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c20pickup 04-08-2015 10:46 AM

700r4 pan gasket
 
does anybody make a silicone gasket for the pan of my 700r4? Its leaking like a sieve right now (brand new pan, bran new gasket) looking for one similar to the pan gasket on my engine with the metal inserts. If this isnt available whats the next best gasket to use?

Bigdav160 04-08-2015 12:56 PM

Re: 700r4 pan gasket
 
I've never seen an OE gasket leak on a 700R4

c20pickup 04-08-2015 01:06 PM

Re: 700r4 pan gasket
 
I used the gasket i got with the new pan, it was a black rubber gasket

mechanicalman 04-08-2015 04:45 PM

Re: 700r4 pan gasket
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by c20pickup (Post 7124541)
does anybody make a silicone gasket for the pan of my 700r4? Its leaking like a sieve right now (brand new pan, bran new gasket) looking for one similar to the pan gasket on my engine with the metal inserts. If this isnt available whats the next best gasket to use?

First scratch up around the bolt holes topside on the pan to create friction there to keep from splitting gaskets then after you do that pound those areas back down to flush or a little below. I call it "grip-tion"

Victor-Reinz tuff-cork with metal core. Spray copper-coat it and let dry before application. Let trans drain real, real, real good, don't get in a hurry, stuff some thick assembly gel into the servo drain hole if it won't stop dripping, wipe down the trans pan rails and oil pan with a CLEAN rag and brakleen before installing pan (be meticulous). Put the magnet back in and don't over-tighten the bolts. If your bolts have been over-tightened you might consider replacing them as the washers are a conical design and if smashed they are not longer effective. It's ready to go now. DO NOT use silicone anywhere on the trans pan.
https://www.rockauto.com/catalog/mor...483&cc=1031285

Also, if you don't like messing with the pan (not my favorite past-time), flush out the torque converter by removing the upper cooler line at the trans, attach a rubber hose skillfully aimed at a drain pan, then pour 5 quarts of synthetic fluid into the empty pan, start the engine and let it pump out fluid until it starts spitting air then shut it down and re-install the trans line. Fill it up with more synthetic and you are good for 60-100,000 miles if the cooler is adequate for your application. An example of the good oil, you can get it at Walmart superstores.
http://www.zoro.com/i/G1769677/?utm_...BjkBoCb2zw_wcB

mechanicalman 04-08-2015 04:47 PM

Re: 700r4 pan gasket
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigdav160 (Post 7124732)
I've never seen an OE gasket leak on a 700R4

They won't if applied properly. Once things have been over-tightened it gets dicey. :metal:

cleszkie 04-08-2015 05:05 PM

Re: 700r4 pan gasket
 
On my TH350 pan, i have found that using a very small dab of teflon thread sealant on the bolt threads has stopped all leaking. ATF is very thin, especially when hot, and can work its way past bolt threads and become a leak. Yes, if you have a perfect gasket installation, the gasket should keep any ATF from reaching the bolts, but a perfect installation is not always easy, especially if the pan has some warps by the bolt holes. The teflon thread sealant adds that extra layer of protection against leaks.

mechanicalman 04-08-2015 05:39 PM

Re: 700r4 pan gasket
 
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Originally Posted by cleszkie (Post 7124978)
On my TH350 pan, i have found that using a very small dab of teflon thread sealant on the bolt threads has stopped all leaking. ATF is very thin, especially when hot, and can work its way past bolt threads and become a leak. Yes, if you have a perfect gasket installation, the gasket should keep any ATF from reaching the bolts, but a perfect installation is not always easy, especially if the pan has some warps by the bolt holes. The teflon thread sealant adds that extra layer of protection against leaks.

Oh yeah any bolts that go through the case to an oil source can and will probably leak and Teflon is the fix. Good catch. :metal:

leftybass209 04-08-2015 07:56 PM

Re: 700r4 pan gasket
 
By brand-new pan you don't happen to mean a chromed stamped steel pan do you? The original pan, and aluminum pans are the best- any quality gasket regardless of material with proper bolt torque and tightening sequence= no leaks. I've used cork, and rubber with leak free results.

c20pickup 04-08-2015 08:52 PM

Re: 700r4 pan gasket
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leftybass209 (Post 7125170)
By brand-new pan you don't happen to mean a chromed stamped steel pan do you? The original pan, and aluminum pans are the best- any quality gasket regardless of material with proper bolt torque and tightening sequence= no leaks. I've used cork, and rubber with leak free results.

It was a brand new pan ordered from sunmit i received as a gift, cast aluminum with allen bolts and lock washer, i thought the black rubber gasket would have done a good job at sealing, but i like the idea of a cork gasket with copper spray and sealant on the threads

c20pickup 04-08-2015 08:55 PM

Re: 700r4 pan gasket
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by c20pickup (Post 7125246)
It was a brand new pan ordered from sunmit i received as a gift, cast aluminum with allen bolts and lock washer, i thought the black rubber gasket would have done a good job at sealing, but i like the idea of a cork gasket with copper spray and sealant on the threads


I forgot to mention, when i went to originally install my new pan, and use "factory torque specs" i stripped every single thread out of the aluminum, so i redrilled and heli coiled every single hole.. What torque rating did you guys use to seal your pan? If i remmeber right mine was 26 ftlbs or something like that

clinebarger 04-08-2015 09:07 PM

Re: 700r4 pan gasket
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by c20pickup (Post 7125251)
I forgot to mention, when i went to originally install my new pan, and use "factory torque specs" i stripped every single thread out of the aluminum, so i redrilled and heli coiled every single hole.. What torque rating did you guys use to seal your pan? If i remmeber right mine was 26 ftlbs or something like that

8-9 Ft Lbs is the spec, A GM gasket is the best.

Chucks72Longbed 04-08-2015 09:08 PM

Re: 700r4 pan gasket
 
Are you sure it wasn't inch points? Those bolts are pretty small for 26 foot pounds.

Chucks72Longbed 04-08-2015 09:09 PM

Re: 700r4 pan gasket
 
Inch pounds I meant to say.

c20pickup 04-09-2015 01:12 PM

Re: 700r4 pan gasket
 
I thought 26 ftlbs was pretty steep for small bolts and aluminum threads. 9ftlbs is the correct spec though? Ill try that with a new gasket


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