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gmebey 10-05-2014 08:18 PM

1969 C20 lower ball joint stuck
 
I'm replacing all the front end hardware as part of my restoration project.

Things have be going well until I went to knock loose the lower ball joints. Even with a pickle fork I can't get them to pop. At this time I'm considering removing steering knuckle and brake backer plate to gain more access.

But before I wanted some advice.

So please help.

leddzepp 10-05-2014 08:22 PM

Re: 1969 C20 lower ball joint stuck
 
Loosen the castle nut, leaving it still attached with enough threads so it doesn't come flying off. Use a hand held sledge hammer and smack the spindle HARD. I have never failed to remove one in this manner, it will pop loose. You want the castle nut to keep the spring from flying out when the ball joint pops loose.

trac209 10-05-2014 08:38 PM

Re: 1969 C20 lower ball joint stuck
 
Or you could get a ball joint press. Most auto parts stores have or will rent them out

leddzepp 10-05-2014 08:51 PM

Re: 1969 C20 lower ball joint stuck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trac209 (Post 6868419)
Or you could get a ball joint press. Most auto parts stores have or will rent them out

He is talking about removing the spindle from the ball joint...not the ball joint from the control arm (in which case, yes, it would need to be pressed out)

trac209 10-05-2014 09:06 PM

Re: 1969 C20 lower ball joint stuck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leddzepp (Post 6868446)
He is talking about removing the spindle from the ball joint...not the ball joint from the control arm (in which case, yes, it would need to be pressed out)

Whoops, yes I didn't read that right.

NC67Chev 10-05-2014 09:43 PM

Re: 1969 C20 lower ball joint stuck
 
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I agree that whacking it with a sledge should knock it loose, but I've found a gentler way that works well for me. I make a "spreader" by using the lower shock mount bolt, a 3/4" socket and an oversized socket like a 1 1/16". The oversized one just goes over the top ball joint nut and rests against the spindle. The 3/4" socket sits upside down on top of the loosened bottom ball joint nut. (You might have to use another 3/4" nut as a spacer inside of the lower socket depending on how long the top socket is) Once you have it in position, a few turns with a big 3/4" open end wrench will pop it loose. This is how I ended up getting the original ball joints loose on my '67. You can then reverse it to pop the upper one loose if you need to.

gmebey 10-05-2014 10:22 PM

Re: 1969 C20 lower ball joint stuck
 
WOW! A simple press! I will give it a try. Thank you

bollybib 10-06-2014 10:33 AM

Re: 1969 C20 lower ball joint stuck
 
@ NC67Chev: Very clever, I'll have to remember that one.

72bowtiestepper 10-06-2014 04:24 PM

Re: 1969 C20 lower ball joint stuck
 
Thanks for that tip NC67chev.......a simple idea that works well...I like it !

gmebey 10-06-2014 10:06 PM

Re: 1969 C20 lower ball joint stuck
 
Update.

NC67chev..... You rock!!!!!

I tried your method using a grade 8 fine thread bolt and to my surprise it worked.

There was no hammering, prying or cheater bar needed. A simple 3/4" wrench is all it took!!!

However I did oil the threads on the bolt.

My only regret was not knowing this trick before I mushroomed my pickle fork.

NC67Chev 10-07-2014 07:15 AM

Re: 1969 C20 lower ball joint stuck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gmebey (Post 6869875)
Update.

NC67chev..... You rock!!!!!

I tried your method using a grade 8 fine thread bolt and to my surprise it worked.

There was no hammering, prying or cheater bar needed. A simple 3/4" wrench is all it took!!!

However I did oil the threads on the bolt.

My only regret was not knowing this trick before I mushroomed my pickle fork.

I'm glad it worked out for you. I tried for 2 days to get mine loose and then I came up with this idea. I had them loose within minutes once I got the right combination of sockets figured out.

LockDoc 10-07-2014 10:18 AM

Re: 1969 C20 lower ball joint stuck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gmebey (Post 6869875)
Update.

NC67chev..... You rock!!!!!

I tried your method using a grade 8 fine thread bolt and to my surprise it worked.

There was no hammering, prying or cheater bar needed. A simple 3/4" wrench is all it took!!!

However I did oil the threads on the bolt.

My only regret was not knowing this trick before I mushroomed my pickle fork.


It's known as good old American Ingenuity....:).. Glad you got it off.

LockDoc

gmebey 10-07-2014 11:09 AM

Re: 1969 C20 lower ball joint stuck
 
The sad part was I thought of using a simple press but could figure out a simple implementation.

It took me less than 10 minutes to both sides.

Again thanks for sharing!

