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68350 11-26-2007 10:48 PM

Bucket Seat Gas Tank Carpet
 
Looking for some information on how the gas tank carpet is attached in a bucket seat truck. I am adding factory bucket seats (72 style) and ordered the gas tank carpet. On the top of the carpet it appears that it attached to some type of metal strip on top. If anyone has a factory bucket seat truck let me know how your carpet attaches or better yet if you have pictures that would help also.

70 Suburban 11-26-2007 10:52 PM

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if i remember right Mine had a fiber board panel in back

71blksuper4x4 11-27-2007 12:00 AM

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my carpet cover clips over the gas tank at top... like a little ridge piece that hooks over the tank.

teeitup 11-27-2007 12:09 AM

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We just looked at a original 67 today with buddy buckets and has the carpet, it has fiber board under the carpet and its screwed to the back of the cab right above the top of the gas tank. I should be able to get a pic on Sun.

71 super 11-27-2007 10:04 AM

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Original should screw into the cab above the gas tank, not have the "clips" as the repop carpet does- these clips allow it to mount without drilling the holes. Orignals used a trim screw(screw with the recessed center washer) corners were visible and through the center the carpet was folded over so screws would not be seen. I will look and see if I have some pictures.

chipflyer 11-27-2007 10:32 AM

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I would love to see some more pics of originals.

Jeff

badpeanut 11-30-2007 12:21 AM

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Interesting! (subscribed)

Classic Bowties 12-01-2007 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by chipflyer (Post 2462984)
I would love to see some more pics of originals.
Jeff

Here are a few pics of my very original 69 GMC Custom 1500 with the optional A50 bucket seats, the seats are original as is the carpeted fibre board tank cover. The top of the carpet cover is attached to the cab under the rear window with screws and the special slotted retaining clips (see last two pics), these pictured clips/screws were removed from a parted 71 cheyenne A50 truck. I have found this same type/looking carpet retaining clips & pan head phillips screws in a original 68 CST truck, I can also feel these same pan head screws & clips thru the folded edge of the tank cover carpet on my pictured 69. Cb :bowtie:

71blksuper4x4 12-01-2007 01:01 AM

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Dang... you learn something new everyday with these trucks.

powell72 12-01-2007 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 71blksuper4x4 (Post 2468313)
Dang... you learn something new everyday with these trucks.

:agree: Thanks for the info, I've never seen the slotted pieces before.

chipflyer 12-01-2007 10:48 PM

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Good info CB, could I trouble you for pics of the corners? You said they were visible, not sure I understand yet.
Thanks for you already have though

Jeff

chevydog66 12-01-2007 10:57 PM

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Or try some self adhesive velcro.

Classic Bowties 12-02-2007 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by chipflyer (Post 2469399)
Good info CB, could I trouble you for pics of the corners? You said they were visible, not sure I understand yet.
Thanks for you already have though

Jeff

I posted a pic above of each left & right rear inside cab corner, are you wanting more of a close up shot? Cb :bowtie:

chipflyer 12-02-2007 07:30 PM

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More of a straight down and toward the corner shot, if you know what I mean. Kind of like if you looked into the open window and down into the corner, if possible. I picked up one of these carpets this summer and I am just not sure how the corners would have looked at the end of the carpet originally.

Thanks for posting those pics though.

Jeff

tkeduk8r 12-02-2007 08:11 PM

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I have the exact same slotted pieces in my 74 c10 with the A50 buckets... attaches to the rear panel under the rear window the same way too...
--Mike

davepl 03-20-2012 08:10 PM

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This is an ancient thread, but since I'm kicking myself for having thrown the clips away by accident, here's a picture of what they looked like before being removed.

terry b 04-19-2019 09:47 PM

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Any more information on mounting the carpet would be great.

LockDoc 04-20-2019 12:06 AM

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The carpet in my '68 Custom Sport Truck with buddies mounts with the brass oval trim pieces also.

LockDoc

72 tigger 04-20-2019 06:20 AM

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http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=633363

Firstowner69 found a easy and secure way to attach his carpet

71gmcC15 04-21-2019 12:17 AM

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Could you use self tappers and a big flat washer. No its not original but I don't see why it would not work.

Already Gone 04-21-2019 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 71gmcC15 (Post 8510956)
Could you use self tappers and a big flat washer. No its not original but I don't see why it would not work.

Probably would work..

