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randy500 03-10-2017 04:47 PM

Door Assembly...the EASY way
 
Been taking apart a bunch of rusty doors lately and had to assemble a couple too. While there are some threads on this process, I didn't find one to be definitive, this one is.
Tool List
3/8 drive #2 and #3 Philips screwdriver bits, available online, harbor freight, Lowes, maybe home depot or sears
Air or electric 3/8 drive impact, I like using my DeWalt cordless driver impact with a 3/8 drive adapter, lots of power and no hose to get in my way.
Combination square, remove the ruler portion and use the ruler to release window sweep clips. This works much better than a screwdriver since its thicker and wider, it also won’t go under the clip, it just pushes it up and as it pushes up it releases the clip.

Disassembly
1. Remove lower rear channel, 2 Philips head machine bolts under door panel, one Philips head machine screw in door jamb above latch.

2. Remove door lock, (makes clearance for the door latch)

3. Remove door latch with handle control and lock rod attached.

4. Remove window inner whiskers and outer rubber wipe, use the ruler portion of a combination, slide it along the lower window opening until you encounter the clip, lower it to get under the clip then push up to release the clip, continue from one end to the other until all are released, use your other hand to pull up on the whisker or rubber sweep to get it released.

5. Slide the window all the way back to the rear till it touches the door

6. Remove the wing window, 3 Philips head screws in the door frame and 2 Philips head machine screws under the door panel, use your impact so you don’t round them out. Tilt the wing window back, then start pulling it up until you’re in the middle of the door frame window opening, rotate the forward pointy part to the inside of the window opening (passenger compartment side) and extract the assembly. (if you extract it from the outer side there is less clearance.)

7. Slide the window forward an inch or so and roll the window up while supporting the upper glass until the window lower channel with the regulator rollers exits the door, then slide the window off the regulator rollers. The window should exit the door frame on the outer side.

8. Remove the window regulator.

Assembly
1. Install regulator

2. Roll up regulator while guiding rollers through window opening until the rollers are outside the window opening an inch or so.

3. Slide the glass on the rollers, outside the window opening from front to rear. Rolle the window down all the way and slide glass to rear as far as it will go.

4. Install the wing window from inside the window opening (passenger compartment side) with wing window pointing towards passenger compartment. When lower channel is far enough in the door, turn the assembly 90 degrees and push if forward to seat in the opening.

5. Install door latch with lock rod and handle control attached as one unit.

6. Install door lock

7. Roll the window all the way up, install the window rear channel, just install the door jamb screw and this time and install it one revolution from finger tight, this allows it to dangle free but not too-free.

8. Roll the window all the way down and slide forward into front channel.

9. Slide the rear run channel weather-stripping down into the door feeding it into the lower rear channel. (You should mark the weather-strip upper length needed prior to doing this so you know when to stop feeding it down.) Ensure the weather-strip is fully seated in the rear channel especially at the very top of the channel.

10. Install the lower rear channel remaining machine screws and tighten them all.

11. Install the inner and outer window sweeps.

Short cuts and why they don’t work and just cause frustration.
1. Not removing the door latch.
If you don’t do this there is not enough room to remove the wing window without forcing it out. If you remove the latch you have enough room to slide the window back far enough so that the wing window has clearance between the window and the welded door support which holds the inner and outer door skins together.

2. Not removing the door lock at all or before removing the door latch.
The door latch is difficult to remove or install with the lock in the way, just take it out. Pry the clip off with a long pry bar against the inner door structure, then retrieve it with flashlight and magnet, grease the clip before installing it will help it slide in.

3. Removing or installing the latch with the handle control and lock rod attached.
The clips for the rods are difficult to maneuver and install or release inside the door, lay it out on the bench and install as one unit to make it easier.

4. Not removing the window sweeps.
You need them removed to get the window lower channel and regulator rollers to clear the window opening to remove the window from the regulator. Removing them also creates clearance for the wing window lower support to clear the opening.

5. Changing the regulator without full door disassembly
Don’t even try to shortcut the process by thinking you can change this without full door disassembly, you will regret it. It is possible but it’s hard to get the 3 rollers in the channels and the wing window interferes with the regulator, its especially bad if it’s a ’72 regulator with the longer shaft, you just cut up your arms trying to save a few steps, its not worth it.

6. The door frame tilts inward therefore I should remove the wing window from the outside of the window opening.
Sound theory but the clearance problem is with the lower screw bracket on the wing window inside of the door, when you do it this way that part has less room inside the door as the inner door has more clearance towards the outer door skin since it curves outward from the door frame.
The clearance to rotate the wing window is increased if you install the wing window from the passenger compartment side of the door frame opening.

