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TxCajun 03-17-2018 07:29 PM

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I found this '66 C10 SWB Fleetside, six cylinder 3-speed manual in August of 2017. From the dealer bumper and the limited information that I have, it appears to have been purchased from a dealer in Itasca, Texas (home of the high school Wampus Cats). It has spent its life in that general area of Texas and appears to have not been on the road since the early 90's.
There is a lot of bondo on various spots of the body; the cab floor has been fiberglass patched; there is rust above the windshield in the cab roof.
The cab and frame VIN numbers match; the bed does not appear to be original to the truck (evidence of side trim mounting holes) and has a steel tread plate floor; the left front fender and some front sheet metal do not appear to be original.
Non-running and no brakes when purchased.
Leaking from all orifices and the bottom is covered with 1 or 2 inches of petrified oil and dirt.
I'm not planning on doing any major restoration. I'd like to just get it roadworthy and enjoy using it while continuing to make upgrades here and there.

LostMy65 03-17-2018 10:13 PM

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Enjoy.

Captainfab 03-17-2018 11:40 PM

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That looks like not too bad of a truck aside from the issues you mentioned. What engine and trans does it have? What upgrades are you planning?

TxCajun 03-17-2018 11:43 PM

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September 2017
Purchased some red Rallye wheels from my nephew. They were take-offs from his '65 that he replaced with steel wheels and baby moons.
Replaced the battery tray (rotten) and installed a new battery.
Cleaned up the fuel system; new points & condenser; a bit of tuning and got the engine running. Reasonable compression and no smoke, but has a helluva knock.
Pulled the engine and determined it appears to be a 230 cu in that has already been bored .060 and is worn out. Found some metal bits in the oil pan that look like camshaft thrust bearing. Started looking for a rebuildable engine.
Removed a bunch of spacers from the coil springs on all four corners; the springs look like they must have been heated for lowering at some point (or maybe just sagged).

TxCajun 03-17-2018 11:50 PM

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October 2017
While looking for a rebuildable engine, decided to rebuild the brakes and check through the suspension.
Discovered that only the driver side parking brake was connected; the passenger side parking brake hardware had all been removed. Cheap fix for a broken cable?
Upgraded to dual master cylinder. Installed new wheel cylinders, new shoes and hardware, installed new brake rubber hoses.
Installed new rear axle seals and new rear axle lube. Installed new front wheel seals and re-packed bearings.
Installed new rear parking brake cables and hardware.
Installed new panhard rod bushings and straightened the panhard rod which was bent in an arc.

TxCajun 03-17-2018 11:59 PM

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November 2017
Installed new driver side window rollers, window tape, and used window support channel. (The window support channel was missing from the door when I purchased the truck.) Now I can roll that window up and down.
Started rebuilding the brake/clutch pedals and linkages. Installed new brake/clutch pedal bushings and pedal pads and pedal bumpers; weld repaired pedal stops.
The ends of the clutch rods were worn almost to the point of failure so I built these up with weld metal and ground/filed them back to round size. The clutch arm holes were also worn oblong so I built these up with weld metal, drilled them oversize and installed bronze bushings.
Found a rebuildable engine east of Dallas, dragged it home and started tear down.

TxCajun 03-18-2018 12:04 AM

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December 2017
The engine that I found to rebuild is a 250 cu in from about '78 (according to the casting numbers and stamping). It had been previously bored .040" over and the bores measured within tolerance after honing.
Had the cylinder head rebuilt with hardened exhaust seats, machined for valve seals and install valve seals, surface head .012”.
Installed new rings, bearings, gaskets, new cam (stock, the old one had flattened cams), lifters, oil pump.
Installed new harmonic balancer.
Installed new water pump.
Big thanks to my brother for assembly assistance while visiting for the holidays!

TxCajun 03-18-2018 12:11 AM

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January 2017
Completed assembly of engine ancilliaries. Cleaning and painting parts as I go.
Installing a GM HEI distributor and ignition, and a 2bbl Weber.
Cleaned up the transmission and installed new seals. Found that the shifter arms were worn and cracked where they attach to the transmission so welded and filed these to shape. Found that the main input shaft bearing had a lot of fore/aft play so I fabricated and installed a spacer; the rest of the interior of the transmission looked pretty good and there were no shavings or bits in the oil.

TxCajun 03-18-2018 12:25 AM

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February 2017
Painted the doghouse rattle-can semi-gloss black.
Installed rebuilt engine back in the truck.
Installed new front and rear motor mounts (the old ones were spongy from oil leaks and age)
Installed new flywheel and clutch kit, new clutch actuator rod bushings, new clutch actuator arm boots.

