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Old 08-04-2023, 07:20 AM   #1
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What this #2

I need to R&R my broken antenna. Found some good threads on this site...TYVM.
Started looking at the truck, found cardboard in between the fender and inner panel. Same was found on the driver side as well.



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Old 08-04-2023, 07:38 AM   #2
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front fender seal maybe?
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Old 08-04-2023, 12:02 PM   #3
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Fender seal for noise reduction. Only found on 72 full load trucks IIRC.
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Old 08-04-2023, 02:35 PM   #4
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That is the 1967-72 Front Fender Dust Shields Part # 998215

They are attached to small metal brackets by using brass staples. The brackets themselves are not reproduced only the dust shields. Ours include 3 pieces per side = 6 total pieces and the required brass staples that are needed to install them onto the original metal brackets. Found on the following page of our website
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Old 08-04-2023, 02:40 PM   #5
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Aren't those provided with the CST option? My '70 has them. I'm going to go and look for those other items in A1971Blazer's picture.
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Old 08-04-2023, 02:43 PM   #6
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Aren't those provided with the CST option? My '70 has them. I'm going to go and look for those other items in A1971Blazer's picture.
That's from the LMC Truck website
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Old 08-04-2023, 03:11 PM   #7
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I believe these are standard for Z84 and YE9 (i.e. CST/Cheyenne and Cheyenne Supers - assume same is true on equivalent GMC trim levels).
EDIT: would like to confirm whether these were on Z84 in all years - or does anyone have these on a 71+ Z84 Cheyenne?

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Old 08-04-2023, 03:13 PM   #8
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or does anyone have these on a 71+ Z84 Cheyenne?
I have on my '72 Cheyenne. Like others mentioned this was included in that extra sound deadening for Cheyenne/Super...perhaps the CST had them.
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Old 08-04-2023, 03:29 PM   #9
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I can vouch that the aftermarket replacements are junk.
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Old 08-04-2023, 03:31 PM   #10
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I bought a 69 CST parts truck and they were on it.
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My '69 CST/20 has them.
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Old 08-05-2023, 04:18 AM   #12
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That is the 1967-72 Front Fender Dust Shields Part # 998215

They are attached to small metal brackets by using brass staples. The brackets themselves are not reproduced only the dust shields. Ours include 3 pieces per side = 6 total pieces and the required brass staples that are needed to install them onto the original metal brackets. Found on the following page of our website
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Do you have any sort of assembly instructions? I cannot find them anywhere. Will purchase another set they are included.
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Old 08-05-2023, 04:21 AM   #13
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Aren't those provided with the CST option? My '70 has them. I'm going to go and look for those other items in A1971Blazer's picture.
Would be a real help to look at yours next time I see you if still intact.
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I have them on my 71 Grande
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Old 08-05-2023, 07:58 AM   #15
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the inner fender shields are on my 72 Cheyenne Super,i replaced them as the first painter guy that did my truck,painted them the nicest shade of white??the repro's weren't great,had to finish assembling them and make staples but they're on and look ok.my truck as per the build sheet is,Fremont built Z84 Custom Sport Truck and YE9 Cheyenne Super.
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Would be a real help to look at yours next time I see you if still intact.
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Old 08-05-2023, 09:44 AM   #17
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I would like to find a templet of the brackets so I could make me a set.

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Old 08-05-2023, 12:48 PM   #18
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Re: What this #2

A reminder to get mine on. It seems when my 72 Cheyenne went through it's work from the previous owner they did not put these back on and it annoys me.

I bought a set off the forums awhile back but the seals (felt?) need to be replaced. Which that doesn't look like fun. But my biggest problem (for me) is that I am pretty sure you need to remove the fenders and then everything else to get them off... thus the parts are in my attic - aka deep storage!

