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unoga 04-14-2014 09:44 PM

to cut or not to cut
 
I have a line on a 1972 Chevy K-10 with 396 BB, but is LWB. Is this truck to special to cut down to SWB?

jrdv 04-14-2014 10:02 PM

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You are ok!

K10's never had a factory big block.

I would have no problem cutting a long bed down.;)

John

unoga 04-14-2014 10:19 PM

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thanks ... I'm really perplexed with the 396/400/402 (or whatever the displacement really is) not being a factory install. What engine should it have?

kwmech 04-14-2014 10:42 PM

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The 1972 would have come with a 350. How stuffed into the firewall is the big block?

unoga 04-14-2014 10:47 PM

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It is pretty tight.

jrdv 04-14-2014 10:54 PM

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Looks good to me!

Get to chopping! Be sure to start a build thread. There are lots of guys here to help you along.

John

67ctener 04-15-2014 12:17 AM

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All a personal preference but I like 4wds much better in long box form. One the other hand 2wds have to be short boxes in my opinion

engineer_gregh 04-15-2014 08:35 AM

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Interesting how they have the PCV teed between both valve covers. The transmission dip stick is from a later model tranny. Are you sure this is a 402? Might be a 454?

unoga 04-15-2014 09:25 AM

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I haven't checked any numbers. So, you figure the 396 and automatic tranny were shoe-horned in?

It's being offered as a 396 for $7995, which I think is toooo much. It's tagged and licensed with a decent interior... all it needs in a completed exhaust and it's streetable as is.

67 cst swb 04-15-2014 11:07 AM

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I say keep it a long box... I agree on both parts with 67ctener.
But if you do decide to go short box. I say sell the box as-is, then find or build a short box using aftermarket stuff.
But I really would keep and drive that thing as a long box.
Why are you buying a truck for more money than you want to pay, only to have to majorly change it just to like it. I would say that truck is worth $8000.00 as-is...

Tx Firefighter 04-15-2014 11:19 AM

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What these guys are trying to say is that there is no such thing as a factory big block 4x4 in the 67-72 year ranges. That truck absolutely came with either an inline six cylinder or a small block V8. Someone has, over the years, swapped a big block into the truck. There's a ton of guys that have done it. They don't fit super well in that clearance at the firewall can be tight. But, they fit plenty good to make a nice truck. If you're happy and want a big block 4x4, that's the most important thing.

Since originality is already out the window with the engine swap, I personally wouldn't lose a minute sleep over cutting the truck. You just have to make sure you're okay with probably getting underwater on the money end if you ever go to sell the truck down the road. I'm not the guy to throw stones at that concept either. I've built a ton of trucks over the years and been underwater in every one of them when it comes time to sell.

bbcmudtruck 04-15-2014 12:00 PM

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My vote is to keep the long bed. As far as resale on a cut frame, I'll never be a part of that again, regardless of how well it was done.

Fatherof3 04-15-2014 12:11 PM

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I think the 4x4s look better with the longer bed, long beds have better proportions with the higher ride height

JimJones 04-15-2014 12:46 PM

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Sorry but I don’t get the whole short box thing. If you want a short bed just buy a short bed if everybody keeps cutting up every long bed they can find eventually there won't be any more out there.
Personally I think short bed 4x4's look stupid. I guess they are ok on a 2wd but I still prefer the long bed either way.

litew8 04-15-2014 12:50 PM

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Yeah, longbed. More room to throw your snow mobile in when climbing that snowy mountain or after getting that deer from the forest.

67swb72klb 04-15-2014 01:17 PM

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cut it if that is what you want
I thought about doing mine but when I go get firewood I would have to make more trips :waah:
nice truck by the way!

unoga 04-15-2014 05:14 PM

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Thanks to all of you who commented. It really helps to get info from truck guys who "have been there". If I do buy it,it'll be for less than asking for sure AND I'll leave it LWB.

Thanks again!

Kennuck 04-15-2014 05:20 PM

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I agree with the above, I think the SWB looks way better on a 2wd but the 4x4 looks better LWB.

CST10 04-15-2014 05:38 PM

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I just like longbeds. Never really cared too much for short beds unless they were dropped real low.

robozride 04-15-2014 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JimJones (Post 6629909)
Sorry but I don’t get the whole short box thing. If you want a short bed just buy a short bed if everybody keeps cutting up every long bed they can find eventually there won't be any more out there.
Personally I think short bed 4x4's look stupid. I guess they are ok on a 2wd but I still prefer the long bed either way.

Well..I disagree. Ive never seen a long bed that I like. Isn't it about personal preference? I say cut them all and when they are gone I would bet you wont find one person stretching the short beds to long and prices will finally level and equal out. lol.

CUSTOM/10 04-15-2014 07:00 PM

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I personally love swb 4x4's and that's all I've ever owned. But with that said, I would never cut down a nice long bed, especially if you think your going to sell it sometime down the road. A cut frame just kills the value. If you buy it right, and plan on keeping it and driving it for a long time.... then go for it. Make it what you want !

derotoreut 04-15-2014 10:41 PM

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Personally I think short bed 4x4's look stupid. I guess they are ok on a 2wd but I still prefer the long bed either way.

