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factorystock 08-17-2019 02:44 PM

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This thread will compliment the hubcap thread we already have. Post photos of period correct 60-66 truck wheels, both standard and optional, singles or duals, with application and size if known. I doubt we'll get many NOS wheels in this thread, but USED will do, mounted on tires is fine. I'll start with the optional 16" 6 lug bump wheel. Introduced between '61-'62 and used up to '70 on 10 series.

oem4me 08-18-2019 05:24 PM

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Factorystock, this thread you've started is a much needed thing. Unfortunately, there are relatively few members here that can contribute good info on the available wheel options for our trucks, especially when it comes to the dates of introduction or being phased out. Unlike hubcap application which correlates to specific model year and series, a given wheel might have been used before or after our generation as well.
I would love see a comprehensive break-down of standard and optional wheels, when they were available, and for what intended purpose, but I think only you, 60-66, and a couple others are capable of adding much. Maybe I'm wrong. I really hope I am.

Mike1965 08-22-2019 03:58 PM

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I have a full set (including spare) of the standard 17.5" x 5.25" 8 lug clip style wheels for the 3/4 ton trucks. I don't know much about the year they were introduced or how long they were used.

1966 K10 08-22-2019 05:37 PM

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I got these back in the day as cheap 8 inch rims for a 4x4. Not sure on the exact dates available but was told by the old man at the yard they were found on 55-67 trucks mainly camper specials on the later years.

16.5x8.25

yote1234 08-22-2019 05:48 PM

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Interesting, watching

factorystock 08-22-2019 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike1965 (Post 8580352)
the standard 17.5" x 5.25" 8 lug clip style wheels for the 3/4 ton trucks. I don't know much

Thanks for sharing Mike1965. Correct, the 17.5" 8 lug solid wheel was the standard wheel for C 20 and C 30 series pickups from 1960 thru 1968.

factorystock 08-22-2019 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 1966 K10 (Post 8580390)
years.

16.5x8.25

Thanks for sharing 1966 K10. Yes, the 16.5" wheel was an aftermarket rim introduced in 1963 and was available as a special order option from GM up to 1966. Became a standard option in '67 and '68. Popular with 4x4's and camper pickups during the 60's.

Mike1965 08-22-2019 11:13 PM

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I also picked up a set not too long ago of "Widow Makers". These are 16" rim and they are the Firestone wheels and also have original Firestone Bias Ply tires on them.

factorystock 08-23-2019 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike1965 (Post 8580544)
I also picked up a set not too long ago of "Widow Makers". These are 16" rim and they are the Firestone wheels and also have original Firestone Bias Ply tires on them.

Your bump style 16" 8 lug was introduced in '69, so that one is not period correct for 60-66. The period correct 16'' 8 lug is shown in this photo and was introduced in '65 and used up to '68 20 and 30 series. It is a 2 piece lock ring style and has clips.

factorystock 08-23-2019 10:54 PM

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Here is the standard 15'' 6 lug wheel used on 10 series, introduced between '61-'62 and used up to '70. Note 3 bumps for hubcap retention and gloss in the original factory applied paint ( it was the spare ). The larger 8 lug was the optional 19.5" solid wheel available on 20 and 30 series from 1960 thru 1968. The last photo is another standard '60-'68 C20-C30 17.5" solid with tire ( same rim Mike1965 added in post #3 ).An angled shot shows the offset ( bulge where hubcap attaches to ) built into these rims. Compare this bulge to newer bump type rims which are much flatter. You'll notice a pattern, 1968 was the last year for the clip type wheels.

f66 08-25-2019 09:27 PM

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I am attaching pictures of my 16 inch split rim wheels. The wheels are off of a 1966 custom camper. From my initial inspection of the 5 wheels with the truck, I believe these to be original to the truck, and have original finishes. Would be interested in comments.

The lock rings are silver, and stamped:
GYP60161S (MAKERS STAMP) 66 (SIDEWAYS) 6K

The wheels are painted Saddle body color. Looking at the wheels with out tires, looks like the wheels painted black first, then shot body color only on the front face.
So far the only stamps on the wheel I have found is KELSEY HAYES USA by the valve stem hole.

Frank

60-66 08-26-2019 07:36 PM

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[QUOTE=factorystock;8581031]Here is the standard 15'' 6 lug wheel used on 10 series, introduced between '61-'62 and used up to '70. Note 3 bumps for hubcap retention and gloss in the original factory applied paint ( it was the spare ).

Factory Stock , is the 15 inch wheel in post 10 a 5 inch wide or 5 1/2 wide ? It looks like a 5 1/2 to me , it would have the smaller valve stem hole and a bead lock built into the rim. That would make the rim a 1965-1966 rim. Might want to check the date and other aspects of the rim to confirm.

60-66 08-26-2019 07:40 PM

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Did someone say " NOS RIMS" ? More to come.

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60-66 08-27-2019 02:27 PM

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Heres a brief description of 1960-1966 15 inch wheels.

Starting with 1960 and two different styles of rims for that year. One is a Kelsey Hayes , the other is an NT wheel for Norris Technology's. Both have no bead lock , Both have different center hub profile. Bead lock 15 inch rims started around 1964-1965. 5/8 valve stem hole and 3 hubcap clips and the size is 15x5 . They also have 4 nubs around the OUTER edge for full wheel covers.

