north country I have heard the winter months are also called "garage season" Maybe you will be finished up and cruising in the spring!! Welcome to the site!!! :chevy:
Check out the regional section here , I have seen some posts from some others in the Alaska section!!

Maybe you could put in a good word in to the big jolly bearded guy who brings me parts and neat tools around the end of December.
He could hook you up with parts at reasonable shipping!!!:lol:
I will give it a go for you Bubba! From what I hear Santa rides a Harley up here in the off season, but I have yet to spot him!

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Outstanding! Great truck and story, looks like you're really making progress. Welcome to the forum!
Thanks Mark. I have read your thread and really dig your caddy lights! I am from Spokane, grew up out at the end of Long Lake went to school at Springdale. Would like to catch up to you next August when I am in town, photo shoot your truck with my Tempest!

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Nice truck. I think a vehicle isn't officially yours until it draws blood.
rcbildr, one of the nails on the camper shell got me on day 1 of my tearing into it. Tore a nice 3" gash on my left arm... I was so proud. I showed my wife my "first blood" to the truck. LOL too funny!

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I really hated to see you ditch the carpet door panels.
I could send them to you maybe? Haven't tossed them out the door just yet ... Hahahah

k1rodeoboater 10-07-2011 10:53 PM

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I like that cap you got on the bed there, you gonna keep it or trash it? I'm amazed at how good of shape your truck is in for being up in AK.

How's that clip on work light work for you? I really need to get more light in my storage unit than my little flourescent shop light can provide.

Also can you take a pic of how the hazards are wired up in your truck for me. I pulled one out of a truck in a junkyard as mine is missing them and I'd REALLY like to have them in there just in case my truck decides to crap out on the side of the road again

McMurphy 10-08-2011 02:54 PM

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I like that cap you got on the bed there, you gonna keep it or trash it? I'm amazed at how good of shape your truck is in for being up in AK.

How's that clip on work light work for you? I really need to get more light in my storage unit than my little flourescent shop light can provide.

Also can you take a pic of how the hazards are wired up in your truck for me. I pulled one out of a truck in a junkyard as mine is missing them and I'd REALLY like to have them in there just in case my truck decides to crap out on the side of the road again

I will do what I can for you K1, but my under dash wiring is pretty tore up. A PO had installed aftermarket guages, two of those and the ignition switch look to have been un-professionally removed LOL. I was not planning on tearing my steering column up-open-out either unless I absolutely have to... have done that with my Tempest and I hate doing it each time.
The clip on the light works ~reasonably~ well. There are some physics involved sometimes meaning the bracket has to be supported in some positions because the clip is not very strong. Alot of the time I have it clipped to the edge of a 5gal bucket, and I move it and point it around like that.

I was at a boneyard yesterday looking at parts trucks (dude has 8 or 9 of these mid-60s back there) and found some tail lights I want. The most radical are on a 60s-ish Plymouth, it has the most bizzare dash inside I have ever seen, but the tail lights are like rocket jet packs on the side of the rear quarter. The other set I am looking at are off a 67 Impala. It may depend on which ones, if either, the old guy is willing to part with.

Pics later today.... almost a decent hour to get out into the garage now. (I live in a duplex, and the two Air Force kids downstairs work the night shift)

k1rodeoboater 10-08-2011 03:30 PM

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Depending on what is still left on those trucks you might be able to salvage stuff and ship it out to make some money on the side, or add to your truck for some nicer amenities. I know shipping from AK to CONUS is gonna be killer though

McMurphy 10-08-2011 11:42 PM

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About the camper... it is really solid. Some wood glue, a few new nails, caulk, and a once over with sander and laquer and it would be ready for another 20 years. So I am thinking about keeping it. The plan is to load it onto my little Sonomoa and have the Army ship it home for me when I retire. Because I plan on driving this 66 home.

