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71CHEVYSHORTBED402 05-10-2015 12:57 AM

Lower fan shroud and core support mounts?????
 
71 Chevy 402:

I was told long ago my fan shroud is the wrong one. Well, after getting a new one it's confirmed what's on the truck is original. No harm done, there are 3-4 cut outs on the existing shroud all but one completely unnecessary, more on that in a moment. Shame too, because the top is beautiful. Also a crack in an ear. The new one is real nice.

At any rate, the shroud on the truck doesn't seem to want to reach the bottom clips. I would imagine they should go all the way in, but these don't come close. Is this because the core support mounts are bad? I'm replacing them regardless. Suddenly it makes sense why so many of these shrouds are hit by the fan. Mine is held down with two zip ties. Been good for decades. Possible just a poor design? Seems to me four bolts are better than two.

One of the cutouts on the existing shroud is for the hose line from the heater core to near the top of the radiator. Seems the hose connection and shroud are a tight squeeze, after all, someone cut the existing shroud for it (bastads). That said, the shroud tends to want to "form" into that direction (i.e., not straight up and down). May also be the core support mounts? Possibly the wrong radiator? The radiator is approx. 34 1/8" wide. Has anyone else experienced this and what did you do? Update: Must be the radiator is incorrect or the inlet welded to the radiator for the heater core in doesn't suit the original shroud.

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 05-10-2015 02:37 AM

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I suspect I need a wider radiator. That or the heater core in outlet on the radiator closer to the passenger side. Any big block owners have a suggestion for a radiator?

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 05-12-2015 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402 (Post 7165950)
71 Chevy 402:

The stock shroud on the truck doesn't seem to want to reach the bottom clips. I would imagine they should go all the way in, but these don't come close. Is this because the core support mounts are bad? I'm replacing them regardless. Suddenly it makes sense why so many of these shrouds are hit by the fan. Mine is held down with two zip ties. Been good for decades. Possible just a poor design? Seems to me four bolts are better than two.

Any big block owners experience this? What was the cause?

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 05-12-2015 11:11 PM

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?...........I'm sure I can figure it out once I dive in, but doesn't mean I'm not curious. Shroud shrinkage? Ha!

kwmech 05-12-2015 11:14 PM

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I've got 3 trucks set up for big block, 2 with actual big blocks in them. Got a picture of the shroud and the issue?

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 05-13-2015 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kwmech (Post 7169836)
I've got 3 trucks set up for big block, 2 with actual big blocks in them. Got a picture of the shroud and the issue?

I can take a picture if necessary, but it's not going to tell more than words I think. Here's the deal:

The fan shroud on my truck is original (3924932). These shrouds are mounted to the core support with two bolts and retainers at the top, and two clips at the bottom (see picture below for the clips)

Unless the core support or top retainers are incorrect, the top is straight forward. The problem is, with the shroud mounted to the top, the bottom of the shroud doesn't reach to insert into the bottom clips. One side reaches the top of one clip, the other doesn't even do that. Whatever the issue is, I believe this is why so many of these shrouds have been damaged by a fan.

If you ask me, keeping in mind I'm green and haven't dove into the front end yet, seems like a poor GM design. I'd think four bolts are better than two bolts and two clips. Again, this may be that the core support mounts are bad.


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sduckworth13 05-13-2015 01:24 PM

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I had the same issue. I went to the hardware store and bought some small bushings with a hole for the bolt to fill the void area and bolted the radiator shroud down using the holes in the shroud.

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 05-13-2015 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sduckworth13 (Post 7170390)
I had the same issue. I went to the hardware store and bought some small bushings with a hole for the bolt to fill the void area and bolted the radiator shroud down using the holes in the shroud.

That's the other thing, why do these shrouds have a bolt hole at each corner when as I understand it, they don't even bolt at the bottom? Seems I'm missing a piece of the puzzle.

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leddzepp 05-13-2015 01:41 PM

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I'll bet your core support mounts are shot.

67chevemall 05-13-2015 01:46 PM

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Maybe GM was going to bolt it until they realized the shrinkage issue and had the clips made up quick

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 05-13-2015 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by leddzepp (Post 7170417)
I'll bet your core support mounts are shot.

Could be the issue. No doubt I need new mounts. Just not sure that's what causes the problem.

sduckworth13 05-13-2015 01:59 PM

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I'm pretty sure there were holes in my core support that lined up with the bottom hole in my shroud. I thought I was going to crack the shroud to close the gap up on the bottom. It worked out pretty nice.

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 05-13-2015 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sduckworth13 (Post 7170438)
I'm pretty sure there were holes in my core support that lined up with the bottom hole in my shroud. I thought I was going to crack the shroud to close the gap up on the bottom. It worked out pretty nice.

Guess I'll see what you mean during the rebuild. Sounds like you're not using the bottom clips. Note: Also sounds like it could be your core mounts are bad. Don't really know much about it at this point.

sduckworth13 05-13-2015 11:05 PM

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Here are some pictured of my lower shroud setup.

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 05-14-2015 12:02 AM

Re: Lower fan shroud and core support mounts?????
 
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Originally Posted by sduckworth13 (Post 7171158)
Here are some pictured of my lower shroud setup.

Interesting. Looks like it works. Unusual how the shrouds have a hole in each corner, yet the lowers "are supposed to" just seat into the clips. Then as you've shown, the holes on the core line up. Possible the cores were leftover stock from former years where they did bolt up. If true, why the change? It's a dog gone mystery.

Just a thought and you may not like it. If the shrouds no longer reach to properly mount into the clips, because the core support mounts are bad, then if your mounts fail your shroud will be damaged. Something has to give.

sduckworth13 05-14-2015 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402 (Post 7171219)
Interesting. Looks like it works. Unusual how the shrouds have a hole in each corner, yet the lowers "are supposed to" just seat into the clips. Then as you've shown, the holes on the core line up. Possible the cores were leftover stock from former years where they did bolt up. If true, why the change? It's a dog gone mystery.

Just a thought and you won't like it. If the shrouds no longer reach to properly mount into the clips, because the core support mounts are bad, then that doesn't bode well for your shroud dude. Something has to give.

:) I'm sure the mounts are probably disintegrated.

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 05-14-2015 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by sduckworth13 (Post 7171244)
:) I'm sure the mounts are probably disintegrated.

LOL...........Probably so. WTH do I know anyway.


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