The truck is a bit of a Frankenstein of different parts, and I discovered that the standard Chevy starters would not fit the combination of 10.4" clutch, 153T flywheel, and truck bellhousing. Decided to go with a mini gear reduction starter which fits but has not yet been tested. I was hoping to fire up the engine in February (Fenginebruary), but the starter problem delayed ignition.

Palf70Step 03-18-2018 07:47 AM

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I think all our truck's are Frankenstiens. Yours is coming together very nicely!

LostMy65 03-18-2018 12:44 PM

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Thanks for uploading all the photos.
I like your plan.

61K10 03-18-2018 01:43 PM

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looks good---------

shp4man 03-18-2018 01:56 PM

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Nice. I like that you stayed with the six. It's a great little motor.

rvrfoot 03-18-2018 11:48 PM

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Did you take your hood springs off so the hood will go up higher?

TxCajun 03-18-2018 11:59 PM

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Did you take your hood springs off so the hood will go up higher?

No, I read a suggestion elsewhere in this board that you can take out the front hinge mounting bolts on each side, loosen the rear mounting bolts, and then pivot the hood up vertical for engine/hoist access. You will need to tie the hood up, perhaps with a rope back to the cab, to hold it in this position.

Since I was working by myself, I did not want to take the hood off, and this pivoting solution worked well.

rvrfoot 03-19-2018 12:02 AM

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Cool thanks i am taking my motor out next weekend.

TxCajun 03-21-2018 07:16 AM

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Decided to install the front sway bar that I purchased from Performance Online when it was on sale a few months ago, part number FSBK6372. It's a 1 1/8 inch diameter bar, and the front pivots bolt directly to the underside of the frame so the bar is positioned relatively high with respect to the chassis. The parts appear to be good quality and the supplied hardware is Grade 5 bolts and nylok nuts.

One pair of bolts for the front pivots needed to go where the rivets holding the lower radiator brace to the main frame rails were located. I had not removed any of these chassis rivets before and was concerned about how hard that might be. However, I read a suggestion about using a cutoff wheel to cut an "X" in the rivet head and then knock the head off with a hammer and chisel. Tried it, and worked like a charm. A half dozen whacks with a five pound hammer and chisel, and the head was gone. The rivet can then be driven out with a punch.

After that, I just had to drill two more 3/8 holes in the frame and one in the front of each a-arm, then bolt everything up.

TJ's Chevy 03-22-2018 09:04 PM

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Nice to see another truck with a 6 cyl in it. Becoming a rare breed. The sway bar will be a nice touch. :chevy:

TxCajun 03-23-2018 02:21 PM

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Nice to see another truck with a 6 cyl in it. Becoming a rare breed. The sway bar will be a nice touch. :chevy:

Thanks! Rare breed indeed.
I'm planning on keeping it simple with the straight six and three speed on the column; just make upgrades to brakes, suspension, and cosmetics.

TxCajun 04-24-2018 09:56 PM

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The springs on the truck appeared to have perhaps been "lowered" by heating, or perhaps just sagged over the years.

I purchased 2" lowering springs for the front and 3" lowering springs for the rear.

While installing the front springs, I also replaced the upper ball joints and adjusted the manual steering box. The rest of the front suspension seems to be in good shape.

On the rear, I had to cut out the trailing arm pivot bolts, the spring capture hardware, and the one of the axle U-bolts, but I had planned to use new hardware anyway.

For the trailing arm pivot bolts, instead of using 4" long Grade 8 replacement bolts, I decided to use 5" long Grade 8 replacement bolts so that there are no threads inside the pivot bushing. I shortened the 5" bolts by about 5/8" so that about only 2 to 3 threads extend past the nut. I also replaced the bushings with poly bushings.

TxCajun 04-24-2018 10:02 PM

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The old rear shocks were leaking, so I still need to determine the length of rear shock that I need with the lower springs, and also fabricate new upper shock mounts so that the shocks are more vertical.

With the new springs installed the distance from the center of the wheel to the bottom of the fender lip is about 17" at the front and 12" at the rear. These measurements and the pictures were taken just after taking it off the jack-stands and bouncing the truck a few times, so it may settle in a bit after sitting for a while.

TxCajun 05-04-2018 09:24 AM

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April 2018

I started up the rebuilt engine for the first time with help from my brother who was visiting. After fashioning a tool for my drill, we spun the oil pump to lubricate the engine, then inserted the distributor, and cranked it up. A little tweaking of the timing and idle mixture got it running smoothly, and we then let it run for about 20 minutes for cam break-in. Oil pressure and water temperature are good; sounds great.

The engine temp started getting a little warm just sitting there in the driveway at high idle on a 84 degree day, but putting a fan in front of the truck blowing on the radiator resolved that. The stock fan sits back 2 or 3 inches from the radiator, and there is no fan shroud; might be a good candidate for an electric cooling fan this summer.

