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LeRoy · 10-16-2003, 05:59 AM

It works good, been converted to a floor shift, missing some of the gizmos. Doesn't have the linkage to shift into overdrive. The electrical thingy is still attached. OLD IRON gave me a brief rundown on the operation and it must be stuck in OD as he said it wouldn't go into gear unless it was. I agree as the shifter thingy is wire tied in position and 1st gear is alot higher then any other stick I've driven. As you can tell I know almost nothing about these other then they are kind of a rare tranny. I don't have the right speedo spud to so no speedo hookup at this time. $75 OBO

**HOTFUN** · 10-16-2003, 06:30 AM

Is it the Saginaw transmission or the BW trany? Or is the cast code on the side of the case R10 H1 or R10 Q1? I am interested if it is the Saginaw R10 Q1.
HF

LeRoy · 10-16-2003, 06:34 AM

I have no idea. I'd have to check on that

LeRoy · 10-16-2003, 09:42 PM

ttt

**HOTFUN** · 10-16-2003, 10:11 PM

Leroy

I am very interested, and a quick ID is does the shifter lever(s) cover plate have 4 bolts or seven holding the plate on? If it is 7 it is a saginaw and will have a Q1 or maybe an R1 code. Do you have the overdrive cable from the dash to the trany?

Thanks
Mark

LeRoy · 10-17-2003, 11:51 PM

I'll check that out as soon as it quits raining. lol I don't have any cables or anything. I don't think this tranny came with this truck originally. Looks like they just locked it into OD and that's how it runs.

LeRoy · 10-19-2003, 11:31 PM

It has the 4 bolt cover so it's a BW tranny? What's BW stand for?

**fine69** · 10-20-2003, 01:23 AM

BorgWarner

**HOTFUN** · 10-25-2003, 03:00 PM

Leroy

I am looking for the Saginaw 7 bolt cover style. Yours is a 55- 64 style Borg Warner. The Saginaw was used from 65 to 69.
Thanks for checking.
HF

LeRoy · 10-26-2003, 12:06 AM

No problem. What's so special about the Saginaw. Is it stronger then the Borg warner. Just wondering, for future reference. Still available if anyone needs it

**HOTFUN** · 10-26-2003, 09:27 AM

Leroy
The later Saginaw has a fully synchroed first gear. They are not very common of the overdrives as this market was winding down by 1965 with the 3 speed automatics comming in. I have a rare Saginaw OD that came from a 69 Chevelle with a 307 but someone dropped and cracked the rear case and solenoid. I have looked everywhere for one for parts or a case without any luck.

Mark

LeRoy · 10-26-2003, 01:45 PM

Thanks for the info. I'll keep an eye out now that I know what I'm looking for.

bad 71 chevy · 10-26-2003, 06:27 PM

Hear are some guy that have stuff for the 4 speed trans
http://www.5speeds.com/newm22.html

10-16-2003, 05:59 AM	#1
LeRoy Registered truck nut Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mt. Vernon, Washington, USA Posts: 1,584	3spd. Overdrive F.S. It works good, been converted to a floor shift, missing some of the gizmos. Doesn't have the linkage to shift into overdrive. The electrical thingy is still attached. OLD IRON gave me a brief rundown on the operation and it must be stuck in OD as he said it wouldn't go into gear unless it was. I agree as the shifter thingy is wire tied in position and 1st gear is alot higher then any other stick I've driven. As you can tell I know almost nothing about these other then they are kind of a rare tranny. I don't have the right speedo spud to so no speedo hookup at this time. $75 OBO __________________ MOUNT VERNON, WASH. STATE Need a part? Just PM me

10-16-2003, 06:30 AM	#2
HOTFUN Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 2,142	Is it the Saginaw transmission or the BW trany? Or is the cast code on the side of the case R10 H1 or R10 Q1? I am interested if it is the Saginaw R10 Q1. HF __________________ '66 CST BBW swb fleet 327 fac ac '67 CST 4x4 swb 327 stepside project '72 Cheyenne K20 50k original '72 Cheyenne Super K20 project '73 Sierra swb 4x4 frame off in paint stage '74 Cheyenne Super swb w/16k actual '71 & 72 Cheyenne K10 4x4 swb's '70 426 HEMICUDA conv SHAKER 4 sp Dana 60 '60 Impala conv 327 PG fac ac loaded 3rd owner '72 GMC K2500 4x4 '59 Apache CST BBW fleetside swb 283 '73 ElCamino SS LS1 T56 true SS bucket tach '76 ElCamino SS 52k survivor '87 Grand National 41k True 2nd to last built in 1987. '86 K30 454 SRW fleetside CA since new '88 Trans Am GTA 39k bought new 2018 DEMON plum crazy @ 840HP! "Need for speed"

10-16-2003, 06:34 AM	#3
LeRoy Registered truck nut Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mt. Vernon, Washington, USA Posts: 1,584	I have no idea. I'd have to check on that __________________ MOUNT VERNON, WASH. STATE Need a part? Just PM me

10-16-2003, 09:42 PM	#4
LeRoy Registered truck nut Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mt. Vernon, Washington, USA Posts: 1,584	ttt __________________ MOUNT VERNON, WASH. STATE Need a part? Just PM me