Yesterday I checked out this Hobart Handler 180, and picked it up for $700 with all the stuff the gal tossed in with it. A tank of gas, hood, 2 spools of wire, a 25' extension cord she made for it, and all the spare tips that came with it. She said it is 4 years old, but she didnt use it for the 2 years she was away in college, but to look at it in person it looks fresh out of the box...

So did I score, or did I get chumped?

McMurphy 10-09-2011 12:03 AM

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I didnt get as much done today as I had planned.
I did reorganize the stuff we are storing in the garage to make some more room, hung some shelves on the wall to help me get or be somewhat orgainzed, and did some serious sweeping up in there, the floor was getting deep in dirt enough to plant a small garden I think...

Then I started my day off with grinding off the pop rivets that were holding the louvered tail gate skin on, and found a ~decent~ shape tail gate under that thing. So off with the TG and getting all the gunk off that was used to glue the skin on lent to stripping then primer of the old boy. Nothing like fresh paint to really bring the flaws to light !!

I may snag another TG on Sunday while I am boneyarding it if I can find one that is better, or that can be used to reskin my top edge. I think if I cut a good ( just less damaged) one, and weld it over my dinged up one, it would help.

Then it was off with the passenger side fender, and the front bumper. I am thinking repro for both sides on these. The pass-side has that hole from the slave jumper, is dented to hell there as well, and has the rustrot in the rear. Just too much for me to salvage I think.

#1 and #2 are the TG both sides after primer tho the #2 is not well done, was getting cold and dark outside when I shot the paint was was a rushed job.

#3 is the fender off
#4 is the front bumper off.

It is insanely dirty all up under there. I should drag the whole hulk the 2 miles to the local car wash and spend a few bucks on some pressure washing...

k1rodeoboater 10-09-2011 12:20 AM

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Honestly your tailgate is in REALLY good shape. I'd just use your welder to seal up the holes from the rivets and leave it at that. You did score on that welder BTW, the tank was the big score. You'll want to get some .23 wire for welding your sheetmetal with though, and just bite the bullet and get the big roll. Better to have to much than not enough.


I'm honestly amazed at how good of shape your truck is. The rust damage looks very minimal from the photos, my truck is in far worse shape

McMurphy 10-10-2011 11:20 PM

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90% of my day was either getting supplies, looking for supplies (who knew Walmart no longer sells plastic models, or paint?), or in the boneyard pulling a tranny while my lovely wife gathered up other needed parts. Got windshield wiper arms, total heater box with core, a transmission with an Indy Hurst shifter on it, and the clutch pedal yolk and linkage. Also got a couple of light fixtures from some import car I may have a use for.

Part of the supplies was a new connector for my welder extension cord so it will plug into the Dryer 220 outlet.

Am bushed tired, will post pics tomorrow of yesterdays progress and todays parts.

smilts60 10-11-2011 03:04 AM

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I knew that walmart didnt and it sucks. Even at my age I actualy enjoy building the advanced models and airbrushing them.. Great work so far on your truck great story and looks to be a fun build.

McMurphy 10-11-2011 09:58 PM

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I knew that walmart didnt and it sucks. Even at my age I actualy enjoy building the advanced models and airbrushing them.. Great work so far on your truck great story and looks to be a fun build.

Thanks for stopping by and reading up on my truck Smilts!
I want the model paints for my horn button. I have some cool detail work I want to do with it.

chad64chevy 10-11-2011 10:21 PM

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just checking in on ya! i like the drawing, i'm wanting to see how your going to do the grille! you'll get there it just takes time, good luck!!

McMurphy 10-11-2011 11:19 PM

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just checking in on ya! i like the drawing, i'm wanting to see how your going to do the grille! you'll get there it just takes time, good luck!!

Thanks Chad!

