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Dieselwrencher 01-11-2012 07:35 PM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
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Originally Posted by madcow75 (Post 5116538)
Is it just me or do you have negative arch on those front leaf springs? I think you may need a set of 5 leaf 1 ton stock leaf springs with that motor.

These are stock springs and that's how they are stock. They're rated for 1400lbs each. Those springs jad negative arch with no engine in them. :lol: You can kind of see it n this pic. That's the only pic I seem to have showing it.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...NSTRUCK011.jpg

Dieselwrencher 01-11-2012 07:36 PM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
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Originally Posted by Mattman2010 (Post 5116547)
Looking good man!

Thanks Matt!

1985-GMC 01-11-2012 09:17 PM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
My K30 came with 9 leafs in the rear with 2 overloads and 4 leafs in the front with just a slight positive arch with or without a 454 sitting in it. It was a cab & chassis model and it also has the camper special badges on the cab so I guess that's why it was so beefed up.

The truck keeps looking better and better man!

Could you have torched the rivets out of that front cross member, slid it forward then re-drilled and bolted it in place?

Dieselwrencher 01-11-2012 09:40 PM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
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Originally Posted by 1985-GMC (Post 5117087)
My K30 came with 9 leafs in the rear with 2 overloads and 4 leafs in the front with just a slight positive arch with or without a 454 sitting in it. It was a cab & chassis model and it also has the camper special badges on the cab so I guess that's why it was so beefed up.

The truck keeps looking better and better man!

Could you have torched the rivets out of that front cross member, slid it forward then re-drilled and bolted it in place?

I was originally going to buy 4 leaf fronts for this. but then I rode in a truck with a BBC and 4 leaf springs. My wife would never drive this thing if it rode like that! So I figured I'd go with the 3 leaf and see what it does. The 3 leaf springs can hold a BBC and a 8' Western snow plow for years, so I think the extra 300lbs of the cummins won't bother them too much.

I thought about that on the front cross member too. But the problem with that is I'd have to put it in front of the steering box bolts and then there goes my support in that area of the frame. That's why I decided to leave it in the original location and modify it.

1985-GMC 01-11-2012 09:53 PM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
Oh ok I'll have to see what you're going to do for your bracing up there.

Dieselwrencher 01-11-2012 10:04 PM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
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Originally Posted by 1985-GMC (Post 5117196)
Oh ok I'll have to see what you're going to do for your bracing up there.

I haven't quite figured it out yet either. :lol:

tecky11 01-11-2012 10:05 PM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
looks pretty damn good ryan

yousesteers 01-11-2012 10:12 PM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 5116818)
These are stock springs and that's how they are stock. They're rated for 1400lbs each. Those springs jad negative arch with no engine in them. :lol: You can kind of see it n this pic. That's the only pic I seem to have showing it.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...NSTRUCK011.jpg

On my Crew with the cummins it originally had a 350 I measured the frame to the floor with the 350 in, then no motor, and the cummins in and there was less than 1inch difference in all 3 measurements and about a 1/4in between the 350 and the cummins it was about 400 lb different by the specs so that less weight than me and one of my buddies sitting in the front seat. I am going to put new springs on but mine the bushing are completely shot

Dieselwrencher 01-12-2012 05:43 PM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
Today I continued on the front cross member. I was making great progress until I ran out of mig wire. :lol: So I cut out templates for the pieces I need to cut out to weld in place. Hopefully tomorrow I'll get it done.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...0/DSC00500.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...0/DSC00501.jpg

Here's a pic of what this truck would look like with big meats. :lol:
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...0/DSC00499.jpg
It was a bad idea, cause it'd look bad azz! :)

rs72z 01-12-2012 11:56 PM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
Your build is coming along nice.

What auto trans would you use on a cummins swap?

tecky11 01-13-2012 12:03 AM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
it does look great :)

Dieselwrencher 01-13-2012 03:28 AM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
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Originally Posted by rs72z (Post 5119780)
Your build is coming along nice.

What auto trans would you use on a cummins swap?

It depends how much money you want to spend really. Ford 4R100's are real tough trannies and work great behind them. However, you'll have about $5k in one before it's done. GM 4L80E's will work too, but you still have to buy an adapter plate and a controller. I like the 47RH's because they can be directly bolted to these engines using a dodge engine plate. You have to use 2 toggle switches or vacuum switches to control over drive and lock up. I'm going to put both on mine and will post up when I do so. I'll have all the good parts in this trans except billet shafts but it'll still be a super strong transmission.

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Originally Posted by tecky11 (Post 5119799)
it does look great :)

Thanks Toby!

tecky11 01-13-2012 09:38 AM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
once we both get our projects done will have to play tug o war :0 and thank you for the incenteive to keep going ryan

Dieselwrencher 01-13-2012 02:53 PM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tecky11 (Post 5120231)
once we both get our projects done will have to play tug o war :0 and thank you for the incenteive to keep going ryan

Tug o war is done on a 300ft track! I used to hook trucks all the time. It's not all about power for sure. 2wd trucks don't stand a chance most times. :lol:

Dieselwrencher 01-18-2012 03:47 AM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
Over the weekend I didn't get as much done as I would have liked to. I had to make some repairs to the shop, and we had some family stuff to attend to. Here's what I've gotten done lately.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...0/DSC00504.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...0/DSC00503.jpg

I was curious how the turbo was going to fit over there and here is what it looks like with a S362 on it. I plan on running a HX35W as long as the turbo is rebuild-able.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...0/DSC00502.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...0/DSC00505.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...0/DSC00506.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...0/DSC00507.jpg

Dieselwrencher 01-19-2012 04:05 PM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
Made some progress this morning on building the engine cross member. Still have a lot left to do but it's a start.
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...0/DSC00509.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...0/DSC00508.jpg

The cross member will be able to be removed with the engine mounts able to stay in the frame that way if you ever need to remove the oil pan you can do so without removing the engine.

joe231 01-19-2012 04:22 PM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
Nice!
That's using your noggin'!!

