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Ace5n85 01-27-2015 08:09 PM

Bagged and laying body. My 81 C-10 build.
 
I recently picked up an 81 c10. It's been a while since I built a truck since I've been doing the hot rod thing for a few years. This came up cheap and I couldn't say no. It will be for sale all day, every day. Plan is for it to be bagged, on the ground and daily driver capable, even though it's going to split that duty with my other cars until someone buys it.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...pstqgawze4.jpg

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Ace5n85 01-27-2015 08:36 PM

Re: 81 C-10 build.
 
Out with the old 250. It wasn't running right, compression test shows no pressure on one cylinder.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...psbdaqiae4.jpg

Looks like this might be a problem.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...psgxprvajr.jpg

Ace5n85 01-27-2015 08:46 PM

Re: 81 C-10 build.
 
Took the springs out and torched off the shackle hangers. Gotta see how low she can go as she sits.

Not even close!

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1qqtx1mq.jpg

My buddy torched the bottom of the frame off so the body is able to meet the pavement

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...psedm9qv5j.jpg

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Installed 2.5" McGaugheys spindles. They went on very well and are very beefy at nearly 25 pounds each.

Before

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...psrhqpszuc.jpg

After, a arms on the ground.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...psqheiomn3.jpg

Ace5n85 01-27-2015 08:59 PM

Re: 81 C-10 build.
 
Things are about to get serious. 5" front frame Z to let the frame lay with 31" tires (approx.). I'm almost 31 and the days of rubber band tires are behind me. Don't need 31s for sure but it'll sure be nice for 24 inch wheels to be an option.

Bam! Don't mind the mess. Cars get built in this garage and cars leak all kinds of fluids.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...psozyzx5we.jpg

When I'm done I want two things for the frame.
1. It to pretty closely mimic the contour of the floor/firewall transition.
2. It to look as close to a factory frame as possible.
Here goes nothing with some templates and 1/8" plate.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...psg81kgoka.jpg

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Bottom obviously still needs done and the inside needs welded but it should do what I wanted it to do.

Camber ain't half bad either for being on the ground.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...psb5vegbdw.jpg

tinydb84 01-27-2015 09:04 PM

Re: 81 C-10 build.
 
And I thought my 4'' Z was a lot. Good start!

Ace5n85 01-27-2015 09:17 PM

Re: 81 C-10 build.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinydb84 (Post 7022447)
And I thought my 4'' Z was a lot. Good start!

Thanks! Like my buddies dad always says, "if some is good, more is better and too much is just enough."

83swb 01-27-2015 11:02 PM

Re: 81 C-10 build.
 
Is that the original paint? Looks awesome. Fab work looks well done too.

Ace5n85 01-27-2015 11:20 PM

Re: 81 C-10 build.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 83swb (Post 7022685)
Is that the original paint? Looks awesome. Fab work looks well done too.

It is not. Was brown then orange then tan (which you can still see) and then green. The green is super dry now and flakes off with my hand like my palms are 36 grit. Bummer. That's ok. Makes the original/paint job decision easier.

stepside83 01-28-2015 05:17 PM

Re: 81 C-10 build.
 
this is a good start keep good work going

Ace5n85 01-29-2015 01:00 AM

Re: 81 C-10 build.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stepside83 (Post 7023696)
this is a good start keep good work going

Thanks. I'll be back at it tomorrow night hopefully. Definitely all weekend. Hope to get the front done and the back started by end of day Sunday.

Ace5n85 02-05-2015 05:11 PM

Re: Bagged and laying body. My 81 C-10 build.
 
Updates from last weekend. Got the rest of the front frame welded up and ground down pretty smooth.

Some welds. Not too bad. Dont mind the double/triple passes, they're only there so fill in some mild undercut so its smooth when ground down.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...psijlzo5na.jpg

Ground down most of the way. Pretty close to looking like it could have come that way.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...psv44klgcp.jpg

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Ace5n85 02-09-2015 09:17 PM

Re: Bagged and laying body. My 81 C-10 build.
 
Got the frame smoothed out a little more and welded the bottom of the new frame section on. It's 1/4" for dragging purposes. Not that we'd ever do anything like that.

