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1972RedNeck 08-02-2011 05:36 PM

Drum Vs. Disc
 
It seems to be very common for people to swap drum brakes to disc brakes. Why?

What is the advantage of disc brakes? I would swap from disc to drum before I swapped drum to disc (although all of my vehicles are 4 wheel drive).

IMHO, drum brakes take WAY less pressure to stop. The only time I would rather have discs, is when the time comes for a brake job.

69sixpackbee 08-02-2011 05:40 PM

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Wait 'till you get 'em wet...then you'll know why :)

long69 08-02-2011 05:49 PM

Re: Drum Vs. Disc
 
i won't be swapping to disc's until i need performance brakes. my drums a plenty good enough- i don't drive canyons, steep grades , in down-pours or heavy duty stop and go driving and those are the conditions where disc would be nice to have. as they are my power drums will stop on a dime with change to boot, just don't try to break a dollar. meaning that you only get so many crisp stops before they fade.

1972RedNeck 08-02-2011 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 69 1/2 Six Pack Bee (Post 4824314)
Wait 'till you get 'em wet...then you'll know why :)

When ever I cross a creek (pronounced crick), I just ride 'em for a few feet.

If your booster ever goes bad, drums are way easier to stop with (from my observations on similar vehicles, drums always take less pedal pressure).

treveiger 08-02-2011 06:01 PM

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I know a guy with a 71 nova with a healthy 454 with a pro charger bolted to it an as of right now he has around 450whp he "thinks" an once tuned he's hoping to have 700 an he has all drum breaks so must not be to hard to stop:lol:
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ProStreet68SB 08-02-2011 06:12 PM

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Less heat, more reliability. Stops faster. Less parts to fail.

ed2552 08-02-2011 06:23 PM

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Discs have better clamping power and less fade under hard stopping, plus they're much easier to work on.

69sixpackbee 08-02-2011 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by treveiger (Post 4824357)
I know a guy with a 71 nova with a healthy 454 with a pro charger bolted to it an as of right now he has around 450whp he "thinks" an once tuned he's hoping to have 700 an he has all drum breaks so must not be to hard to stop:lol:
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Yeah, Novas weigh what? about a hundred-pounds too. :(

trkfrk 08-02-2011 06:32 PM

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Before you can appreciate the difference between drum and disc brakes, you have to understand the common principles that both systems use when stopping a car: friction and heat. By applying resistance, or friction, to a turning wheel, a vehicle's brakes cause the wheel to slow down and eventually stop, creating heat as a byproduct. The rate at which a wheel can be slowed depends on several factors including vehicle weight, braking force and total braking surface area. It also depends heavily on how well a brake system converts wheel movement into heat (by way of friction) and, subsequently, how quickly this heat is removed from the brake components. This is where the difference between drum brakes and disc brakes becomes pronounced.

406 Q-ship 08-02-2011 06:41 PM

Re: Drum Vs. Disc
 
Drum brake fade...bad. I went through an intersection in a 69 GTO cause all the pedal pressure in the world was not gonna stop that thing in the distance. How often does a vacuum booster fail, brakes get hot alot more than booster failure. Disc brakes is the first modification on any drum brake vehicle, car or truck. Once you have been in a bad place with drums fading, you'll dump them soooooooo fast.

Monty 08-02-2011 06:49 PM

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i friggin' HATE front drums. seems like they always dive left or right on a hard stop.

i'm ok with rear drums. my suburban build is getting front disc (GM dana 60) rear drums (13"x 3.5", 14 bolt) pumped up by a Hydroboost.

Jeffs70 08-02-2011 07:00 PM

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every time I Have had drum breaks on these trucks and going down a steep inclined road and then have to stop at a stop sign well guess what a few weeks later the drums are shot and have to get them turned again. this even happens when trying to stop even at slow speeds. even the pads get a slick coat on them that causes it harder to stop after time.

while with disc brakes i have never had this problem. seems the heat is just a bit different from one to the other. disc brakes are just way better all around IMO.