Sunday I got the D-side fender off, though the bottom body bolt at ~that~ corner of the cab was more stubborn than the sheet metal. The fender is off, but the bolt with its handful of twisted metal is still there. It wanted to stay more than I wanted to take it off just yet, so I let it rest. (am letting me rest too LOL)
Though I got the drum cleaned and painted, I didnt get the wheel cleaned as I ran out of time and we had dinner guests coming over. So as you see it in the pic is how it still is.

pic #1 is the P-side wheel hub, that needle scaler is fantastic on cleaning all the years of caked on gunk off these areas!
#2 is the P-side cleaned and drum painted
#3 is the P-side profile with the cleaned wheel back on it.
#4 is the D-side hub cleaned and painted

McMurphy 10-11-2011 11:54 PM

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So yesterday my wife and I spent a few hours of 35* sunshine in the boneyard pulling parts. While I prepped the transmission for drop, and got the pedal yoke, and all the linkage; she was collecting the Heater box, wiper arms, and the lights. Then we got the donor rig lifted and we commenced to drop the tranny.
By the time we were done we were chilled to the bone, but happy. $150 and we walked away with all this stuff.

"We can fix it, my dad's a TV repairman, he's got an awesome set of tools!"

#1 is the complete tranny, from the pedals and yoke, linkage, to the bell housing, and clutch plate
#2 is a close up of the Hurst Indy shifter (we got the knob but the boot and boot plate were chewed up) I think with some clean and polish this alone may have reimbursed me the $150
#3 Heater box with core inside. This weekend I plan on buying a battery for the truck and testing the heater motor and a few other things. We also snagged wiper arms and wiper fluid bottle with mount bracket.
#4 is a back up light and license plate light we got off a foreign car. I am thinking the dual bulb license light will make a really cool cyclops for the back of my cab. Especially if I can link the bulbs to brakes and turn signals.... more to follow on this idea. Plus I think a center back up/trailer hook up flood light would not suck either. We shall see....
#5 is the "cyclops" light opened

C4 Metal Werks 10-12-2011 12:04 PM

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What's under that primer?

scooterskoolkustoms 10-12-2011 12:15 PM

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LOL i had one of those old ford trucks you have in the picture.anyway nice work on your build

McMurphy 10-12-2011 07:37 PM

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What's under that primer?

I am hoping a truck! We shall soon see though. My best friend Kelly Wilson once told me to start with the engine and work your way out from there, that way you dont f**k up anything nice you've done to the outside. I think he also said getting them up and running was the harder part, so might as well get that done first.
So that is my plan.
Am shopping around for a motor to get rebuilt, buying a rebuilt, or getting a crate engine. I am thinking SBC 350 for what I have in mind for the rig.

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LOL i had one of those old ford trucks you have in the picture.anyway nice work on your build
Scooter if you are talking about the red one in the first pic, that is a Fire Truck, and was the first in the "interior" for this part of Alaska. Not sure what it is waiting on, I think it was put in that yard to be restored by the Fire Department, but the funding for it evaporated and so there it sits. Nice piece of Fairbanks history rusting into the ground....

McMurphy 10-16-2011 03:46 PM

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So another day at the pawn shop, and then the boneyard.
Went to the pawn for a power sawsall and found a Matco dent/pully puller. I wasnt really looking for the dent puller, but when I saw how versitile this one was I convinced myself I would need it....
Got a practically new Milwalkee Sawsall in the case too, walked out of there with the two, and $200 lighter in the wallet.

Picked up a fuel cell and skid plate from a fellow parting out a 1990 Blazer on post for $60, going back Monday for the Powersteering pump, gear box, and hoses for $50. Will need some cleaning but should work fine.

Then to the boneyard where I dropped another $200.
Got a "face" panel, not sure what the proper name is, fellow at the yard just said he thought it was part of the radiator mount. Gas pedal, door handle and window crank, a guage cluster, a tail gate that was straighter than my original, and a pair of manual remote side views from what I think was the carcass of a 72 Ranchero. I am not certain of the year, been trying to find them in Ford sites and catalogs but not much luck yet. They have the rally sport look, but have very odd cut shape to the mirror that really appeals to me. I will take some closer shots of the mirrors today.