Tuff Gong 03-10-2017 05:08 PM

Re: Door Assembly...the EASY way
 
Thank you for posting this.

35boulder 03-10-2017 05:37 PM

Re: Door Assembly...the EASY way
 
I would like to thanks you as well. Good info.

SuperC10Tex 03-10-2017 05:48 PM

Re: Door Assembly...the EASY way
 
Done more doors than I can count!! Randy500, great info, only thing I can add is it is much easier to disassembly and assembly with the door in a horizontal position (flat). Gravity works against you otherwise.....;)

randy500 03-10-2017 05:55 PM

Re: Door Assembly...the EASY way
 
Thanks for the comments guys.
Post up when you use the instructions to say how it worked for you.
If you read it and like it then comment to keep it bumped up for others to use.
These doors can be a pain in the neck to work on.

GASoline71 03-10-2017 06:46 PM

Re: Door Assembly...the EASY way
 
Sweet! Gonna be putting my doors back together in a couple of weeks. :)

Gary

jmader 03-10-2017 06:51 PM

Re: Door Assembly...the EASY way
 
Subscribed

samkost 03-10-2017 07:03 PM

Re: Door Assembly...the EASY way
 
Perfect!:clap::metal:
This couldn't have been posted at a better time Randy.
I am just starting to put the doors back together.
Thanks Randy:chevy:

suville 03-10-2017 10:00 PM

Re: Door Assembly...the EASY way
 
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STAP54 03-10-2017 11:04 PM

Re: Door Assembly...the EASY way
 
I'm with the others...thank you for this write up. Being new to the C10 world, I really hope to learn a lot from you all. It will save time, and hopefully some extra cash! :)

franken 03-11-2017 12:36 AM

Re: Door Assembly...the EASY way
 
I don't mean to be a moron , but reality meets pride, and here we are (ouch on me)...

1. Remove lower rear channel

Whuts that?

There are others...

El Dorado Jim 03-11-2017 02:25 AM

Re: Door Assembly...the EASY way
 
thanks, this will be helpful in the near future when I re-do my door channels and felts and wipes....

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 03-11-2017 03:48 AM

Re: Door Assembly...the EASY way
 
I like it. The ruler idea is great, but too late, I used a hook tool. Honestly, everything was removed cleanly less the sweeps, which I was chucking anyway. Other than that it's a very easy job. LockDoc is who clued me in on how to do it.

Hart_Rod 03-11-2017 09:35 AM

Re: Door Assembly...the EASY way
 
Great write up Randy!

slikside 03-11-2017 10:35 AM

Re: Door Assembly...the EASY way
 
Great write up! Thanks.

Nice road map for this much needed repair on my truck...

bgwss 03-11-2017 10:38 AM

Re: Door Assembly...the EASY way
 
Awesome!

OL SKOOL 03-11-2017 11:58 AM

Re: Door Assembly...the EASY way
 
Thanks Randy I know this will help when she goes back together.It's only been eight years since it came apart and everything is fresh in my mind.

72 tigger 03-11-2017 01:04 PM

Re: Door Assembly...the EASY way
 
Thanks Randy!

towbar 03-11-2017 08:25 PM

Re: Door Assembly...the EASY way
 
Subscribed! great write up. Have the door disassembled on my 72 now so this was perfect timing for me. Good job, thanks!

Getter-Done 03-26-2017 11:00 PM

Re: Door Assembly...the EASY way
 
Thanks Randy
Great guide line to use.
Thanks for sharing.

GR8-68 04-01-2017 01:58 AM

Re: Door Assembly...the EASY way
 
Great guidelines Randy, thank you. I will soon be reassembling my doors and this will certainly help out. :chevy:

feller 04-01-2017 06:37 AM

Re: Door Assembly...the EASY way
 
Totally should have read this the other day lol

custom10nut 04-01-2017 11:40 AM

Re: Door Assembly...the EASY way
 
Thanks for the details.:metal:

randy500 04-01-2017 11:57 AM

Re: Door Assembly...the EASY way
 
Thanks guys, I am making a tool this weekend to remove the door window whiskers....its real simple, a piece of 3/16 flat bar with a notch in it, will make it easy to slide along the upper door to locate the clips, drop a bit to engage, the slot will prevent missing the clip when dropping down. Post a picture when I get it made.

jjzepplin 04-01-2017 12:35 PM

Re: Door Assembly...the EASY way
 
Good write up!


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