Daddy Brim 08-02-2011 07:32 PM

Re: Drum Vs. Disc
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by treveiger (Post 4824357)
I know a guy with a 71 nova with a healthy 454 with a pro charger bolted to it an as of right now he has around 450whp he "thinks" an once tuned he's hoping to have 700 an he has all drum breaks so must not be to hard to stop:lol:
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My 68 Nova had drum brakes and a very healthy 396. You could not stop it if you had to, disk are the only way to go.

fastwillie 696969 08-02-2011 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ed2552 (Post 4824385)
Discs have better clamping power and less fade under hard stopping, plus they're much easier to work on.

i like working on drums brakes myself, slapping pads on the front disc even a cave man do that

ProStreet68SB 08-02-2011 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by fastwillie 696969 (Post 4824500)
i like working on drums brakes myself, slapping pads on the front disc even a cave man do that

Drums arent exactly rocket science, so dont pat yourself on the back to much. ;)

Hubscrub 08-02-2011 09:24 PM

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:chevy:if thats what you like then it's fine by me, my dads 67 is still running all drums/they drove them for years that way;)

fastwillie 696969 08-02-2011 09:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ProStreet68SB (Post 4824549)
Drums arent exactly rocket science, so dont pat yourself on the back to much. ;)

i been certified by gm and ford rocket program for over 20 yrs LOL ;)

truckster 08-02-2011 10:15 PM

Re: Drum Vs. Disc
 
In mountain country brake fade is a big deal. It doesn't take long for drum brakes to get hot enough that stopping with them gets scary. My 70 had drums and my 72 has disks. There's a world of difference between them.

Longhorn Man 08-02-2011 10:19 PM

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drums have advantages, but they are far and few between.
I'm getting ready to convert my one ton to disks in the front.

mrein3 08-02-2011 10:24 PM

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I look at it this way. In this world of lawyers and sue happy public, what are ALL the car manufacturers putting on the front and in lots of cases the back of new cars?

If drums were that great, wouldn't they still be putting them on new cars?

My 72 Chevelle was factory manual drums when I bought it. You get one hard stop then you're done for the day. I swapped in a set of disk brakes out of a Monte and now can stop when I want/need to.

If I drove in an area with hills and bought an old truck with drums, the first thing I'd do is put in disk brakes. If I pulled anything and ended up with a truck or car with front drums I'd make it disk brakes quick. If not for you and your loved ones in your cab with you, think of the poor sap in the Volkswagon that stopped short in front of you.

ChevLoRay 08-02-2011 10:41 PM

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I knew a guy before I joined the USAF, back in '66-7. He bought a '63 Dodge Dart 2-dr sedan from the guy who had built it...with a Chrysler 383. Still had the stock rear end and brakes all the way around. Rear ends lasted a couple of weeks. Brakes were usually gone in three weeks. 8-inch drum brakes with that kind of horsepower is dumb thing to do. But, what a ride!

I hate adjusting drum brakes. When you build a set, and you have access to some tools in a shop, it may be easier to get the arced, and then after measuring the ID of the drum, adjusting the shoes to fit. When the drum is on the vehicle and has been for a while, the adjusters get funky with brake dust and rust, and don't want to turn very easily. If you have it on a rack, that's one thing. But, if you're on a creeper and it is on a set of stands, it's not much fun. I don't recall ever having to adjust my disc brakes.

jtp67-72 08-02-2011 10:42 PM

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^^^^^ x2

69heavychevy 08-02-2011 10:50 PM

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thats like saying carbs are better than fuel injection...
theres a reason why engineers started designing vehicles with disk brakes, if your happy with all drums and really believe they're that much better then bless your heart :)

N2TRUX 08-02-2011 11:43 PM

Re: Drum Vs. Disc
 
What I want to know is why we have to have threads like this every so often. Seriously, does the advantage of modern technology need to be explained?

leddzepp 08-02-2011 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by N2TRUX (Post 4825021)
What I want to know is why we have to have threads like this every so often. Seriously, does the advantage of modern technology need to be explained?

I couldn't agree more.


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