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smoke wagon 10-13-2011 06:31 PM

Braking kills motor
 
Hi, i have a 4" lifted 72 shortbed, front disc with hawk pads, power steering, 1 ton brake booster, 600cfm holley, 327 rebuilt not long ago, 33 12.50's. The engine runs good and pulls good vacuum however, when i do any kind of braking the motor will bog down. It will idle back up or if i use power steering by turning the wheels it will kill it as i slow. With the 1ton brake booster ill have plenty of assisted braking even when it dies. Any good braking and it dies. Also the ignition is new HEI and tuned petty good. The truck runs great but this braking and dieing problem has me wantin to yank my hair out. Any ideas would be cool. I have searched till blue in face but cant find anything. On a side note just about everything on truck is new.
Ryan
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Rifter_Chevy 10-13-2011 06:41 PM

Re: Braking kills motor
 
Ive had a bad booster cause this before.

smoke wagon 10-13-2011 07:34 PM

Re: Braking kills motor
 
The booster was bad and i replaced it. Now it juet dies and i still have assisted brakes for a bit. Also i checked no sign of vac leaks. I take it that even though it is a carborated motor with big tires i shouldnt be having this issue. The hawk pads worked great to pep up its stopping power along with the new master cylendar and 1ton booster i thought that the problem would be fixed. The sad part is that im sure this truck could stop fast if i needed to but any type of breakin aside from light breaking will kill it.

BLAZERMAN 10-13-2011 08:05 PM

Re: Braking kills motor
 
Sounds like it may be a carb problem...maybe check the float level? I dont know much about Holleys but thats where I would move onto since you know your booster is good.

onebadbowtie 10-13-2011 09:52 PM

Re: Braking kills motor
 
have you tried bumping your idle up a bit to see if that helps any? just a thought. the booster was bad on my truck and the idle was set while it was bad. i put a new booster on it and it started dieing when i braked hard. so i turned the idle up a bit ant haven't had any problems since

Tex_50613 10-13-2011 10:18 PM

Re: Braking kills motor
 
I've had this happen when a automatic trans wouldn't properly downshift before die to a extra load on the motor, beyond that I have no ideas

smoke wagon 10-14-2011 12:11 AM

Re: Braking kills motor
 
The floats are set just below the sight hole and the idle is at 900rpm. I tried adding a little fuel at idle an it didnt help. Thanks for the replys ryan
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mstrav1973 10-15-2011 12:13 AM

Re: Braking kills motor
 
Can you post some pics? Carb and booster showing hoses. Check valve good on the booster?

Matt

72lb4x4 10-15-2011 12:28 AM

Re: Braking kills motor
 
Can you disconnect the vac to the booster and test w/o danger due to the brakes not working that well?

What happens if you're stopped and press the brakes? Any change in engine speed?

What happens if you put your foot on the brake pedal and start the engine?

smoke wagon 10-15-2011 09:31 AM

Re: Braking kills motor
 
The booster Check valve is new and works good. If i disconnect the booster then the truck will stop but i have to give it alot of pedal. I havnt tride this though with new booster. Also the booster is connected directly to the manifold, no leaks but maybe by connectin it like that allows it to suck to much vacuum and kills the motor. Im sure the reason its dieing is because when i use the brakes it replenishes its vac supply quickly by pulling it from the motor causing if to die. I could hook it up at the carb but thats were the pcv to the valve cover is hooked up which is also good, i just replaced it and tried taking it off to see if it made a differance. Ryan
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smoke wagon 10-17-2011 04:57 PM

Re: Braking kills motor
 
This weekend i moved the booster vac line from the rear of the manifold to the side of the carb where holley says to and that helped. Then i raised the fuel level in the rear bowl and now it only dies under really hard breaking which i guess is normal? Its werd because i thought that the rear fuel bowl was only used under harder excelleration when the secondary butterflies open. Now when the motor bogs from braking the engine will lower a bit and then rev up to counter. Works for me. Ryan
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