The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1960 - 1966 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-14-2014, 03:37 PM   #1
Hotrod1952
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Sioux Center IA
Posts: 184
Ignition Switch Wiring

I am using a wiring harness, ECM, & TBI engine out of a 1987 R20 in my 66 C20. I want to use the ignition switch from the 66 and integrate it into the wiring harness of the 87. I have looked at both diagrams and am a bit confused on a couple.


66 Switch----------Function------------87 Harness
Connector

Red----------------Battery + ------------Red - 2qty
Purple-------------Starter Solenoid------Purple
Pink---------------Distributor or ECM----Pink
Dark Green-------Ground- gauges?-----Tan/white - brake switch ground?
Brown/White-----Accy- Fuse box-------Brown and Orange?


Sound right???
Hotrod1952 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2014, 09:41 PM   #2
PGSigns
Senior Member
 
PGSigns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Hayes Va
Posts: 4,569
Re: Ignition Switch Wiring

You are going to need a later model higher amp capacity switch to carry the load like come with the American auto wire kits. The stock switch will not carry the load.
Jimmy
__________________
60 to 66 Chevy and GMC window decals
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=661131
Good friends, good food and a hotrod what else do you need?
1966 BBW long fleet Daily driver
1965 BBW short fleet Sold and going to a good home
1965 Suburban
2003 3500 Duramax
2005 Ultra Classic
PGSigns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2014, 11:06 PM   #3
66LSx
Registered User
 
66LSx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Green Bay, WI
Posts: 435
Re: Ignition Switch Wiring

Quote:
Originally Posted by PGSigns View Post
You are going to need a later model higher amp capacity switch to carry the load like come with the American auto wire kits. The stock switch will not carry the load.
Jimmy
Could always have one of the 12V+ switch ignition sources trigger a relay... which than on its high load circuit could carry the job of all of the 12V high-amp distribution. (fused/circuit breaked accordingly to load)

(on the 30->87 circuit)
__________________
1966 C10 SWB Fleet
5.3L LM7 Vortec / 4L60e Swap
1966 C10 w/ 5.3L/4L60e Build Thread
2012 GMC Sierra 5.3L 4x4 CCSB
66LSx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2014, 11:36 PM   #4
Hotrod1952
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Sioux Center IA
Posts: 184
Re: Ignition Switch Wiring

Good call PgSigns. I never thought about the amps. Since my ignition key also works the doors I might have to look into a relay like 66Lsx mentioned. Do I have the connecting wires correct?
Hotrod1952 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2014, 12:34 AM   #5
Captainfab
60-66 Nut

 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho
Posts: 23,246
Re: Ignition Switch Wiring

X2 on the relay.
__________________
Power Steering Box Adapter Plates For Sale HERE
Power Brake Booster Adapter Brackets For Sale '63-'66 HERE and '67-'72 HERE and '60-'62 HERE and "60-'62 with clutch HERE
Rear Disc Brake Brackets For Sale. Impala SS calipers HERE Camaro Calipers HERE D52 Calipers HERE 6 Lug HERE
Hydroboost Mounting Plates HERE
Captainfab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2014, 06:36 AM   #6
PGSigns
Senior Member
 
PGSigns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Hayes Va
Posts: 4,569
Re: Ignition Switch Wiring

I would have to sit down with the wiring diagrams for both trucks. That I don't have time for. You can get the switch you need and the connectors for it from AAW. I would do that over relays to keep it simple. Cost would be about the same. Your headlight switch is gonna be that same way. Gonna need a late model switch or the one out of the donor.
Jimmy
__________________
60 to 66 Chevy and GMC window decals
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=661131
Good friends, good food and a hotrod what else do you need?
1966 BBW long fleet Daily driver
1965 BBW short fleet Sold and going to a good home
1965 Suburban
2003 3500 Duramax
2005 Ultra Classic
PGSigns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2014, 05:34 PM   #7
ray_mcavoy
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Sherman, ME
Posts: 2,358
Re: Ignition Switch Wiring

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hotrod1952 View Post
Good call PgSigns. I never thought about the amps. Since my ignition key also works the doors I might have to look into a relay like 66Lsx mentioned.
I agree with the recommendations of using the AAW switch or relays. I don't know for sure but I think you might be able to use your original lock cylinder in the AAW switch so you can keep your original key.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hotrod1952 View Post
Do I have the connecting wires correct?
Yes, it looks like you've identified most of the wires correctly. Just to expand on things a bit:

The 87 wiring is likely to have a yellow wire (instead of purple) running from the ignition switch "SOL" terminal to the neutral safety switch. It should transition to a purple wire for the section that runs from the neutral safety switch to the starter solenoid though.

The dark green and tan/white wires are both switched to ground to illuminate the "TEMP" and "BRAKE" warning lights as a "bulb check" feature when cranking the engine. Dark green is for the temp light and will not be needed if your truck has a temperature gauge instead of a light. Tan/white is for the brake warning light and will only be needed if you're adding one of these lights to your 66 cluster.

The brown/white wire is the alternator "exciter" wire and is a special resistance wire. If the 87 harness came from a truck that had factory gauges then it should have a similar brown/white resistance wire connected to the same terminal as the orange wire. But if it came from an 87 that had a warning light cluster then it will have the alternator "exciter" wire routed through the alternator warning light. You may or may not need this circuit depending on the alternator you'll be using.
ray_mcavoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2014, 07:48 PM   #8
Hotrod1952
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Sioux Center IA
Posts: 184
Re: Ignition Switch Wiring

Thanks for the great info! I did not know about the alternator exciter. I learn something new every day!
Hotrod1952 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2014, 08:50 PM   #9
ray_mcavoy
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Sherman, ME
Posts: 2,358
Re: Ignition Switch Wiring

You're welcome!

And a bit more info on that alternator "exciter" wire ... Most of the stock ones are a section of 2Ω per foot resistance wire that's about 5 feet long (for a total of about 10Ω). That's good if you're using a 10SI or 12SI internally regulated alternator. You'll need to add more resistance to the circuit if you're using a newer CS alternator though. And you won't have to worry about that wire at all if you're using a "1 wire" alternator.
ray_mcavoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:26 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com