I tried to talk a bench seat from a 72 El Camino out of the guy, but that car is mostly complete and runs "he says" and he wont part out his cars that are in that kind of condition or status.
He has a late 60s early 70s Lincoln that has the pop up headlights. I am trying to talk him out of the hardware for them. He quoted me $100 for the pair so I am going to have to mull that one over. I may just manufacture something myself for what I have in mind.

I got the extra dash cluster for a couple reasons... 1. practice of taking one out before I put my hands on mine. 2. the plastic "glass" on mine has glue from stickers or lables the Air Force put on there and I am not 100% sure I can get it all off without messing up the face. 3. instead of getting a rebuilt and customized set up off ebay, I have one now to tinker with and see if I can modify it myself, that way I have exactly what I want and where I want it. The only thing I wont be changing is the speedo, though I think will roll the Odo back just like most of you all have done.... Yay team!

Pic #1 is my fuel cell
#2 my skid plate
#3 all my bone yard stuff

McMurphy 10-23-2011 09:48 PM

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Been a good weekend, got some stuff done.

Finished dismantling my front body work, and worked on getting my steering gear box off, but kinda had to set that one aside since I dont have a wench large enough for the hugeass nut on the bottom.
I have a PS pump and gear box off a 1990 Blazer I am hoping to use, am going to post a pic and hopefully some of you all can tell me what I am going to need to make this work, if that is possible and feasible...

Clutch pedal installed in cab, in cab fuel tank out and old mounting brackets cut down. Fuel tank is in pristene condition with about half gal of gas still in it. I capped it off and set it aside will post it on CL along with all my other original spare parts when I am closer to completion I guess.

Trailer hitch un-installed and came to the conclusion that in order to mount that Blazer fuel tank, it will make the job 10x easier if I disassemble my truck bed and pull all the wood deck out.
I just have to remember to include the skid plate when I am positioning the fuel tank.

Wife helped alot on Saturday, she worked some of my cradles and got them cleaned and primered.

pic #1 is the 1990 Blazer PS pump and gear box. Am I going to be able to use these? The pump came off a 350 with a serpentine set up. The Gearbox did not come with the (pitman?) arm. I will ask the guy I got it from if I can get it, if this is going to work of course...
#2 is my side view mirror with the cool cut mirror.
#3 is my cab with the clutch pedal installed, and some of my d-side rot
#4 is close up of my d-side floor rot. I am not sure how much of a patch I am going to need, nor which company makes or supplies the better patches for these trucks. I am going to need the posts, rocker, and guessing a whole d-side floor pan? Just because of the rot just under my gas pedal studs?

Any suggestions?
Gotta have an electrician come out and see if we can wire in a 220 for me so I can power up my welder, guess we are getting close to needing that soon...

As always, thanks for looking and any comments or suggestions you may have would be hugely appreicated!!

Captainfab 10-24-2011 12:54 AM

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Sorry to say, but you won't be able to use that steering box on your truck. The 4wd steering boxes have a different sector shaft (output shaft) than the 2wd versions. You can not install a 2wd pitman arm onto a 4wd steering box. Also your original pitman arm is of no use in upgrading to power steering, so there is no need to remove it from the steering box.

McMurphy 10-25-2011 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Captainfab (Post 4970149)
Sorry to say, but you won't be able to use that steering box on your truck. The 4wd steering boxes have a different sector shaft (output shaft) than the 2wd versions. You can not install a 2wd pitman arm onto a 4wd steering box. Also your original pitman arm is of no use in upgrading to power steering, so there is no need to remove it from the steering box.

ahhh thanks Captain.
I forgot the donor rig was 4wd. That would make sense then. Pump should be Ok though to mount on a plain-jane small block 350?

McMurphy 10-25-2011 09:20 PM

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Can someone tell me in small words what the difference between a 2 bolt and 4 bolt main 350ci is?