Sorry for the crap pic

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...psold3bylu.jpg

Ace5n85 02-15-2015 09:01 PM

Re: Bagged and laying body. My 81 C-10 build.
 
Had some time to get the frame Z and section job done. Got the cab in place. I'll tell ya what, there are not too many things better than seeing the fruits of your labor for the first time. Well, anyways, here ya go. Whatcha think?

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...pskuyopq8c.jpg

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And THIS is why I took the time to do this. Pinch weld ON THE GROUND.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...psmjvfecy7.jpg

Ace5n85 03-24-2015 11:34 AM

Re: Bagged and laying body. My 81 C-10 build.
 
Several updates today. I have been working on this thing,just havent had the time to post it all.

Started with the back half of the frame. Hopefully, with pictures, I can explain this without being a rambling idiot. A simple c-notch would have been fine, but it introduced several other problems: The bed would then need "towers" made to support it, its more fab time making that stuff and welding it in and mostly, i think they're kind of ugly. So I did a little math and came up with another way. I needed to raise the bed and shorten it at the same time. I made cuts on the frame at a 30 degree angle, this allowed me to take the drivers side cutout and use it for the passenger side, and visa versa.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...psmufjb3tb.jpg

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This will allow me to clear the rear axle and maintain the factory frame top to support the bed.

Next thing up was removing the useless leaf springs for some 2x2 box.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...psctvw3ibn.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...pshlppk86a.jpg

No fancy tools for me. A hole saw and a little patience does just fine

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http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...psvtgpe3og.jpg

Here's the plan for the brackets. Can't take credit for these, they're Thorbeke Bros. Dudes make quality stuff and have always been good to me.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8so8zr3m.jpg

Money shot. On the ground.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...ps55wd65da.jpg

Ace5n85 03-24-2015 12:08 PM

Re: Bagged and laying body. My 81 C-10 build.
 
I'm usually a longbed guy. I've owned a few of them and they're definitely useful, the problem is, well, they're LONG.

This aint gonna cut it.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...psy0gwyxul.jpg

Time to cut the bed apart. The new bedsides would cost me 910 bucks to get to my door, and I have more time than I do money.

Remove the inside of the bed. Theyll be shortened vertically later, since simply raising the bed and rebolting it looks unfinished to me.

Now for the scary part. Needed to take 14 inches out of the front to match a shortbed. Like this.

MEASURE MEASURE MEASURE. The straighter the cut the less prep time before welding.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...psrb24avef.jpg

I didnt match the stake pocket cut yet because I wanted to measure and cut after I could get the exact dimensions.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8lhczumu.jpg

BAM

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Magnets and panel clamps showed me that my gap was suitable for welding. These clamps DID NOT stay there during welding, they just allowed me to see the uniformity of the gap before I welded it and couldn't adjust anything.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...psyxi1pecp.jpg

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Got out the Miller Syncrowave 210. Ran it at 36 amps. I only weld an inch or two at a time and finish it before moving to the next piece. A friend of mine does this method for a living and it works extremely well for him.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...psuxdphoeo.jpg

Flap disc on a grinder and a LOT of vixen file work.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...psvpvvwjan.jpg

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A little bit of undercut but not too bad for my first time welding body panels.

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...psdff2umoi.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...psuaei58it.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...pszi3yzg3n.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...psyvckv5dy.jpg

THIS LOOKS SO MUCH BETTER!

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...psbbaxmymt.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...psoatdayz9.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...pswzlijsxz.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...psufkgpe2n.jpg

Well, that's where we're at so far. I think the bed came out awesome, especially considering this is the first sheet metal I've welded that wasn't practice scrap. A skim of body filler and itll be fine.

dragn91 03-24-2015 12:28 PM

Re: Bagged and laying body. My 81 C-10 build.
 
