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tdangle 11-21-2020 01:09 PM

2004R Calibration
 
Has anyone been successful in raising the part throttle shift points on their 2004R transplant. I realize it was calibrated for a high rear gear and I have a low gear, 4.10 to be exact. It thinks I'm traveling much faster than I am due to the increased driveshaft speed. The think will go into 4th by 35-40 and doesn't really respond to 50-60% throttle as I would expect. Yes the TV cable is properly adjusted and my understanding is this is not how you set the shift points.

The Rocknrod 11-21-2020 01:28 PM

Re: 2004R Calibration
 
I have read where people trim the weights in the governor to change the shift point.
https://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/s...php?tid/283173
https://www.hotrodders.com/threads/c...ission.221004/
Here is a good thread on this forum - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...4&postcount=19
Now to find out where to get those governors. Maybe Monster can help? - https://www.monstertransmission.com/...or_c_5183.html
Do not attempt to adjust the shift timing with the throttle valve cable. The shift timing is controlled by the governor springs. For higher shift points at wide-open throttle, install lighter springs. For lower shift points at wide-open throttle, install stronger springs. - https://transmissioncenter.net/shop/200-r4-tip-sheet/

tdangle 11-21-2020 08:02 PM

Re: 2004R Calibration
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Rocknrod (Post 8838853)
I have read where people trim the weights in the governor to change the shift point.
https://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/s...php?tid/283173
https://www.hotrodders.com/threads/c...ission.221004/
Here is a good thread on this forum - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...4&postcount=19
Now to find out where to get those governors. Maybe Monster can help? - https://www.monstertransmission.com/...or_c_5183.html
Do not attempt to adjust the shift timing with the throttle valve cable. The shift timing is controlled by the governor springs. For higher shift points at wide-open throttle, install lighter springs. For lower shift points at wide-open throttle, install stronger springs. - https://transmissioncenter.net/shop/200-r4-tip-sheet/

I have read some of those posts also. I'm not sure I want to experiment with my only governor and these seem to be fairly rare. If I had it to do again, I would have gone with a 4l60e so I could adjust the shift points with the controller

The Rocknrod 11-21-2020 08:48 PM

Re: 2004R Calibration
 
I like the lighter springs idea in the last link.

cadillac_al 11-23-2020 08:28 AM

Re: 2004R Calibration
 
If Transgo makes a shift reprogramer kit for that trans it should come with governor springs and some recommendations for a starting point.

The Rocknrod 11-23-2020 08:42 AM

Re: 2004R Calibration
 
https://transgo.com/product-details/sk-200-4r/
They say their kit fixes late or early shifts.

clinebarger 11-24-2020 01:43 AM

Re: 2004R Calibration
 
Springs alone won't make drastic changes. Finding a "HP" Turbo Buick or Monte Carlo SS Valve Body & Governor will be the BEST starting point.

I stopped building 700R4 & 2004R because it was always assumed that tuning shift points is included in a rebuild. I got scars up & down my arms pulling Governors. People ask if I got a skin condition.....I have a "Got Burnt 100,000 times" condition!!

Take the Governor Springs completely out & see what it does....If it still shifts early....Lighter springs will obviously not fix it.

tdangle 11-24-2020 08:04 PM

Re: 2004R Calibration
 
Got a response back from Transgo. Their shift improver kits will not reprogram the shift points from what they were from the factory for a particular transmission calibration.

Myself 11-26-2020 11:25 PM

Re: 2004R Calibration
 
You fine tune the shttps://www.summitracing.com/parts/bmm-20248?seid=srese1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAwf39BRCCARIsALXWETybJ6Kq0DmZRYNO_If2tg6iVz2nS-GNlknlnx5dHrRaSUrKpRfTuh4aAgMREALw_wcBhift points with one of these...

clinebarger 11-27-2020 12:22 AM

Re: 2004R Calibration
 
B&M 20248 doesn't work on 200-4R governors.

Tman 11-27-2020 03:05 PM

Re: 2004R Calibration
 
I sent my valve body and governor to Extreme Automatics. They set it all up and sent it back. I love how it works now, around $325 all said and done. This was on a low mile stock olds 88 2004r, now in my 68 with 4.11 gears and 275/60 rear tires. Definitely worth the money, no trial and error. I have buddy who did the governor weights and springs in his Monster 2004r that had the same low shift points and he had the pan off 5 or 6 until he liked it. Extreme was well worth it.
http://extremeautomatics.com/product...fromc=0&fromt=

tdangle 11-27-2020 08:31 PM

Re: 2004R Calibration
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tman (Post 8841613)
I sent my valve body and governor to Extreme Automatics. They set it all up and sent it back. I love how it works now, around $325 all said and done. This was on a low mile stock olds 88 2004r, now in my 68 with 4.11 gears and 275/60 rear tires. Definitely worth the money, no trial and error. I have buddy who did the governor weights and springs in his Monster 2004r that had the same low shift points and he had the pan off 5 or 6 until he liked it. Extreme was well worth it.
http://extremeautomatics.com/product...fromc=0&fromt=

Thanks for the info. I have sent them an email and am looking into doing the same as you did.

Tman 11-28-2020 01:42 AM

Re: 2004R Calibration
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tdangle (Post 8841736)
Thanks for the info. I have sent them an email and am looking into doing the same as you did.

Make sure to get the correct speedo gears in there at the same time, don’t want to go in there again. My buddy also set up a delay relay in the lockup that slows 4th gear lockup that we both use, that is really nice too.

tdangle 11-28-2020 12:32 PM

Re: 2004R Calibration
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tman (Post 8841846)
Make sure to get the correct speedo gears in there at the same time, don’t want to go in there again. My buddy also set up a delay relay in the lockup that slows 4th gear lockup that we both use, that is really nice too.

I also have my lockup set up that way. Using a vac switch and electronic delay works well.


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