Also has anyone had ~any~ luck with repop fenders, and if so, where did you get them please?

I am still a ways away from needing them, but should be on it no later than Feb or March to have the rig on the road this spring. I am sure this old boy will be happy to feel the pavement rolling under it again after sitting for so many years.

Alan's Classic 10-25-2011 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by McMurphy (Post 4973495)
Can someone tell me in small words what the difference between a 2 bolt and 4 bolt main 350ci is?

Also has anyone had ~any~ luck with repop fenders, and if so, where did you get them please?

I am still a ways away from needing them, but should be on it no later than Feb or March to have the rig on the road this spring. I am sure this old boy will be happy to feel the pavement rolling under it again after sitting for so many years.

The difference is the number of bolts that hold the main caps on. The main caps hold the crank in.

I used repop fenders from Goodmark. Over all I'm happy. They need a little massaging around the cowl extension and headlight mount panel.
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McMurphy 10-26-2011 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan's Classic (Post 4973633)
The difference is the number of bolts that hold the main caps on. The main caps hold the crank in.

I used repop fenders from Goodmark. Over all I'm happy. They need a little massaging around the cowl extension and headlight mount panel.
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Thanks for the input Alan... so a 2bolt main does not automatically = small block?
And a 4bolt main not = big block?

Sorry for such noob questions, but I wonder about these things....

kieth 10-27-2011 09:53 AM

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the higher HP 350s' had the 4 bolt mains, the lower hp ones did not, if you are not going more than 300 hp a 2 bolt main block will be fine. As I read your build I did have a thought , since your winters are so harsh (understatement) why don't you leave the camper on the pick up bed, put the bed on blocks outside and use it as additional storage, You can do all the work on the cab, engine, frame etc and the bed is the last thing to go back on. I would really suggest you look for a 91 burb 2wd or 87 pickup that is in fairly good shape, that way you would have all the brake parts, power steering, power brakes etc.....and a 350 tbi fuel injected engine.......I bought one for $1000.00 even used the tilt wheel and the wiring harness........just a thought. Kieth

McMurphy 10-27-2011 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kieth (Post 4976333)
the higher HP 350s' had the 4 bolt mains, the lower hp ones did not, if you are not going more than 300 hp a 2 bolt main block will be fine. As I read your build I did have a thought , since your winters are so harsh (understatement) why don't you leave the camper on the pick up bed, put the bed on blocks outside and use it as additional storage, You can do all the work on the cab, engine, frame etc and the bed is the last thing to go back on. I would really suggest you look for a 91 burb 2wd or 87 pickup that is in fairly good shape, that way you would have all the brake parts, power steering, power brakes etc.....and a 350 tbi fuel injected engine.......I bought one for $1000.00 even used the tilt wheel and the wiring harness........just a thought. Kieth

That is a great suggestion Kieth, thanks!
I had thought of that too, as well as the ATV Tent we put up which is housing most of my front end.
Sadly though we have 6" on the ground here already, and there is a bit of an incline involved with the driveway out the garage doors. I am pretty sure the ATV could push the rig around as it is right now, but has potential to suck too LOL.

I was getting to the point where I was going to start asking about donor rigs, and what to keep an eye out for. I try to take copious notes when I read thru everyone elses rebuilds but I admit I get caught up in the beauty and innovation of some of the work and I forget about the research.
I want an early (late 70s is as new as I want) because after that all the vacuum and electronic stuff gets away from what my skill set can handle :whine:
But on the other hand, the motor has to be big enough to haul my trailered Pontiac up and over the Cascade mountains to Seattle area shows (a few years from now of course).

I guess it is time to make and hang a copy of the sign in old George's Welding Shop.

"DON'T BE AFRAID TO ASK STUPID QUESTIONS....
.... THEY ARE A LOT EASIER TO HANDLE THAN STUPID MISTAKES !"

Thanks again for taking a look!


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