I wish more auto engineers would :banghead: :lol:
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Mattman2010 01-20-2012 07:02 PM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
Looking good Ryan!

1985-GMC 01-20-2012 08:58 PM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
Great work there Ryan!

Im really surprised at how much room you have between the diff and oil pan because everyone else that talks about doing this swap says that you HAVE TO have at least 4" of lift.

Dieselwrencher 01-20-2012 10:08 PM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
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Originally Posted by 1985-GMC (Post 5135557)
Great work there Ryan!

Im really surprised at how much room you have between the diff and oil pan because everyone else that talks about doing this swap says that you HAVE TO have at least 4" of lift.

This truck has technically 4" of lift due to the 4"x4" square tubing inbetween the frame and front spring mounts. It may equal out to 2 1/2-3" with stock shackle bars though. It was pretty tight and took a while to get the engine right where I wanted it.

fakerwade 01-25-2012 11:42 PM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
Looking good Ryan!! :devil: (nice welds!)

Dieselwrencher 01-26-2012 12:52 AM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fakerwade (Post 5146318)
Looking good Ryan!! :devil: (nice welds!)

Thanks Wade!

Rodzzilla 01-28-2012 11:37 AM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
Looking Good, Ryan!

STOCKISH 02-05-2012 03:03 PM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
Good work man, cant wait to get back on my CCSB project.

STOCKISH 02-06-2012 10:39 PM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
Wait, wait, wait. A VE pumped 24 Valve! I dont know how I missed that. Thats freakin cool! I need a Cummins/auto combo something bad! Nice work man.

Got Smoke? 02-07-2012 12:22 AM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
I know I probably over looked it, but what style motor mount is the one bolted to the block on the passenger side?

Ex, I know that's a 94-02 style mount on the drivers side because its the same kind on my 97 Dodge CTD.

6lcummins 02-07-2012 02:30 AM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
Driver side is 2nd gen 12v and passenger side is 24V if I remember right.
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Dieselwrencher 03-13-2012 03:12 PM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
No big progress, but I did manage to get a HX40W for this truck!

6lcummins 03-13-2012 04:32 PM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 5249422)
No big progress, but I did manage to get a HX40W for this truck!

You're welcome....RICHARD....:bann:

Dieselwrencher 03-14-2012 02:53 AM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
:lol:

spudz 06-12-2012 07:04 PM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
for sale????

Dieselwrencher 06-12-2012 11:50 PM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
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Originally Posted by spudz (Post 5431260)
for sale????

I put it up for sale but no one has been serious. I'm sourcing a different front clip and I might get the truck put together in August. We'll have to see.

Mattman2010 06-13-2012 08:30 PM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 5431797)
I put it up for sale but no one has been serious. I'm sourcing a different front clip and I might get the truck put together in August. We'll have to see.

You can bring it down when you bring my drive train :lol:, it seems like you dont have enough storage as it is so ill store it for you!

slammed427 06-25-2012 07:04 PM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
I hope you finish it! I'm along for the ride.
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Dieselwrencher 06-25-2012 08:57 PM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattman2010 (Post 5433219)
You can bring it down when you bring my drive train :lol:, it seems like you dont have enough storage as it is so ill store it for you!

If I brought it to you, I'd be losing the ability to store stuff in the cab of it. Ha Ha!

Quote:

Originally Posted by slammed427 (Post 5454210)
I hope you finish it! I'm along for the ride.
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Thanks. I more than likely will. I've had some interest and one good offer, but I couldn't swing ther dough to complete his end of the trade.

I have a triple billet Goerend converter I need to get restalled, so I'll just need about $1200 to buy most of the parts to rebuild the trans. Then drive shafts and so on. This week I'm going to go get a 73-79 front clip for it. I need more hours in a day. :lol:

Mattman2010 06-25-2012 09:15 PM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 5454416)
If I brought it to you, I'd be losing the ability to store stuff in the cab of it. Ha Ha!

I won't mind extra parts laying around. :lol: just bring all it's parts and I'll finish it for you and maybe drive it for a couple months to make sure it works. :lol: :metal:
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Dieselwrencher 06-25-2012 09:26 PM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattman2010 (Post 5454454)
I won't mind extra parts laying around. :lol: just bring all it's parts and I'll finish it for you and maybe drive it for a couple months to make sure it works. :lol: :metal:
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Will tires be legal on the streets when you get it done? :mm:

Mattman2010 06-25-2012 09:33 PM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 5454491)
Will tires be legal on the streets when you get it done? :mm:

We don't have inspections so no one will know! Your half way done with the motor swap. My project is slow cause I've been sending my money to some guy in Iowa. This way I wouldn't have to send the money to you, I just put it into your truck for you.:lol:
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Dieselwrencher 07-02-2012 03:34 PM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
This weekend I picked up a 73-79 front clip for this truck. I'm going to gather trans parts for it and I'm sending my torque converter in to get restalled. I'd like to get this truck drivable before Septmeber. Oh boy. :lol:

Mattman2010 07-02-2012 04:37 PM

Re: Project: B.A.D. 1976 K30 CCLB
 
You have to many projects. You keep jumping between them all. :lol:
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