Well here's a double dose of stupid.:box:

909 04-15-2014 11:02 PM

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The fight is on! Can we get a poll going here to decide if girly swb's are more popular than the lwb's? :drama:

70cst 04-15-2014 11:24 PM

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LWB but it really comes down to preference ...:metal:

71K20chevy 04-15-2014 11:27 PM

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Us long bed fellas are gonna be the rich ones after the remaining long beds have been cut up...my point is, I think you should leave it the way it is.

dajn 04-16-2014 12:04 AM

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Sell it and buy a short bed. It's not rocket science. There are plenty of short beds for sale.

dajn 04-16-2014 12:31 AM

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"I've never seen a long bed that i like". Unbelievable. It's hard to even comment on a statement like that.

robozride 04-16-2014 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dajn (Post 6631097)
"I've never seen a long bed that i like". Unbelievable. It's hard to even comment on a statement like that.

Its hard to comment on what someone else likes or doesnt, that was my point to this whole thread. If the guy wants it short thats great, those that know how much work it is or tips that would help him should offer that up. its the same old ford vs chevy..... vanilla vs chocolate. and as far as buying a swb if thats what you really want? we all know the prices are worlds apart.

CC69Rat 04-16-2014 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by derotoreut (Post 6630875)
Well here's a double dose of stupid.:box:

^^ One of my favorite trucks on the board. Incredible, I love it.

As far as the LWB vs. SWB it's your truck. Cut it if that's what you want but realistically it would be less work to sell it and look for a SWB .. just my .02

slow-1 04-16-2014 08:10 AM

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That red SWB 4x4 is stupid AWESOME!

JimJones 04-16-2014 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by slow-1 (Post 6631305)
That red SWB 4x4 is stupid AWESOME!

I have to agree even though I don’t really care for SWB 4x4's derotoreut's trucks are really nice

67 cst swb 04-16-2014 12:07 PM

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I think a good looking truck is a good looking truck... longbed or shortbed.
God knows there is some F-ugly examples of both out there.

derotoreut 04-16-2014 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JimJones (Post 6631575)
I have to agree even though I don’t really care for SWB 4x4's derotoreut's trucks are really nice

Thanks Jim. I appreciate the comment. I really wasn't trying to start anything, and I didn't want to get away from the point of this thread. What it really boils down to is personal opinion and what someone really wants out of their truck. Personally I don't care much for the slammed look, but again that's my opinion. The nice thing about this forum is that there are so many smart people here, with so many good ideas, and they are good hearted and want to help others out. However, the difficult part comes when people ask for opinions on personal taste. What someone likes will certainly not be liked by the next guy. I think each person has the right to do what they want with their own truck, without being chastised by everyone. When you ask for opinions you have to be open minded and expect to hear everything under the sun. ;) Oh by the way… one of my trucks is a LWB. LOL. :lol:

JimJones 04-16-2014 01:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by derotoreut (Post 6631749)
Thanks Jim. I appreciate the comment. I really wasn't trying to start anything, and I didn't want to get away from the point of this thread. What it really boils down to is personal opinion and what someone really wants out of their truck. Personally I don't care much for the slammed look, but again that's my opinion. The nice thing about this forum is that there are so many smart people here, with so many good ideas, and they are good hearted and want to help others out. However, the difficult part comes when people ask for opinions on personal taste. What someone likes will certainly not be liked by the next guy. I think each person has the right to do what they want with their own truck, without being chastised by everyone. When you ask for opinions you have to be open minded and expect to hear everything under the sun. ;) Oh by the way… one of my trucks is a LWB. LOL. :lol:

100% agree with what you say. I'm not the best with words and even when I was writing that post I thought to myself what other word can I use besides "stupid" because I didn't want to upset anybody but I was too lazy to think about it and figured we are all men here and can take some strong language if you want to call it that.
Man it's been a while since I've seen your trucks I forgot that the blue one was a longbed. The blue one is a 2wd right?
I don’t have the time right now but ill send you a PM later if I remember.

dajn 04-17-2014 10:28 PM

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Good luck either way. The cost of cutting up a lwb will never justify itself while there are still plenty of swb for sale. That may change in the future, but for now it doesn't justify. A $6000 lwb is $10000 swb. Do you really gain anything by chopping up a lwb and praying that you know what your doing? Converting a lwb into a swb is not easy or cheap. Any man thar has the ability to do this conversion has my respect. Lots of tools and lots of money

dajn 04-17-2014 10:50 PM

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It requires more than a sawzall and a wirefeed. I read these posts and i don't know if people understand that.

cool68 04-17-2014 11:43 PM

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the general Public only want SWB, have been brain washed into paying much higher prices to be accepted with the "in" crowd.

Hubscrub 04-18-2014 07:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 67 cst swb (Post 6631670)
I think a good looking truck is a good looking truck... longbed or shortbed.
God knows there is some F-ugly examples of both out there.

100% correct both can look good in my eyes i won't walk away from a long bed or a short if the price is right but lately around here the $ ain't right:lol: wow what people want for junk. But too i really don't like 4x4 I have one 85 4x4 lwb though.:chevy:

unoga 04-22-2014 09:49 PM

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going back to the photos of the 72 that I posted: doe anybody know the significance of the decals on the truck bed?

litew8 04-22-2014 10:21 PM

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T-72?


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