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TBONE1964 12-22-2014 12:05 AM

Gauging interest on "volt gauge conversion kits for 67-72 gauge clusters.
 
It has recently come to my attention that some of you using AAW wiring kits have been told that they will not support the use of the factory amp gauge. I have edited the statement that there is a risk of fire when using a stock amp gauge with a newer high amp alternator. I cannot confirm or deny the claim. If it is a concern, then you should do further research.



With that said, I am thinking about creating a volt gauge conversion kit that would come with instructions for installation and should be a 15-20 minute job for most.

I would supply everything needed for installation in a stock cluster. The needle and gauge face can appear to be stock for those concerned about looks.

Let me know who may be interested in a kit and I will make a decision on whether to move forward.

I will be posting photos of a conversion in a few days for all to see.

Thank you for your time and consideration,
Tom

michael bustamante 12-22-2014 12:11 AM

Re: Gauging interest on "volt gauge conversion kits for 67-72 gauge clusters.
 
Using an afternarket volt guage that looks similar to and will fit in the stock ammeter location?

kamikazekyle05 12-22-2014 12:12 AM

Re: Gauging interest on "volt gauge conversion kits for 67-72 gauge clusters.
 
I'm using the AAW kit, I would be interested

TBONE1964 12-22-2014 12:20 AM

Re: Gauging interest on "volt gauge conversion kits for 67-72 gauge clusters.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by michael bustamante (Post 6966850)
Using an afternarket volt guage that looks similar to and will fit in the stock ammeter location?


Actually Michael, the volt gauge will be a factory style 1976 and up Chevy truck gauge converted to fit in the factory location of the amp gauge.

This was not my idea entirely but I thought there would be a market for a kit with instructions.

TBONE1964 12-22-2014 12:22 AM

Re: Gauging interest on "volt gauge conversion kits for 67-72 gauge clusters.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kamikazekyle05 (Post 6966851)
I'm using the AAW kit, I would be interested

I will be posting some photos soon, so you can see what the conversion looks like as well as what you would get with the kit.

If there is enough interest, I will be posting kits for sale on the parts board.

Thank you for the interest,
Tom

Lattimer 12-22-2014 12:33 AM

Re: Gauging interest on "volt gauge conversion kits for 67-72 gauge clusters.
 
Interested.

jmader 12-22-2014 01:07 AM

Re: Gauging interest on "volt gauge conversion kits for 67-72 gauge clusters.
 
I would be interested in one of these. What are you thinking for a price?

67ctener 12-22-2014 01:07 AM

Re: Gauging interest on "volt gauge conversion kits for 67-72 gauge clusters.
 
I'm un aware of this issue but plan to use an aaw kit. If this is the case I would be interested in the conversion? So the stock ammeter gauge will not work?

TBONE1964 12-22-2014 01:24 AM

Re: Gauging interest on "volt gauge conversion kits for 67-72 gauge clusters.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 67ctener (Post 6966919)
I'm un aware of this issue but plan to use an aaw kit. If this is the case I would be interested in the conversion? So the stock ammeter gauge will not work?

It has been brought to my attention that if you are using the AAW wiring kit for custom applications, they recommend not using an amp gauge.

Also if you are using a 100 + amp alternator, the factory amp gauge and wiring will not support the extra amp output from the alternator.

If you are using the "factory fit" AAW kit with a stock alternator, then you will be OK with the factory amp gauge.



Hope this helps,
Tom

TBONE1964 12-22-2014 01:26 AM

Re: Gauging interest on "volt gauge conversion kits for 67-72 gauge clusters.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmader (Post 6966918)
I would be interested in one of these. What are you thinking for a price?

Hey Jeremy,

I have not got a price together yet. i am still working out some details. I will be posted a thread on the parts board soon with pricing.

Stay tuned...

Take care,
Tom

57taskforce 12-22-2014 02:10 AM

Re: Gauging interest on "volt gauge conversion kits for 67-72 gauge clusters.
 
I'm interested as well. I plan to use the aaw kit and have read the conversion threads on here. It would sure be convenient to get all the parts in one swipe.

randy.powell 12-22-2014 08:34 AM

Re: Gauging interest on "volt gauge conversion kits for 67-72 gauge clusters.
 