Greaserthoughts9 04-21-2019 05:45 AM

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this is how i did mine !! made a video on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tB8OJCVBZA&t=127s

IronCanine 06-23-2019 12:02 PM

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I have been working ACC on getting factory correct bucket seat carpet cut. They have been enthusiastic to this point, so fingers crossed. The first step was finding a good original piece. Member Dirt's72 has generously offered up the tank carpet from his late 69 C20 Custom Camper (factory A50) built in Fremont. He took it out today and documented the process very well. Here are his pics that very nicely document the shape and the structure of the carpet. I don't know if the adhesive was from the factory but I suspect the zinc screws and washers may have been added later to reinforce the carpet...but I don't know. Thanks again Derrick for doing this!

IronCanine 06-23-2019 12:05 PM

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..cont'd..

IronCanine 06-23-2019 12:09 PM

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Last ones.

FirstOwner69 06-23-2019 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by IronCanine (Post 8547086)
I don't know if the adhesive was from the factory but I suspect the zinc screws and washers may have been added later to reinforce the carpet later on...but I don't know.

Mine had nothing but the screws and "clips" when new. Where is the adhesive used other than to hold the pad to the back of the carpet?

Regarding the "clips", can someone can provide all dimensions? Unfortunately, all but one of mine are still attached, but not used. I'd prefer to not remove everything to get at them.

IronCanine 06-23-2019 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FirstOwner69 (Post 8547305)
...Where is the adhesive used other than to hold the pad to the back of the carpet?...

Regarding the "clips", can someone can provide all dimensions? Unfortunately, all but one of mine are still attached, but not used. I'd prefer to not remove everything to get at them.

This (see outlined area in pics) looked to me like adhesive in the passenger side B-pillar. Of course if that's what it is, that could have been added like the extra screws as you suggested to stop sagging.

And just to be clear Jim, you want the dimensions of the oval brass rings-correct?

FirstOwner69 06-23-2019 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by IronCanine (Post 8547314)
And just to be clear Jim, you want the dimensions of the oval brass rings-correct?

Correct.

FirstOwner69 06-23-2019 06:25 PM

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This (see outlined area in pics) looked to me like adhesive in the passenger side B-pillar. Of course if that's what it is, that could have been added like the extra screws as you suggested to stop sagging.


Could be. This page from the assembly manual shows it in the driver side (#193) and apparently glues the carpet to the tank. My carpet fits very tightly into that gap and doesn't really need the adhesive. I also didn't glue it on the passenger side and will see if I can get a look for residue without damage within the next week.

LockDoc 06-23-2019 09:24 PM

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The corner piece in my '68 CST is attached to a piece of heavy backer board shaped to fit in the corner. It is a separate piece. I will take some pictures of it tomorrow if it isn't raining cats & dogs....

LockDoc

IronCanine 06-24-2019 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by FirstOwner69 (Post 8547321)
Could be. This page from the assembly manual shows it in the driver side (#193) and apparently glues the carpet to the tank. My carpet fits very tightly into that gap and doesn't really need the adhesive. I also didn't glue it on the passenger side and will see if I can get a look for residue without damage within the next week.

That'd be great...Thanks Jim

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The corner piece in my '68 CST is attached to a piece of heavy backer board shaped to fit in the corner. It is a separate piece. I will take some pictures of it tomorrow if it isn't raining cats & dogs....

LockDoc

I know exactly what you are talking about Leon. A pic would be great. I was with member SouthernParts yesterday and he had just that piece out of a 68. I don't know if Dirt's72's example is missing it or if there is a difference between 67-68 and the 69-72 (maybe buddy buckets vs. sport buckets). Maybe Jim can shed some more light when he checks his passenger side B pillar.

71blksuper4x4 06-24-2019 08:35 AM

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I can dig out my sets of the carpet retainer and take some measurements.

