Oh, both for sure, and then some. The dealers were/are litteraly shameless. They'd paint their signage on the car door if they thought they could get away with it.
Ever see the dealer engraved rear bumpers? That pretty much says it all! It makes me think of a dealer in a yellow plaid suit with white patent leather shoes yucking it up... "Har har har... let's see em remove my name off that.. .har har har". The dealers are shameless!
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