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Arekusu · 11-17-2010, 12:11 PM

Ok. So I'm not as serious as most of you guys on this side but I thought I'd ask this one here.

As a project for the future I'd like the 64 to put out more power (and go faster).

What I've been looking at is a BBC (454 ish) or a Vortech super charger on my mild small block 350.

Now I know I could do the whole 383 thing but that seems kinda boring for the money I'd throw at it. I'm not looking for an 11 but I'd like to get it out of the 15's haha.

The 15 was with a 3.73 open carrier, 26'' tire, a TKO-500 and the mild 350 small block. I couldn't really launch the truck because, well, it would just spin. So I took it easy. The corrective action has been the LSD that I just bought.

So what makes more sense.. 454 or under hood supercharger.

This truck is my daily driver and need it to get some gas mileage / street manners. Thanks!

Alex

swb85 · 11-17-2010, 03:31 PM

IMO, it depends on what you have for a "mild" 350 and how much boost we're talking about. If you want to throw more than mediocre boost at it, you really should build the motor to handle it. Cast internals and tight ring gaps usually don't play well (for very long) with forced induction. So if you'd need to upgrade the 350 to handle boost first, then the 454 might be a better option for you......'cept for the gas mileage of course.

Just my $.02

**Hart_Rod** · 11-17-2010, 04:09 PM

I like my 383 stroker AND my Vortech S/C...

!

Arekusu · 11-18-2010, 01:15 AM

SWB 85.. ya that's kind of what I thought. I'm kind of unfamiliar with boost applications. I know forged internals are always better for more power. I'm kind of leaning to the 454 .. But the trouble is finding one around here in a rebuild able state.

Hart_Rod - 383 and the vortech supercharger?! Nice. I have this feeling you live up the street from me.

Any big blocks up there? Know of anywhere to look by chance?

Alex

au03z71 · 11-18-2010, 04:00 AM

Vortech or Turbo... but you're going to have to build the motor... and get a blow through carb.

**Hart_Rod** · 11-18-2010, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arekusu

Hart_Rod - 383 and the vortech supercharger?! Nice. I have this feeling you live up the street from me.

Any big blocks up there? Know of anywhere to look by chance?

Alex

I'm not to far from you.....Let me know if you're ever over this way. I don't have any leads on big blocks. Keep an eye on Craigslist, I see a few pop up there every once in a while.

Gobbles · 11-18-2010, 11:39 AM

BBC would likely be easier choice, I love mine, who needs MPG's

. I want to beef it up one day for it's own blower.

Arekusu · 11-18-2010, 10:59 PM

Heart Rod - will do.

I am kind of wondering what someone would get for MPG with a 5-speed and 3.73's with a bbc. I have no clue myself. I get 16 mpg highway now in the truck.

*stich626* · 11-19-2010, 08:33 AM

K.I.S.S.
THE VORTEX is what 2500.00 then add the carb and belts extra pullies
to get the power of a n/a bbc
want power get a screw blower..

vincentgkirkland · 11-19-2010, 09:02 AM

Big block

ripdog28 · 11-19-2010, 11:28 AM

By the time you rebuild your SBC to handle the power, you will be in BBC territory. I can not argue against the BBC as i have not really laid into mine hard yet and it already is nasty. Plus, when someone says, "Is that a Big Block." you can not help but

. Usually when someone ask the other question, "What you got in it?" the response is, "JUST a small block."

chopttop · 11-20-2010, 08:39 PM

just picked up a late 80's 454 in a donor truck while looking for parts to put disks on my '70 C30, will now replace the 350 w/da 454. My first big block.

11-17-2010, 12:11 PM	#1
Arekusu Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tacoma, Wa Posts: 334	Vortech SC or BBC? Ok. So I'm not as serious as most of you guys on this side but I thought I'd ask this one here. As a project for the future I'd like the 64 to put out more power (and go faster). What I've been looking at is a BBC (454 ish) or a Vortech super charger on my mild small block 350. Now I know I could do the whole 383 thing but that seems kinda boring for the money I'd throw at it. I'm not looking for an 11 but I'd like to get it out of the 15's haha. The 15 was with a 3.73 open carrier, 26'' tire, a TKO-500 and the mild 350 small block. I couldn't really launch the truck because, well, it would just spin. So I took it easy. The corrective action has been the LSD that I just bought. So what makes more sense.. 454 or under hood supercharger. This truck is my daily driver and need it to get some gas mileage / street manners. Thanks! Alex

