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aotte1 06-15-2014 03:11 PM

64' K10 Project Long Bed
 
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Grandson visiting and we are getting ready to start his 1964, K10 project. We are looking it over, not a lot of rust, cab has a little on right side floor in kick panel area, and door bottom pinch weld gone on both sides, bed pretty good, however, brace at left wheel well has punched through side.

The frame and drivetrain not very rusty, think it has been AZ truck, built in St. Louise.

Drive train on initial look appears original. Missing front drive shaft. Two tone paint. Overall sheet metal looks good.

The frame and cab ID show it to be an original K truck, with two tone paint.

This intended to be a two to three year project as grandson is freshman in HS, and I am 65. He plans to drive it some for fun would be second vehicle for him.


Kind of thinking need to evaluate the drive train, trans, transfer box, diffs as part of first stage of projects. Also thinking the cab restoration would be another first step.

Sure we will be looking for lots of help as we start project.

Les

RANDY COX 06-15-2014 03:23 PM

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KOOL I look forward to yalls build, I too have a 64K10 though ,mine is not factory 4x4. It's sitting on a 70's 4x4 frame. There are lots of good builds on here. Never get tired of lookin... I will be subscribed..

C@rnut001 06-15-2014 06:01 PM

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Your grandson's truck looks solid and a great starting point for his build. Good luck and I hope you guys have a lot of fun working on it. It is great to see a young kid interested in these old trucks.

aotte1 06-15-2014 08:22 PM

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Randy, Owen

Thanks for encouragement, will look at other builds for knowledge on how to restore it. Any specific suggestions on builds to learn from? It does appear to be a solid truck with just a little rust in a few areas in the cab, along with a few small dents here and their. Have no knowledge of drivetrain condition yet, plan to take a closer look this week.

Happy it is a two color paint truck.

Les

DPowers 06-15-2014 08:28 PM

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Welcome. Sounds like a great project.
Here is a link to Tony Smith's truck. He is no longer on the forum, but does some good work.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=382290

TJ's Chevy 06-16-2014 11:00 AM

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Welcome aboard! Looks like a great start! 4X4's are always cool! Have fun! I'm Sub'd. :chevy:

1963c-10 06-16-2014 12:15 PM

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Cool project....can't wait to see more pics and progress!!!

aotte1 06-17-2014 06:55 PM

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Thanks everybody for the support on new projects. Plan is to document current condition and probably ask a lot of questions. Assessing and recording everything before disassembly for now. Kind of cool mud flaps from back then.

aotte1 06-17-2014 07:00 PM

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Dana 44 front axle tag picture. Looks like it has 3:73 axle gears, which was standard for K10s from research.

RANDY COX 06-17-2014 07:36 PM

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yep you don't see many of those tags still on there..

61K10 06-19-2014 12:48 PM

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another one saved!! nice truck.

aotte1 06-22-2014 09:32 PM

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A few more pictures of truck, first the front fender date codes, did they use different numbering? Pictures of the codes stamped in front fenders.

aotte1 06-22-2014 09:39 PM

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some pictures of the seal/weather strip for the fender and inner fender, will get some better pictures when disassembling later.

b.sharp 06-24-2014 02:34 PM

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Les, Glad to see you are finally starting to get into this truck. I still can't make up my mind if I want to build my '65 as a K20 or swb flt lowered truck. I can't even start until I get my canned ham camper done. Truck looks great by the way. I know you have been building that 292. Upload some of those pics when you get a chance. I will checking this one often for updates.

TJ's Chevy 06-24-2014 09:45 PM

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X2 on checking often fer updates! Especially since I heard something about a 292!!!! I have 3...they're awesome engines. :metal:

aotte1 06-24-2014 11:45 PM

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Thanks for the encouragement, plan to get the 292s out next week and our grandson will take apart one of them as his first engine overhaul. The other we will try to start.

FYI , found the following Chevrolet Part Illustration and information manual, nice expanded views of parts/components, along with information like axle ratio codes, etc. I need more review of it and will post more types of data/ information contained.

aotte1 06-25-2014 06:08 PM

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A little more detail on the above catalog content.

b.sharp 06-26-2014 01:22 PM

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Neat book Less, I would like to take a look at the 4x4 pages. I am going to try to adapt my ho52 rear end with brakes from a 14bolt rear, Since you can't find brake parts anymore for the 3/4-1 ton rear ends.

aotte1 06-29-2014 05:24 PM

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Brian,
Sure about looking at book any thing special, I can try to send images to you.

Les

aotte1 06-29-2014 05:38 PM

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Josh and I have been cleaning up space for room to take 64 apart.

Using a new engine stand that is working very nice, below are pictures. Very strong and no engine sag. Also the extra wheel helps, wo/ hindering moving the engine. It is a torin part number T26801. The engine is a 1965, extra 292, that we are going to take apart and save for future part needs.

