Drum Brake shoes and hardware setup pictures
 

I have a 1970 c10 truck with manual drum brakes and my brake shoes and hardware are not put on right. I need four pictures of each brake drum that are put on right. If somebody could send me pictures that would be great. :chevy:

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Here is a good photo set for you:

http://www.pbase.com/nufsed/drumbrake

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Thank you! Do you have any pictures for the front drums?

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Front drums go the same way pretty much.

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Oh okay thank you for the info I appreciate it.

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Here's a pic of front brakes.

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Yeah that link rocks lol drum brakes are hard the first couple times lol

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Anyone have similar photos for a 61

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Two bits of advice. Get a drum brake tool/spring return, and wear EYE protection. Messing around with pliers and all that is dangerous and so easy to really scratch yourself up or take an eye out. It can be done with pliers, but alot easier and less frustration with a tool and dont forget EYE PROTECTION!

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+1 invest in a drum tool!

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I couldn't figure out how to use the tool to replace the springs. I are dumb, I guess.
I used a t handle spring tool, used on motorcycles and atv exhaust.

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I have found the "tool" for drum brakes to be very hard to use. I just did all four of my drum brakes and all I used was a small vice grips. To remove the springs just clamp it tight up by the hooks, at a 90 degree angle, and stretch them and unhook -- the springs are not that strong. For the shoe keeps (the slotted washer), I used the same vice grips to grab the edge of the washer straight-on (just enough to hold them) and then hold the pin from behind, push in and do a half twist. The special tool doesn't always grab when you twist. -- putting them together is just the same, in reverse. I actually did each one several times (for various reasons, like the new parking brake cables were the wrong length), I've gotten real good at it after doing 8 of them :) Hope this helps, Ken

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Might have picked up a cheap pair? Mine work great.

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Probably. I acquired them from my dad. But that link saved my butt.

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I do it the same way as kda2000, after much trial and error and attempts to use the special tool I found this method is quite simple and safe and actually easy.

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Something I found made installing the springs a lot easier, after my car accident I needed to make things easier.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...1F3B0401FF.jpg

Old drum I cut the face off of, worked well.

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So there are "two" sizes of shoes? The larger always go towards the rear and the shorter (Seems like two different sizes?) go towards the front? Is this correct? (They are all setup the same way.)

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That was how mine were, and I put new shoes on the same way. My 1970 shop manual also shows the larger on the aft side!

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Something many people forget is to wear eye-protection when rebuilding drum brakes. Those springs will go flyin!

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my book says primary and secondary for the hold down springs, they are different so which goes where? primary hold down the rear shoe on the fronts?

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Primary shoes (shorter lining) always face forward. The brake system on these trucks is a " duo -servo" system which is a fancy way of saying that the front (short) shoe is used to "jam the rear shoe (secondary) against the anchor pin & against the drum making the brakes more effective. Some brake systems are "single acting" brakes. The brakes on these systems are anchored opposite from the wheel cylinder (usually on the bottom) and both brake linings on the front & rear shoes are the same length. The shoes simply pivot out when the brakes are applied

Got long winded there, if one anchor spring is shorter it goes on the rear shoe. It is shorter because it is also retaining the self adjuster arm.

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thanx bw, my truck been apart a long while and cant find my hardware either. i just went thru this with the rear dana 60. i have 12'' brakes. i need both adjuster wheel springs and both small return springs. gonna post a pic on the wanted side

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I have the 12" brakes also, here are some part #'s:

Brake shoe set CQ S127
Brake Hose, Rear CQ SP4999
wheel cylinder, left CQ WCA34474
wheel cylinder, right CQ WCA34475
hardware kit
adjuster kit, left H2554
adjuster kit, right CQ H2555
Spring, transfer bar CQ 1338-2A
adjuster screw, left CQ 1530
adjuster screw, right CQ 1531
Parking brake cable set Inline Tube BST6943
brake drum CQ 8911

CQ is Car Quest, if you get the adjuster kit the adjuster screw comes with it. I have the hardware kit but did not record the P/N, will check this on Monday

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These are front brake numbers?

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No, sorry should have given more info. 71 GMC 4x4 Dana 60 rear axle (disc front/drum rear)