There was a minor oil leak at the front of the oil pan, but re-torquing the oil pan bolts resolved the leak.

I fabricated some new rear upper shock mounts following the design suggested on this forum by Lakeroadster; this mount relocates the upper shock mount a little higher and further back so that the shock is more upright and will operate correctly ( http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=451200 ) .
I don't have access to a mill, so I made these mounts using my side grinder with a cutoff wheel for the cutout area and my drill press for the holes.

After a little research, I chose to use Monroe Gas-Magnum 34904 shocks instead of the Monroe 32207 that are often suggested on this forum. The 34904 are very close in length dimensions to the 32207, but are a little beefier in that they have a larger diameter rod and cylinder. My truck has a tread plate rear bed floor that I estimate adds 250 to 300 pounds to the bed, so I think the additional damping may be helpful.
I haven't driven this setup yet, but it has very good damping when I put my weight on the rear bumper and try to bounce the truck.

jimmythompson1964 05-04-2018 06:59 PM

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Nice work so far you will be rolling in no time

aggie91 05-15-2018 11:25 AM

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Nice work. I enjoy your methods and the way you are documenting the changes.

TxCajun 07-25-2018 09:29 AM

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When I was putting the engine & transmission back in the truck, I greased and adjusted the lower column shift arms along with installing new bushings at all of the shift arm pivot points. However, the top of the column had a lot of side-to-side steering wheel play and the column shift arm was very loose.

I disassembled the top of the column and cleaned, inspected all of the parts. The shift lever holes on the "Shift Lever Housing" were worn out oblong and cracked, so the shift lever roll pin which should be pressed in was just a wobbly fit. I thought about trying to repair these holes with aluminum brazing rod and then re-drill, but upon investigation it appears that the commonly available brazing rods have a melting point of about 720 to 750 degrees F which is very close to the temperature at which the die casting would melt or distort. Also, since there are hairline cracks between the hole and the end of the casting boss, I don't think a bushing would work or, at best, would only be a temporary solution. After cleaning up the casting, I found a part number cast on the inside: 3873134. In doing a web search, I found an NOS part for a reasonable price from AutoPartsObsolete, and bought it.

The steering wheel also had 1/8” cracks/gaps next to the center hub and a few other places. Using a Dremel tool, I cleaned out the cracks and made them wider at the base than at the top, then I filled these with JB Weld, sanded, and painted the wheel satin black. I'm in the process of installing an “old school” lace-on steering wheel cover, but the last picture shows close to final results.

After greasing the column parts with white lithium grease and reassembling everything, the shifter feels more precise and the steering wheel play is gone.

TxCajun 07-25-2018 09:34 AM

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I've now got the truck running and driving. I've driven up and down my 100' driveway several times, and also ventured out in my rural neighborhood for test drives, but I have to get the windshield installed so that I can get the state inspection and liccense plates. Before that, I have to fix the rust around the windshield frame and in the inner/outer roof panels above the windshield.

I removed the outer roof panel and discovered that it appears to have been removed at some time in the past. Instead of being held in place with a whole bunch of spot welds, it appears to have been spot brazed at about 3" to 6” spacing. The rain gutter appears to have been refilled with fiberglass resin which was brittle and cracked, thus making water ingress and rust worse. I also discovered a couple rodent nests, the results of a can or two of expanding insulation foam, and some window-screen/bondo patches.

I purchased another roof fairly cheap on Craiglist near San Antonio. It has it's own share of rust problems, and is not good enough to do a full replacement swap, but that swap would be beyond my fab/weld capabilities anyway. My current plan is to use parts of the second roof as patch panels on the truck. I'll clean up all of the rust, prime, and paint.

After the rust repair, I'm leaning towards bonding on the outer roof panel using 3M structural panel bond adhesive rather than spot welding it on. There are some posts in this forum and other places on line that make this bonding method look like an interesting alternative to spot welds for this outer roof panel application.

TxCajun 07-25-2018 09:37 AM

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More roof disassembly pics and the Craigslist roof.

TxCajun 11-29-2018 12:47 PM

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After much research, I finally worked up a plan that would meet city building permit requirements for a workshop. There were restrictions on building size relative to my house and lot size, but I was able to get approval for an 800 sq ft building. It also has a 14 ft wide x 18 ft driveway leading up to the building which will eventually be covered for outdoor work space when the weather is good and/or the tasks are messy.
The permit was approved in early September, we poured the slab by the end of the month. The Mueller Steel Building kit arrived in early October, and despite a lot of rain, we finished the shell assembly before Thanksgiving.