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1961 , the introduction of the 3 nub 15x5 , I only have this one style NT wheel to show off my brothers 61 shorty. It is dated 1961 but for some reason still has the 4 outer rim nubs for full wheel covers. Possibly an early design. I have seen dated 1961 wheels without the 4 nubs. Not to be confused with the 3 nubs for Dog Dish style hubcaps.

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1962-1963-1964 Wheels. Still 15x5 width, 5/8 valve stem hole, 3 nubs ,no bead lock. Kelsey hays style. Notice all of these wheels in this post are dated although Im missing 62.
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1965 and 1966 wheels. Here starts the bead lock rim AND the 15x5.5 NT and 15x5 1/2 KH markings AND the smaller Valve stem hole of 1/2 inch as compared to the 5/8 hole for 1960-1964 rims .I do believe theres some overlap with 1964 on this style rim.

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This last picture , my thumb is pointing to a 1963 NO bead lock edge, on the far left 1966 rim you can see the indentation of the 65-66 bead lock rim.

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Theres still more details Id like to add and other versions to add to this group of 15 inch wheels but I just don't have the time at the moment. I have the part numbers to go with these , will add at a later date. 16s will be next. Note on 16 inch and up wheels , they all had the larger 5/8 valve stem hole.

factorystock 08-27-2019 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by factorystock (Post 8581031)

Factory Stock , is the 15 inch wheel in post 10 a 5 inch wide or 5 1/2 wide ? It looks like a 5 1/2 to me

Correct, it is 5 1/2 wide and does have the GM and NT stamp visible. I assume the 15" 6 lug wheel is the only wheel that came in 2 widths? Thanks for your fantastic contributions and detailed information to make this thread rival the hubcap thread. I find the '60 series 10 wheels interesting. It appears these '60 wheels will accept the newer '62-'66 7 5/8" hubcap. Your knowledge is very helpful in unraveling the mysteries of the different designs used.

factorystock 09-01-2019 11:33 AM

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These are 15" 3 piece 8 lug wheels used between '60 and '65 20 series. Unfortunately, they were not strong enough for fully loaded vehicles and were recalled in the late 60's. GM replaced these 3 piece 15" wheels with 2 piece 15" wheels free of charge. (photo courtesy of KillerBee)

oem4me 09-01-2019 12:33 PM

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More multi-piece wheels here. Not sure on the dates of introduction or extinction, but these 17" eight lug wheels are interesting in that when fitted with 7.50-17 tires, the overall diameter is equal to the giant 19.5 wheels with 8R19.5 tires.

factorystock 09-01-2019 09:19 PM

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Thanks for posting oem4me. Yes, those are the optional, and very heavy duty 3 piece 17" 8 lug with the correct hub profile for '60 thru '68 20 and 30 series. And yes, they are large. It seems your '62 keeps improving with time of ownership, IMO, its very hard to beat that survivor look!

aerotruk63 09-03-2019 04:57 PM

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aerotruk63 09-03-2019 04:58 PM

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Thank you for creating this thread factorystock.

60-66 09-04-2019 03:00 PM

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16 inch wheels. Starting with 1960 is this wheel , 6 lug 16x5 , 5/8 valve stem hole, 3 clips GM stamped Kelsey Hayes. This wheel is GM part number 3715441 . This wheel was in use since 1954 to 1962 but if you look in other books it actually made it into early 63 production under another number 2324150 , Same exact wheel just a GMC part number used also by Chevrolet. In these pictures is a mix of NOS and used 16s all dated from 1957-1967 . The 1967s would be considered "over the counter" replacements but there are no outer differences in those so they are fine for a restoration.
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Heres the 1963-1969 wheels in 16x5 , 6 lug 16x5 , 5/8 valve stem hole, 3 Nub, GM stamped , Kelsey Hayes wheels. This one is dated 1966. This wheel is GM part number 2440830 and unlike the 15 inch wheels , they never used a bead lock stamping in the outer edge of the rim at least through 1968 . Another part number 3974200 was used but this number began use in 1970.

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Here are the 17.5x5.25 six lug wheels. 6 lug, 6 clip 5/8 valve stem GM and KH stamped ,GM Part number 2394627 . This wheel with this part number and profile was only used from 1960-1968 from what I can find. The big difference from 1959 and earlier 17.5s is a lower profile center hub was used on the early wheels. The red primered one is dated 1966 .

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factorystock 09-07-2019 02:29 PM

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Excellent in depth info and photos of these factory wheels 60-66. You pulled off another milestone in educating the masses of GM truck history! This is the stuff that is not in coffee table books. IMO, those 6 lug 17.5's are the rarest of the rare wheels out there. It would be very difficult to tell apart a longbed '64-'66 1/2 ton with 17.5's and a '64-'66 3/4 ton with 17.5's ( with hubcaps of course ) without peeking at the emblems ( erase that for GMC ) or crawling under vehicle to look at rear axle.

60-66 09-08-2019 11:19 AM

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Thank you Factory stock. Heres an interesting truck. 1964 short stepside 2 wheel drive with the 5 factory 17.5 6 lug wheels and hubcaps. Guy was selling the truck and put rally wheels on it to sell it. Was able to buy the wheels and tires off of it.


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