they both belong to a friend of mine end of june ill get better pics of motors and drivetrains we've had alot of fun building and racing these things the white one has a 413in motor th350 4500 stall 500 shot best time to date is 9.24 1/4 theres video of the orange one on youtube search goodfriday mud bog or charlescity mudbog it has 406in th400 not sure of converter and 250 on the bottle