Dirt's72 06-24-2019 11:20 AM

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Thank You Brad for all your efforts to get us some proper carpet to put in out trucks. I wanted to add a few pics of observations I've come across. First is a measurement of the carpet clips from my 69.
http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL217.../414245087.jpg
Next is more pics from inside my truck where the carpet was glued.
The driver side:
http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL217.../414245089.jpg
More passenger side and not sure if this was just a repair to keep the carpet tucked in later some years after new or not?
http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL217.../414245088.jpg
http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL217.../414245091.jpg
Ten years ago I removed original carpet from a 67 buddy bucket seat truck.
I recall it had the backing that LockDoc mentioned but the carpet came out in peices.
http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL217.../414245090.jpg
http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL217.../414245092.jpg
Heres the piece I belive was on the backing on the passenger side:
http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL217.../414245095.jpg
http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL217.../414245094.jpg

Dirt's72 06-24-2019 11:27 AM

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Pictured are the screws I removed from the 67 with buddies that were used to hold up the carpet. There were no clips just these screws.
http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL217.../414245093.jpg
Recenty I removed some buddy bucket seats from a 68. The carpet was far gone but was just like the 67 carpet I removed. I retrieved what screws were there and they were different to the ones from the 67. They too did not have any clips.
http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL217.../414245096.jpg
http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL217.../414245120.jpg
http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL217.../414245118.jpg
http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL217.../414245119.jpg

FirstOwner69 06-24-2019 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by IronCanine (Post 8547577)
That'd be great...Thanks Jim



I know exactly what you are talking about Leon. A pic would be great. I was with member SouthernParts yesterday and he had just that piece out of a 68. I don't know if Dirt's72's example is missing it or if there is a difference between 67-68 and the 69-72 (maybe buddy buckets vs. sport buckets). Maybe Jim can shed some more light when he checks his passenger side B pillar.

I do not recall my '69 ever having any sort of backer board. However, the first time I removed it was probably 1971 when I used a yardstick as reinforcement in the center in place of the clips that were already tearing through. Realize though that was almost 50 years ago and the mind deteriorates with age!

Incidentally, here's a link to a post I made in a recent thread about my method of fastening the carpet. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...12&postcount=3 It's more complete than the post I made that was referenced in post 19 above.

IronCanine 06-24-2019 08:04 PM

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Derrick....thank you for donating your carpet to the cause! I think we might officially be able add tank carpet to the list of things that are different between MYs 67/8 and 69-72. Derrick do you think that the 67 carpet you removed was made in two pieces or just wore against the edge of the tank. I don't think it's a coincidence that SouthernParts had just that segment with the backing out of a 68. It was loose either because it was manufactured that way or because it's against a natural wear surface.

LockDoc 06-24-2019 10:48 PM

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Here are the pictures of the corner carpet in my '68 Custom Sport Truck with Buddy Buckets. My tank carpet is identical to Dirt's72's carpet he posted. My battery went dead in my camera when I got to the main tank carpet. Mine also had the oval brass grommets.

The cardboard backer on the corner carpet is between 3/32nds and 1/8th inch thick and stiff. The lighter colored area on the back was back in the corner and the dirty area was against the back of the cab. The notch in the top is where it transitioned from behind the inner cab panel to over it. This piece was separate from the tank carpet.

LockDoc

Dirt's72 06-25-2019 08:51 AM

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Brad, when I removed that carpet from the 67 I thought it was just tore up from being close to fifty years old at the time and had no idea that it might have been two pieces. I was disappointed at the time because I wanted to keep it intact as one piece. I do recall that cardboard backing there on the passenger side and thought a previous owner must have put that in and thought it was just garbage.

IronCanine 06-25-2019 09:06 AM

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I texted with Woody (SouthernParts) and he confirms that the tank carpet in his buddy bucket truck was two separate pieces...it didn't break.

Also Derrick, in looking at the pics...it seems that the "tack strip" at the top of the 67 was a different material from the 69. And it looks like davepl's carpet didn't have a tack strip at all.

EDIT: Do you think the tack strip in yours was added at the same time the zinc screws and washers were placed? Maybe the 69-72s had no tack strip at all.

FirstOwner69 06-25-2019 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by IronCanine (Post 8548127)
I texted with Woody (SouthernParts) and he confirms that the tank carpet in his buddy bucket truck was two separate pieces...it didn't break.

Also Derrick, in looking at the pics...it seems that the "tack strip" at the top of the 67 was a different material from the 69. And it looks like davepl's carpet didn't have a tack strip at all.

EDIT: Do you think the tack strip in yours was added at the same time the zinc screws and washers were placed? Maybe the 69-72s had no tack strip at all.

My '69 never had the "tack strip" reinforcement at the top, the carpet is definitely one piece and there was no cardboard backer at the corner. My assumption is that GM figured that the brass "clips" would serve as adequate substitutes for the reinforcing strip at the top. Our conclusion has to be that tank carpet for 67 and 68 buddies was different from the 69-72 bucket seat version.


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