Soulbilly 07-04-2015 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmebey (Post 6870364)
The sad part was I thought of using a simple press but could figure out a simple implementation.

It took me less than 10 minutes to both sides.

Again thanks for sharing!

Wish I could say the same. I've tried every method here, and that SOB won't budge!
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mk3barti 07-06-2015 06:56 PM

Re: 1969 C20 lower ball joint stuck
 
Have you tried using heat? I couldn't get mine to budge on my 67 until I got it really hot. Still took 5 hits with a big sledge but it finally came loose.

Soulbilly 07-10-2015 11:40 AM

Re: 1969 C20 lower ball joint stuck
 
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Originally Posted by mk3barti (Post 7232630)
Have you tried using heat? I couldn't get mine to budge on my 67 until I got it really hot. Still took 5 hits with a big sledge but it finally came loose.

Thanks, man. I finally got the bugger loose. Combined simple press, pickle fork, and a bigger hammer. What's that saying? "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer." ;)

mk3barti 07-10-2015 12:30 PM

Re: 1969 C20 lower ball joint stuck
 
Nice work! A bigger hammer never fails

RenoKeene 07-10-2015 01:54 PM

Re: 1969 C20 lower ball joint stuck
 
Pickle fork in a air chisel works pretty good also "as seen on TV".

wesmigletz 09-14-2015 03:30 AM

Re: 1969 C20 lower ball joint stuck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NC67Chev (Post 6868537)
I agree that whacking it with a sledge should knock it loose, but I've found a gentler way that works well for me. I make a "spreader" by using the lower shock mount bolt, a 3/4" socket and an oversized socket like a 1 1/16". The oversized one just goes over the top ball joint nut and rests against the spindle. The 3/4" socket sits upside down on top of the loosened bottom ball joint nut. (You might have to use another 3/4" nut as a spacer inside of the lower socket depending on how long the top socket is) Once you have it in position, a few turns with a big 3/4" open end wrench will pop it loose. This is how I ended up getting the original ball joints loose on my '67. You can then reverse it to pop the upper one loose if you need to.

I used this trick today on a 71 front end. It worked like a charm.

mike16 09-14-2015 10:37 AM

Re: 1969 C20 lower ball joint stuck
 
brilliant!. I cannot count the number of times this would have worked for me.

Dembones 07-12-2020 08:59 PM

Re: 1969 C20 lower ball joint stuck
 
Although this is an older post, NC67CHEV's wisdom lives on. . . .
After applying SIGNIFICANT force on my stuck ball joint with a BFH and pickle fork and not being able to break it loose, I found this thread. So I dug out a 3" grade 8 bolt and the right size sockets, put the joint under pressure, hit it once and it popped right away. EXCELLENT advice. Thank you!

wesmigletz 07-12-2020 10:35 PM

Re: 1969 C20 lower ball joint stuck
 
This tip has saved me more than once.

toolboxchev 07-13-2020 10:59 AM

Re: 1969 C20 lower ball joint stuck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trac209 (Post 6868419)
Or you could get a ball joint press. Most auto parts stores have or will rent them out

Most of the ones in rentals I am told will not get the job done. I made a extraction tool with some simple nuts and bolts from the hardware store. The upper still has to be in to get it done.

Use a torch to heat the stud of the ball joint, then hit it with a hose. The thermal shock from hot to cold will loosen it.

HO455 07-13-2020 01:08 PM

Re: 1969 C20 lower ball joint stuck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NC67Chev (Post 6868537)
I agree that whacking it with a sledge should knock it loose, but I've found a gentler way that works well for me. I make a "spreader" by using the lower shock mount bolt, a 3/4" socket and an oversized socket like a 1 1/16". The oversized one just goes over the top ball joint nut and rests against the spindle. The 3/4" socket sits upside down on top of the loosened bottom ball joint nut. (You might have to use another 3/4" nut as a spacer inside of the lower socket depending on how long the top socket is) Once you have it in position, a few turns with a big 3/4" open end wrench will pop it loose. This is how I ended up getting the original ball joints loose on my '67. You can then reverse it to pop the upper one loose if you need to.

This is how I've always done it. I think I use the same bolt my dad used. I have substituted a spark plug socket on the bottom so there is a place to put a wrench and keep the bottom from turning.

toolboxchev 07-13-2020 01:58 PM

Re: 1969 C20 lower ball joint stuck
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HO455 (Post 8773849)
This is how I've always done it. I think I use the same bolt my dad used. I have substituted a spark plug socket on the bottom so there is a place to put a wrench and keep the bottom from turning.

Very well thought out!


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