Les

RANDY COX 06-29-2014 06:16 PM

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Kewl I see a 292. I'll be lookin..

hopped up 06-29-2014 07:41 PM

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Sweet truck! I really want to build a k10

aotte1 06-30-2014 08:56 PM

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Josh and I starting to disassemble an extra 1965, 292 engine purchased used. Seller said the engine was from a low mileage ambulance. So far, the cylinder head is off and the cylinder walls show no signs of ridge wear. Have not looked at a the cylinder walls yet, but quick looks good so far.

Question, the 292 engines typically have a wear ridge at the top of cylinders where rings stop?

Still evaluating engine, and need to make decision on, whether to keep as whole engine or save for parts. Original plan was for it to be a parts engine, however, looks to be in good condition so far. Going to take the oil pan off tomorrow.

What do you think, could the rings still be good?

Les



thanks,
Les

TJ's Chevy 06-30-2014 09:59 PM

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I can still see some milling marks on the cylinder wall...long as there are no cracks or major issues with the block you'll be fine...have it tanked, magnafluxed, and checked for cracks. More then likely a low mileage engine will be fine. :chevy:

RANDY COX 07-01-2014 08:25 AM

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I'm checking in from time to time good to see you making progress.....

aotte1 07-04-2014 08:54 PM

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More pictures on the extra 292 engine, looked at the bottom end, good and bad news. The bearing looked really good for wear and no debris going through them. The pan and oil pickup tube were full of sludge, the pan maybe had two inches of sludge in the bottom. The amount of sludge in the pan does not match the condition of the rest of the engine. Not sure why so much sludge in the pan only, bad oil, lots of idling?

aotte1 07-04-2014 09:02 PM

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some more pictures of the extra trans and bell housing out of the 65 ambulance. The bell housing was at least partially painted the engine color.

aotte1 07-04-2014 09:10 PM

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Pictures of the trans. from ambulance.

cru_zn_29 07-04-2014 09:11 PM

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That's what happens when the oil never gets changed. I bought my first 1964 C10 in 1980 from the original owner with a rod knocking it looked just like that when I pulled apart. The owner said he had never changed the oil just added Raylube when it was low. Original oil filter ( AC) was plugged solid. Raylube was a reclaimed oil that cost 20 cents a quart.

aotte1 07-05-2014 12:36 AM

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Cruzn,

I plan to take motor apart and check/clean it because of all the sludge, along with a little rust on the edge of the cam lobes, it is like little crystals of rust on the edge. Hopefully it can be a std bore engine. Ring seal is a big thing for me, lots of efficiency to be had.

Note: bell housing is hydraulic, even though it is from 1965, vehicle was a military 1 or 2 ton chassis. Also trans had the emergency brake on the end of it.

Les

aotte1 07-06-2014 11:55 AM

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a couple more pictures.

aotte1 07-13-2014 02:03 PM

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This 1965', 292 engines plan has changed, originally was going to be used as spare parts. Person who sold to me said it was a low mileage engine. After removal of cylinder head, feeling good, no ridge at top of cylinder :uhmk:. Turned engine over and removed oil pan :waah: , their is two inches of semi-hard sludge in sump, and pick-up tube covered too. Decision now is to take apart and bake block to remove residuals from 1964 period oils. Also having machine shop map cylinder wall, to see if I can just hone and use new rings.

My downfall is Leo Santucci's book "Chevrolet Inline Six-Cylinder Power Manual" second edition, just a little change here and their.

aotte1 07-13-2014 02:24 PM

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more trans pics, this engine, trans, bell housing is out of a 1965, 1 or 2 ton ambulance, two wheel drive, I think flat nose. That is why it has the hydraulic clutch set up.
Bell housing has same part number as early trucks w/ hydraulic clutch, and 1965 build date code.

aotte1 07-13-2014 02:40 PM

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Sorry about reposting previous pictures, senior moment, trying to do to much:waah:

Les

aotte1 07-13-2014 04:19 PM

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Long term goal is to remove the frame, clean it and paint and move up from their. Currently working on finding a few parts that are missing and making sure everything is working before starting on frame. The front clip is complete, so it is removed and original conditions are being recorded. Plan is to use original bolts/fasteners as much as possible. The following pictures are some of the front clip weather stripping. They are likely not organized well but hope they help report how/where weather stripping was installed.

aotte1 07-13-2014 04:27 PM

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more front clip weather stripping

aotte1 07-13-2014 04:28 PM

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more front clip weather stripping number 3

C@rnut001 07-13-2014 04:35 PM

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This sounds like a good plan for your engine and truck. Keep it up and thanks for updating us.

aotte1 07-13-2014 04:35 PM

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more front clip weather stripping number 4

aotte1 07-13-2014 04:42 PM

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More front clip weather stripping, not real interesting last set, have more pictures with different views if needed.
Les


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