I am interested in updated information when someone replaces their seals onto the brackets. Heck I'd love to see a video on that and then getting them installed properly!
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A interesting thought for you Woody - I could send you my "set" and give you the $20 for GMC Pauls "Front fender dust shields". You use my set to make your brackets/dust shields. Then you send my set back painted/refurbished ready for install for me.
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this may not help but here's the new seals back on my original brackets and back on the truck.the old ones laying on the floor and i'd say there's no way to change them without removing the front fenders,you'd never get to the little screws.
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While looking for something else, I found this in the Chevy 67-72 assembly manual.

Though I am not to sure what that "spacer" is about near the top of the seal (item 3).
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A interesting thought for you Woody - I could send you my "set" and give you the $20 for GMC Pauls "Front fender dust shields". You use my set to make your brackets/dust shields. Then you send my set back painted/refurbished ready for install for me.
Richard, Thanks for the offer but I'm going to pass.

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Richard, Thanks for the offer but I'm going to pass.

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That's okay, figured I'd try since you didn't have the brackets.

I went ahead and ordered the parts from GMC Pauls. I also found these two older posts that I have saved, one talks about the spacer and the other talks about fitting the parts on to the bracket with a number of great photos.

This whole thread is a great read/review: Pillar Fender Seals

Post #5 talks about the spacer and why it was used: 67-72 Front Fender Dust Shields
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I'd figured I would ask about the screws. I pulled my Pillar/Fender Seals from the attic that I got from a forum member a few years back. It came with some screws but not all of them. I not 100% sure they are all the correct length/originals?

I believe each side takes 9 screws, 3 in the Plenum and then 6 in the hinge pillar - assuming I am reading the assembly page correctly. I have a total of 15 screws. I even have one spacer!

There are three different sizes in length but are all Black Oxide, 5/16.
  • 3 longer
  • 11 a bit shorter - which one of these looks more like a self tapping screw.
  • 1 short one.
    The shortest on had the spacer on and it was a bugger to get of as it had rusted itself to the screw. I think the assembly page is saying a spacer would be used where the screw is going onto the seal. So spacer into seal, then screw it in? Meaning the "collar" of the spacer slides into the seal.


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this may not help but here's the new seals back on my original brackets and back on the truck.the old ones laying on the floor and i'd say there's no way to change them without removing the front fenders,you'd never get to the little screws.
Mr. Mud1, what was the total count of screws you used - looks like you might have replaced a few? Might you recall what you did about the "spacer"?

My guess on the screws, they are Black Oxide, 5/16 #8-1/2 sheet metal screws? This is going by the one screw I had with the spacer.
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I'd figured I would ask about the screws. I pulled my Pillar/Fender Seals from the attic that I got from a forum member a few years back. It came with some screws but not all of them. I not 100% sure they are all the correct length/originals?

I believe each side takes 9 screws, 3 in the Plenum and then 6 in the hinge pillar - assuming I am reading the assembly page correctly. I have a total of 15 screws. I even have one spacer!

There are three different sizes in length but are all Black Oxide, 5/16.
  • 3 longer
  • 11 a bit shorter - which one of these looks more like a self tapping screw.
  • 1 short one.
    The shortest on had the spacer on and it was a bugger to get of as it had rusted itself to the screw. I think the assembly page is saying a spacer would be used where the screw is going onto the seal. So spacer into seal, then screw it in? Meaning the "collar" of the spacer slides into the seal.



Mr. Mud1, what was the total count of screws you used - looks like you might have replaced a few? Might you recall what you did about the "spacer"?

My guess on the screws, they are Black Oxide, 5/16 #8-1/2 sheet metal screws? This is going by the one screw I had with the spacer.
hi,sorry i didn't take more/better pictures when i was at that stage.i don't remember how many screws i used but i do know i used the same amount as what came out and i did replace a few that were rusty or that wouldn't "bite" into the hole.it seems to me,the collar on the spacer was in the hole of the seal so that the screw stopped and didn't crush the seal?if that makes sense?
i already had another fella ask for the pictures i posted here,emailed to him i guess so he could emlarge them for a better look,i can do that for you if that's a help or if pictures of my old seals helps,just let me know or message me your email.take care.Greg
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