T-Bone - sign me up!
B/R,
RP

:c2:

engineer_gregh 12-22-2014 09:08 AM

Re: Gauging interest on "volt gauge conversion kits for 67-72 gauge clusters.
 
I would be interested.

Ol Blue K20 12-22-2014 09:14 AM

Re: Gauging interest on "volt gauge conversion kits for 67-72 gauge clusters.
 
Interested

Kennuck 12-22-2014 09:41 AM

Re: Gauging interest on "volt gauge conversion kits for 67-72 gauge clusters.
 
Here is the Warning from the AAW 510089 Classic Update Kit.

"This kit WILL NOT support the use of a factory ammeter. All AAW kits are engineered to supply the optimum charge to the battery. To achieve this performance, we route our 8ga. charge wire directly from the alternator output charge terminal to the starter battery terminal. Due to the path of the charge being altered from the
stock configuration, the gauge can no longer see a charge vs. a discharge, so it will not work properly. When ammeters were originally used, most generator or
alternator current outputs were rated at a maximum of about 25-60 amps. Modified cars being built today typically utilize a 100 amp or higher output alternator.
With these higher current units, ammeters, generally speaking, become a safety hazard. Ammeters are usually wired in parallel to the charging circuit, are
typically unfused, and can short very easily causing a fire. A voltmeter is recommended as a good alternative."

Tom is building me a cluster for my LS swap so I asked him if he could include the volt gauge. I guess I'm the test mule ;)

Lee H 12-22-2014 09:52 AM

Re: Gauging interest on "volt gauge conversion kits for 67-72 gauge clusters.
 
Tom, I'm running a AAW classic upgrade kit. I'll take one of you conversion kits. Will it include a harness? Looking forward to the for sale thread. Thanks for doing this, Lee.

Mike C 12-22-2014 10:01 AM

Re: Gauging interest on "volt gauge conversion kits for 67-72 gauge clusters.
 
This would be nice for people who didn't want to run an ammeter.

I'm pretty sure the stock ammeter is wired using a shunt. Unlike a regular installation of an ammeter, not all of the vehicle current runs through the meter. It may not be incorporated in the harness, but you could add it. Here's a quicky video on youtube that explains it. Also Google "wiring alternator with shunt"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MGed7WKwAA

Matt Cramer 12-22-2014 10:55 AM

Re: Gauging interest on "volt gauge conversion kits for 67-72 gauge clusters.
 
I'll take one if the price is right. My LS swap has the alternator run straight to the battery and no easy way to put an ammeter on it.

67 chevelle 12-22-2014 11:00 AM

Re: Gauging interest on "volt gauge conversion kits for 67-72 gauge clusters.
 
very interested , add me to the list

TBONE1964 12-22-2014 11:43 AM

Re: Gauging interest on "volt gauge conversion kits for 67-72 gauge clusters.
 
Thank you everyone.

I have you all on my list. Stay tuned for a thread on the parts board that will explain options and everything included in the kit. I am guessing after the holidays for a thread launch.

I really appreciate the interest. Hope all of you have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year,
Take care,
Tom

Wizo 12-22-2014 12:22 PM

Re: Gauging interest on "volt gauge conversion kits for 67-72 gauge clusters.
 
Interested:metal:

elf w/capital T 12-22-2014 01:59 PM

Re: Gauging interest on "volt gauge conversion kits for 67-72 gauge clusters.
 
Very interested in a stock looking and fitment gauge!

WiggyHD 12-22-2014 04:13 PM

Re: Gauging interest on "volt gauge conversion kits for 67-72 gauge clusters.
 
I'm interested. I have the AAW harness on my wish list...

Thanks
Mark

BrianG 12-22-2014 04:20 PM

Re: Gauging interest on "volt gauge conversion kits for 67-72 gauge clusters.
 
Add me to the list of those who are interested.

franken 12-22-2014 04:51 PM

Re: Gauging interest on "volt gauge conversion kits for 67-72 gauge clusters.
 
The factory battery gauge carries no current and is fed by 2 sources of 12V.
There's no danger of fire regardless of the rated current of the alternator.
AAW may not support using the original gauge, but it has nothing to do with fire or the alternator.


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