11-17-2010, 03:31 PM	#2
swb85 On a budget like Fred Sanford Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 2,031	Re: Vortech SC or BBC? IMO, it depends on what you have for a "mild" 350 and how much boost we're talking about. If you want to throw more than mediocre boost at it, you really should build the motor to handle it. Cast internals and tight ring gaps usually don't play well (for very long) with forced induction. So if you'd need to upgrade the 350 to handle boost first, then the 454 might be a better option for you......'cept for the gas mileage of course. Just my $.02 __________________ '85 Silverado swb: 383 stroker, 10.5:1, vortec heads, 232/238 roller cam, RPM air gap, performer 750 carb, stainless longtubes, 3" duals/super 44's, T56/4.11 383ci build / exterior refresh thread '98 Camaro z28: 370ci twin turbo 370ci build '01 Tahoe LT 4x4: 5.3, longtubes/ory, magnaflow duals, custom tune....wife's DD

11-17-2010, 04:09 PM	#3
Hart_Rod ************* Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 17,837	Re: Vortech SC or BBC? I like my 383 stroker AND my Vortech S/C...! __________________ Rob - https://www.instagram.com/hart_rod_c10 As Iron Sharpens Iron, So One Man Sharpens Another. Proverbs 27:17 FOR SALE: DBW pedal bracket - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=651123 FOR SALE: Hood Brackets http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=679945 1987 Silverado SWB - 34.5K original miles http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=801834 1969 SuperBurb - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=200387 1968 Farm truck - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=358692 1968 SWB - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=551258 1948 Chevy - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=122164&page=3

11-18-2010, 01:15 AM	#4
Arekusu Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tacoma, Wa Posts: 334	Re: Vortech SC or BBC? SWB 85.. ya that's kind of what I thought. I'm kind of unfamiliar with boost applications. I know forged internals are always better for more power. I'm kind of leaning to the 454 .. But the trouble is finding one around here in a rebuild able state. Hart_Rod - 383 and the vortech supercharger?! Nice. I have this feeling you live up the street from me. Any big blocks up there? Know of anywhere to look by chance? Alex

11-18-2010, 04:00 AM	#5
au03z71 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: alabama Posts: 647	Re: Vortech SC or BBC? Vortech or Turbo... but you're going to have to build the motor... and get a blow through carb. Last edited by au03z71; 11-18-2010 at 04:01 AM.

11-18-2010, 11:39 AM	#7
Gobbles Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: British Columbia Posts: 484	Re: Vortech SC or BBC? BBC would likely be easier choice, I love mine, who needs MPG's . I want to beef it up one day for it's own blower. __________________ Trevor "You already said spite"

11-18-2010, 10:59 PM	#8
Arekusu Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tacoma, Wa Posts: 334	Re: Vortech SC or BBC? Heart Rod - will do. I am kind of wondering what someone would get for MPG with a 5-speed and 3.73's with a bbc. I have no clue myself. I get 16 mpg highway now in the truck.

11-19-2010, 08:33 AM	#9
stich626 Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: hingham ma Posts: 1,721	Re: Vortech SC or BBC? K.I.S.S. THE VORTEX is what 2500.00 then add the carb and belts extra pullies to get the power of a n/a bbc want power get a screw blower..

11-19-2010, 09:02 AM	#10
vincentgkirkland Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: lucedale Posts: 49	Re: Vortech SC or BBC? Big block

11-19-2010, 11:28 AM	#11
ripdog28 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imperial Beach, CA Posts: 1,040	Re: Vortech SC or BBC? By the time you rebuild your SBC to handle the power, you will be in BBC territory. I can not argue against the BBC as i have not really laid into mine hard yet and it already is nasty. Plus, when someone says, "Is that a Big Block." you can not help but . Usually when someone ask the other question, "What you got in it?" the response is, "JUST a small block." __________________ 69 c-10 BBC 462ci, forged crank, H-beam rods, 10.5-1 KB forged pistons, Dart Iron Eagle 308cc, Straub Cam, Comp Cams chrome moly full rollers, Weiand Team G, Prosystems 950, TH400/3500 Dalenzie stall, Currie 9+ Detroit Locker w/31spline axles.3.5/6in drop. My Build.

11-20-2010, 08:39 PM	#12
chopttop Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 151	Re: Vortech SC or BBC? just picked up a late 80's 454 in a donor truck while looking for parts to put disks on my '70 C30, will now replace the 350 w/da 454. My first big block. __________________ '71 C10, Choptop/Lowered '70 C30, w/24' Franklin Motor '91 9c1 Caprice '90 Harley FL, 127 Ultima engine w/6 speed, Blk & chrome



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