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1991monstersuburban 11-02-2014 12:17 AM

60-66 lift springs
 
im having a hard time finding a lift kit for a k10 suburban and was wondering if a lift kit for a 73-87 will fit. Thanks

RANDY COX 11-02-2014 09:58 AM

Re: 60-66 lift springs
 
You might get answers faster if you post this in the 4x4 section. Specify yr BURB you have.

argonaut 11-02-2014 11:16 PM

Re: 60-66 lift springs
 
There are no lift springs specifically for a 60-66. Leafs from a 70-72 k10 are the same length, and are available in popular lifts. The difference will be the eye size and the bushing types. 66 uses all bronze bushing, and a threaded bolts on the front spring shackle. 72 uses standard rubber or poly bushings.
I converted to the newer type when I built mine.

Captainfab 11-03-2014 12:59 AM

Re: 60-66 lift springs
 
When you go with either '70-'72 or '73-'87 lift springs, you will also have to change the spring hangers to accommodate the springs.

62 short step 11-03-2014 08:16 AM

Re: 60-66 lift springs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Captainfab (Post 6901784)
When you go with either '70-'72 or '73-'87 lift springs, you will also have to change the spring hangers to accommodate the springs.

That's what I did on my 61. Worked just fine.

raylube 12-19-2018 06:38 PM

Re: 60-66 lift springs
 
So does the 67-72 or 73-87 give the same amount of lift or do you need a 6 inch to gain 4 on a 60-66?

andyh1956 12-20-2018 05:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by raylube (Post 8408750)
So does the 67-72 or 73-87 give the same amount of lift or do you need a 6 inch to gain 4 on a 60-66?

What I do know is a 4" Rancho will lift a K5 6"!:lol:

pheengurs 07-11-2019 09:21 AM

Re: 60-66 lift springs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Captainfab (Post 6901784)
When you go with either '70-'72 or '73-'87 lift springs, you will also have to change the spring hangers to accommodate the springs.

so what specifically is different? I've managed to find lift springs from Tuff Country and Procomp that are 52" long and 2.5" wide, which is the specs of whats on my 64 K10 4x4's rear...

why won't they fit?

62 short step 07-12-2019 09:04 AM

Re: 60-66 lift springs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pheengurs (Post 8556659)
so what specifically is different? I've managed to find lift springs from Tuff Country and Procomp that are 52" long and 2.5" wide, which is the specs of whats on my 64 K10 4x4's rear...

why won't they fit?

The 60-66 4x4 uses a greaseable pin and bushing to mount the springs, the newer trucks use bolts to hold them in.
I don't believe the holes in the springs are the right size. That's why I used the springs hangers off of a square body 4x4 for the rear and my machinist buddy modified the original front hangers to accept the standard bolts to mount the front springs in my truck.

pheengurs 07-12-2019 09:28 AM

Re: 60-66 lift springs
 
thanks 62shortstep!

so you mean the later model spring setups have larger shaft diameter bolts, and non greasable???


why manufacturers wouldn't just build a bushing to fit our trucks rather than not sell their product at all, baffles me...

or simply sell an undrilled bushing and let the user drill out the size needed...

62 short step 07-12-2019 09:55 AM

Re: 60-66 lift springs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pheengurs (Post 8557248)
thanks 62shortstep!

so you mean the later model spring setups have larger shaft diameter bolts, and non greasable???


why manufacturers wouldn't just build a bushing to fit our trucks rather than not sell their product at all, baffles me...

or simply sell an undrilled bushing and let the user drill out the size needed...

Actually the later model spring bolts are smaller and non greaseable.

I called one of the lift companies in 2006 and they told me not enough interest for the older stuff.

Its really not that hard to do, here is a link to my build.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=333036

raylube 07-13-2019 12:31 AM

Re: 60-66 lift springs
 
62 short I saw your thread about the rear and front springs. Just wondering what you did as far as the front spring bushing. Square body bushings are around 3.5 inches and the 60 66 hangers are 2.5 inches.did you use a poly bushing and trim the sides down? Also what did you do to convert the front spring shackles and rear hangers? Thanks.

pheengurs 07-13-2019 09:24 AM

Re: 60-66 lift springs
 
[QUOTE=62 short step;8557258]Actually the later model spring bolts are smaller and non greaseable.


so the difference between a 60-66 factory 52" x 2.5" rear leaf spring and a 67-73 (which use the same length and width springs?) is the bolt size ???

why do you need to change spring hangars, if it's just a bolt size difference?


I feel like this should be a no brainer and make sense but it doesn't.


I'm just trying to get a mental picture of why a guy can't bolt

https://www.summitracing.com/int/par...9670/overview/
or
https://www.summitracing.com/int/par...3311/overview/

on to his 1964 chev k10 4x4 with it's factory spring hangars in the rear...

raylube 07-13-2019 04:32 PM

Re: 60-66 lift springs
 
The spring bushing on those spring from summit are 3 inches wide with a 5/8 bolt hole.the spring hanger bolt when tight will clamp the hanger to the rubber or poly sleeve bushing. On the stock set up it uses a center pin with bronze bushing that floats between the hanger. The eyes of the stock springs are smaller so the 1.5 inch bushings from the aftermarket or stock 67 and newer springs cannot be used.

pheengurs 07-14-2019 01:32 PM

Re: 60-66 lift springs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raylube (Post 8557947)
The spring bushing on those spring from summit are 3 inches wide with a 5/8 bolt hole.the spring hanger bolt when tight will clamp the hanger to the rubber or poly sleeve bushing. On the stock set up it uses a center pin with bronze bushing that floats between the hanger. The eyes of the stock springs are smaller so the 1.5 inch bushings from the aftermarket or stock 67 and newer springs cannot be used.


geez... those two links from summit are supposed to be 2.5" wide springs...

I submitted a product question asking what the width of the spring perch area would be...

but I think perhaps I understand what you're saying based on the pic provided in this post here by MFC66: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=790205

basically our stock mount, because of it's cast metal and center pin design, cannot be modified to accept a bolt on spring?

raylube 07-14-2019 01:45 PM

Re: 60-66 lift springs
 
The spring from summit is 2.5 inches wide it is the bushing only on those that is 3 inches wide with a 1.5 diameter bushing. Go to the post you linked and search the members that I added that have done spring swaps.

pheengurs 07-18-2019 09:27 AM

Re: 60-66 lift springs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raylube (Post 8558428)
The spring from summit is 2.5 inches wide it is the bushing only on those that is 3 inches wide with a 1.5 diameter bushing. Go to the post you linked and search the members that I added that have done spring swaps.

thanks Raylube, I'll check those posts out... but basically you're telling me that I need to replace the spring perches, correct?

raylube 07-19-2019 01:06 AM

Re: 60-66 lift springs
 
Yes if going with newer springs will need newer hangers

'63GENIII 07-21-2019 12:44 AM

Re: 60-66 lift springs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pheengurs (Post 8560685)
thanks Raylube, I'll check those posts out... but basically you're telling me that I need to replace the spring perches, correct?

Check out the spring swap build in my sig. Info on the hangers is in it. Not too much AM support for grease pin springs anymore.


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