TxCajun 11-29-2018 12:48 PM

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Paying for this as I go, so still need to do insulation, floor paint, and electrical as the funds are available but I've always wanted a work shop so I'm pretty excited.

roll_the_dice 11-29-2018 02:23 PM

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Nice work shop! I can't wait until I buy a house with land on it for a building like this. I did build a 12x12 "workshop" last year for my blast cabinet and some other fabrication areas. Works well for what I do...but can't wait to have a shop I can put my cars/trucks in with a lift! Keep up the good work on the truck!

TxCajun 02-19-2019 10:47 AM

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I've been wire brushing and poking at the rust in the roof and around the windshield to determine which areas need to be patched using parts from the extra roof that I found on Craigslist. There are several areas around the windshield and the driver's side drip rail that are pretty crusty.

I decided to dive in and start with the center section above the windshield which was a nasty mix of bondo, window screen, fiberglass resin, canned spray foam, and rodent nest/droppings.

I've heard that if you have to grind your welds to make them look good you are not a welder, you are a grinder. I definitely fall in to the latter category, but I think the welds are full penetration and strong. Hopefully I'll improve as I go along.

TxCajun 02-19-2019 11:01 AM

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My brother was in town visiting for a couple days. We really enjoy working on projects together, so he helped me out by cutting and fitting a few patches while I was welding and grinding. Big thanks!!!

These are the passenger side patches to the windshield upper and lower frame.

While patching the rust at the lower corner, I also welded up the body seam in that area because it had rust through. That turned out nicely, so I'm thinking about welding up the other windshield body seam gaps to minimize the use of seam sealer.

TxCajun 02-19-2019 11:07 AM

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Driver's side upper patch.

Captainfab 02-20-2019 12:51 AM

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Welding sheet metal is much different than welding something structural. With welding sheet metal you do not weld a constant bead, just a series of tacks. Otherwise you will end up with a warped up pile of crap. And sheet metal welds will most always need to be ground/sanded flush.

TxCajun 02-23-2019 09:53 AM

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Welding sheet metal is much different than welding something structural. With welding sheet metal you do not weld a constant bead, just a series of tacks. Otherwise you will end up with a warped up pile of crap. And sheet metal welds will most always need to be ground/sanded flush.

Affirmative on the "series of tacks" skip welding required for sheet metal. My "tacks" are not as smooth as some of those that I see in on-line demos (particularly when welding overhead), and require more grinding. However, I'm getting better as I go along.

TxCajun 02-26-2019 10:14 AM

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I continued doing roof rust weld repairs, including filling in the windshield body seam gaps to minimize the use of seam sealer; the upper gaps were 1/4" to 3/8" wide. I also replaced the driver side drip rail area as it was very crusty.

Next step is to apply POR 15 to the top side of the inner roof and complete the repairs to the outer roof before bonding it on.

I'm also investigating sound deadener mat to apply to the top side of the inner roof.

kdad 02-26-2019 11:13 AM

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Your repairs are looking really nice.

TxCajun 03-11-2019 10:30 PM

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Finished the rust repairs around the windshield, drip rails, and inner roof. Applied POR-15 to the top of the inner roof except the ~1/2" wide perimeter where the outer roof mates.

I also started on repairs to the donor outer roof, i.e. work out a few dents, repair rust, repair weakened areas.

These are repairs to the rust at the passenger side front corner.

TxCajun 03-11-2019 10:43 PM

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....And these are repairs to the driver side front corner of the outer roof panel. Next up, I'll POR-15 and paint the underside of this panel.

I'm waiting on an order for some sound deadener mat which I plan to apply to the top of the inner roof. Then I'll be ready to bond on the outer roof panel.

While I'm waiting on that sound mat order, I think I'll run some some new wiring to the dome light to replace the original wiring that has rather brittle insulation.

I also going to fab and install some shoulder harness upper mounting points in the "B" pillars so that I can install three point belts at a later date.

TxCajun 03-27-2019 09:54 PM

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Fixing a couple things inside the cab before I put the outer roof back on:

While I still have access to the inside of the B pillar from the top, I added upper shoulder belt mounting points following the method described in the post -> http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=shoulder+belt

My cab did not have a passenger side sun visor, but the donor roof did, so I added in the mounting features on the inside of the roof to use that passenger donor visor when I start putting things back together.

My dash radio area was not as mangled as some that I've seen on this forum, but it had been modified at some point in the past with an extra hole and a larger rectangular cutout. I welded in a couple of patches, but still need to re-cut the rectangular opening to the correct size so that the pattern will be hole Ctr to Ctr 6 3/8" and radio-face rectangular opening 1 1/2" x 4 1/2".

I also weld plugged and ground flush about a half dozen miscellaneous drilled holes on the face of the dash. (It would be interesting to know what kind of strange stuff previous owners mounted on the dash with sheet metal screws. (CB radios, cup holders, auxiliary gauges, ...... ???)


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