Thanks Bam. i thought i was doin good till i went to get the pipe for the holes and found out they dont make the size i need. so im goin to half to grind all the holes just a bit to get pipe to fit. Pipe wasnt to expensive though got a 21' stick of 2" schedule 40 black pipe cause they didnt have 2" in .120 wall. the schedule 40 black pipe is a little thicker than .120, and a 20' stick of 1-1/2" .120 wall. the 2" was $67.00 and the 1-1/2" was $37.00. now i just need to get me a pipe bender. I got all the plates and holes done on the passenger side around the c-notch at least. I like how it came out. different.