Looks good but are you gonna shorten the back portion of the bed to match a regular shortbed? Looks a little off having the back long and front short. I think it's 4 or 6 inch different in there rear portion short vs long bed there's lots of threads on it from the crew cab guys

Ace5n85 03-24-2015 12:36 PM

Re: Bagged and laying body. My 81 C-10 build.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dragn91 (Post 7104013)
Looks good but are you gonna shorten the back portion of the bed to match a regular shortbed? Looks a little off having the back long and front short. I think it's 4 or 6 inch different in there rear portion short vs long bed there's lots of threads on it from the crew cab guys

Good eye! Yes it will get shortened also. You're right it needs about 6 inches cut out. The temptation to see it with the front shorter was to great. Haha. Also, the fronts are easier to do since they have a bend right in front of the cut. The back will be harder to keep from warping,so I'll tackle that after I use the other side as easy practice.

tinydb84 03-24-2015 03:41 PM

Re: Bagged and laying body. My 81 C-10 build.
 
Dude! That is exactly how I want to do my bed. I am going to make a short long bed or "shlong" bed (sorry couldn't help it lol). I like the idea of raising the frame and played with it before deciding to use a normal notch (when I get around to it).

After seeing that side shot I am definitely going to do it. Wanna come over and do it for me? Whats a three hour flight between internet strangers....(jk)

Ace5n85 03-24-2015 04:09 PM

Re: Bagged and laying body. My 81 C-10 build.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinydb84 (Post 7104256)
Dude! That is exactly how I want to do my bed. I am going to make a short long bed or "shlong" bed (sorry couldn't help it lol). I like the idea of raising the frame and played with it before deciding to use a normal notch (when I get around to it).

After seeing that side shot I am definitely going to do it. Wanna come over and do it for me? Whats a three hour flight between internet strangers....(jk)

Not gonna lie, "shlong bed" made me laugh. Apparently I'm still 13. And as ****ty as its been in PA, I'd be all over an all expenses paid trip for two to SD. It's all expenses paid right?! HAHA. Watch the thread for more pics of the inside and back. Maybe u can learn from my mistakes. Let me know if u have any questions during your "shlong bed"

Justin@EntropyRad 03-24-2015 04:30 PM

Re: Bagged and laying body. My 81 C-10 build.
 
the 2x2 in place of the leafs is a new one for me...killer setup though

Ace5n85 03-24-2015 04:57 PM

Re: Bagged and laying body. My 81 C-10 build.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin@EntropyRad (Post 7104328)
the 2x2 in place of the leafs is a new one for me...killer setup though

Thanks man. It's a hot rod setup I've seen. A panhard bar or wishbone and it'll work well for a cruiser. And I could make it static in an hour if need be (cops, inspection, etc.)

dragn91 03-24-2015 07:27 PM

Re: Bagged and laying body. My 81 C-10 build.
 
Ok I gotta ask what's the 32-34ish looking frame/quarter panel in the background of the one pic. If you got a cool truck and a 32-34 I'm gonna be really jelous. I just got a couple a's and a hudson and my junker crew cab

tinydb84 03-24-2015 07:31 PM

Re: Bagged and laying body. My 81 C-10 build.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin@EntropyRad (Post 7104328)
the 2x2 in place of the leafs is a new one for me...killer setup though

It is known as a 2 link. Usually you see the bars under the axle instead of on top but it serves the same purpose. Its not the best for articulating and pinion angles but if you are only airing it down when parking it shouldn't be a problem.

Ace5n85 03-24-2015 07:43 PM

Re: Bagged and laying body. My 81 C-10 build.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinydb84 (Post 7104597)
It is known as a 2 link. Usually you see the bars under the axle instead of on top but it serves the same purpose. Its not the best for articulating and pinion angles but if you are only airing it down when parking it shouldn't be a problem.

Bingo! The leaf spring mounts and the hangers should give me plenty of adjustment to find the sweet spot. You're right tho, Def not for articulation.

Ace5n85 03-24-2015 07:46 PM

Re: Bagged and laying body. My 81 C-10 build.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dragn91 (Post 7104586)
Ok I gotta ask what's the 32-34ish looking frame/quarter panel in the background of the one pic. If you got a cool truck and a 32-34 I'm gonna be really jelous. I just got a couple a's and a hudson and my junker crew cab

Its a pinched 32 frame and a 30 Model a coupe. Good eye man. Itll get a Caddy 331 and a Muncie. Ford 9 inch. 4 inch chop and some other stuff. My instagram is @zackover if u wanna check it out. Should go well w the truck (until the truck sells) and my 63 plymouth belvedere


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