10-16-2003, 10:11 PM	#5
HOTFUN Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 2,142	Leroy I am very interested, and a quick ID is does the shifter lever(s) cover plate have 4 bolts or seven holding the plate on? If it is 7 it is a saginaw and will have a Q1 or maybe an R1 code. Do you have the overdrive cable from the dash to the trany? Thanks Mark __________________ '66 CST BBW swb fleet 327 fac ac '67 CST 4x4 swb 327 stepside project '72 Cheyenne K20 50k original '72 Cheyenne Super K20 project '73 Sierra swb 4x4 frame off in paint stage '74 Cheyenne Super swb w/16k actual '71 & 72 Cheyenne K10 4x4 swb's '70 426 HEMICUDA conv SHAKER 4 sp Dana 60 '60 Impala conv 327 PG fac ac loaded 3rd owner '72 GMC K2500 4x4 '59 Apache CST BBW fleetside swb 283 '73 ElCamino SS LS1 T56 true SS bucket tach '76 ElCamino SS 52k survivor '87 Grand National 41k True 2nd to last built in 1987. '86 K30 454 SRW fleetside CA since new '88 Trans Am GTA 39k bought new 2018 DEMON plum crazy @ 840HP! "Need for speed"

10-17-2003, 11:51 PM	#6
LeRoy Registered truck nut Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mt. Vernon, Washington, USA Posts: 1,584	I'll check that out as soon as it quits raining. lol I don't have any cables or anything. I don't think this tranny came with this truck originally. Looks like they just locked it into OD and that's how it runs. __________________ MOUNT VERNON, WASH. STATE Need a part? Just PM me

10-19-2003, 11:31 PM	#7
LeRoy Registered truck nut Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mt. Vernon, Washington, USA Posts: 1,584	It has the 4 bolt cover so it's a BW tranny? What's BW stand for? __________________ MOUNT VERNON, WASH. STATE Need a part? Just PM me

10-20-2003, 01:23 AM	#8
fine69 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Urbana,Ohio,USA Posts: 4,618	BorgWarner

10-25-2003, 03:00 PM	#9
HOTFUN Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 2,142	Leroy I am looking for the Saginaw 7 bolt cover style. Yours is a 55- 64 style Borg Warner. The Saginaw was used from 65 to 69. Thanks for checking. HF __________________ '66 CST BBW swb fleet 327 fac ac '67 CST 4x4 swb 327 stepside project '72 Cheyenne K20 50k original '72 Cheyenne Super K20 project '73 Sierra swb 4x4 frame off in paint stage '74 Cheyenne Super swb w/16k actual '71 & 72 Cheyenne K10 4x4 swb's '70 426 HEMICUDA conv SHAKER 4 sp Dana 60 '60 Impala conv 327 PG fac ac loaded 3rd owner '72 GMC K2500 4x4 '59 Apache CST BBW fleetside swb 283 '73 ElCamino SS LS1 T56 true SS bucket tach '76 ElCamino SS 52k survivor '87 Grand National 41k True 2nd to last built in 1987. '86 K30 454 SRW fleetside CA since new '88 Trans Am GTA 39k bought new 2018 DEMON plum crazy @ 840HP! "Need for speed"

10-26-2003, 12:06 AM	#10
LeRoy Registered truck nut Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mt. Vernon, Washington, USA Posts: 1,584	No problem. What's so special about the Saginaw. Is it stronger then the Borg warner. Just wondering, for future reference. Still available if anyone needs it __________________ MOUNT VERNON, WASH. STATE Need a part? Just PM me

10-26-2003, 09:27 AM	#11
HOTFUN Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 2,142	Leroy The later Saginaw has a fully synchroed first gear. They are not very common of the overdrives as this market was winding down by 1965 with the 3 speed automatics comming in. I have a rare Saginaw OD that came from a 69 Chevelle with a 307 but someone dropped and cracked the rear case and solenoid. I have looked everywhere for one for parts or a case without any luck. Mark __________________ '66 CST BBW swb fleet 327 fac ac '67 CST 4x4 swb 327 stepside project '72 Cheyenne K20 50k original '72 Cheyenne Super K20 project '73 Sierra swb 4x4 frame off in paint stage '74 Cheyenne Super swb w/16k actual '71 & 72 Cheyenne K10 4x4 swb's '70 426 HEMICUDA conv SHAKER 4 sp Dana 60 '60 Impala conv 327 PG fac ac loaded 3rd owner '72 GMC K2500 4x4 '59 Apache CST BBW fleetside swb 283 '73 ElCamino SS LS1 T56 true SS bucket tach '76 ElCamino SS 52k survivor '87 Grand National 41k True 2nd to last built in 1987. '86 K30 454 SRW fleetside CA since new '88 Trans Am GTA 39k bought new 2018 DEMON plum crazy @ 840HP! "Need for speed"

10-26-2003, 01:45 PM	#12
LeRoy Registered truck nut Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mt. Vernon, Washington, USA Posts: 1,584	Thanks for the info. I'll keep an eye out now that I know what I'm looking for. __________________ MOUNT VERNON, WASH. STATE Need a part? Just PM me

10-26-2003, 06:27 PM	#13
bad 71 chevy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Omaha NE 68122 Posts: 637	Hear are some guy that have stuff for the 4 speed trans http://www.5speeds.com/newm22.html __________________ 71 Chevy C/10 lwb 350 5 speed nv3500 3.73 rear end 2.5" Front Drop and 4" in the back Edelbrock perfomer rpm manifold Edelbrock 600 cfm carb Headmen headers



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