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wannabeburbowner · 01-04-2005, 01:02 AM

This might seem like a simple questions to you more experienced guys. I am new to the truck scene, and just bought a 71 chevy LWB. I don't know what the model is, I am not sure how to tell. There are no emblems on it, no door panels, just a plain black seat. What are the "clues" to tell me what it is?? On the title it says that the model is GS1, what does this mean?? The VIN is CS1411615200. So this means that it was originally a six cylinder with a TH350 right?? Is there any way to see what gear ratio I have too, without taking off the cover?? Also, my uncle gave more some door panels. They are black with woodgrain on them. They are not completey flat, seem to be molded plastic. What did these come out of?? I need armrests for those door panels if anybody has some. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Travis

Rod · 01-04-2005, 01:16 AM

Looks like C10 to me.

Bob Moore · 01-04-2005, 01:28 AM

The door panels sound like 72's. They can be made to fit but require different door remotes and window regulators due to increased depth of the panels.

swede413 · 01-04-2005, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rod

Looks like C10 to me.

I have to agree
is the opition sheet on the inside of the glovebox door?

wyoman64 · 01-04-2005, 01:35 AM

http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/Chevyear.html

wannabeburbowner · 01-04-2005, 01:40 AM

Yes, I do think that that sticker is in the glove box. I will look tommorrow and post on here what I find.

Bob, are you saying that 72's have a different door on the inside??

Robert1970C20rstbukt · 01-04-2005, 01:59 AM

Judging by the re-enforcement screw under the vent window on the door I'd say you have a '72 there. It also has the plastic fasteners for the door panels too.

wannabeburbowner · 01-04-2005, 02:06 AM

Title says 71, door could have been switched though.

silvertonguedevil · 01-04-2005, 02:23 AM

Does your rear-view mirror attach to the windshield or does it have an arm that attaches to the inside of the roof?

wannabeburbowner · 01-04-2005, 03:00 AM

It has an arm, but I am thinking that it might be home made. Can you get a picture of the factory rearview mirror with that arm and post it on here??

**special-K** · 01-04-2005, 08:55 AM

There would be a raised sort of badge/shield shaped mount formed into the header panel if a`71.Doors are`72,swapped if `71 truck.Arm rest pads available from vendors in factory colors.To find axle ratio,if no tab in diff cover bolt,mark tire and ground(like meter-maid)jack-up rear,mark yoke and diff housing,count how many times the wheel turns for the yoke to turn once.About 3 3/4=3.73,4+=4.10/11...Have fun with your truck.

67ChevyRedneck · 01-04-2005, 09:46 AM

My guess is that you have a Chevy! But seriously...can't you tell a C10 from a C20/30 by the hubs?? Correct me if I am wrong but a C10 has 5 or 6 lugs and C20/30 have 8 lugs?? Looks like a C10

wannabeburbowner · 01-04-2005, 09:11 PM

Here are the numbers that I found in the glove box. I can't really figure them out. It doesn't match the set-up that the example is.

V.I.N. CCE1421 105677 SE-FT0601866
Model # CE10934

So what does this tell me?? What is SE??

Thanks,

Travis

71Shortbed · 01-04-2005, 09:42 PM

Post a picture of the glovebox sticker if you can.....

Longhorn Man · 01-04-2005, 09:45 PM

You need to look at the VIN in the door jamb...you may have been given the wront title.
You said the title calls it a 72...but that VIN...it says '72.

roger0080 · 01-05-2005, 09:12 PM

yes, please post a pic of the glove box sticker.

**special-K** · 01-05-2005, 10:11 PM

Make sure the paint on the inside of the glovebox door matches paint elsewhere.Especially the cab.

68w/sbc406 · 01-06-2005, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck

My guess is that you have a Chevy! But seriously...can't you tell a C10 from a C20/30 by the hubs?? Correct me if I am wrong but a C10 has 5 or 6 lugs and C20/30 have 8 lugs?? Looks like a C10

he is asking about the grade of truck. c-10 is bone stock kinda thing, and a CST is a upgraded interior

wannabeburbowner · 01-06-2005, 12:35 AM

So what emblems should be on my truck (if any) and where?? Would the emblems be the same for 71 and 72?? As of right now everything is primered gray, i will try to scrape off some primer to see the paint. Is there any way to strip the primer and not the paint??

I will try to take some pictures of the glove box door and the door jam. Is that where the VIN is located on these trucks...under the door latch?? Won't stop raining over here, won't be able to get the truck out of the yard untill everything freezes.

longhorn71 · 01-06-2005, 03:25 AM

if the truck has been repanited.look behind the gas tank in the cab.It is a place in these trucks that is usally not faded or repanited.this is the best place to get an idea of what the oringnial color looked like.

wannabeburbowner · 01-06-2005, 04:56 PM

I looked at the VIN tag today.

Title= CS1411615200
Tag= CS1411615000

So it still isn't a match is it??

I attached some pictures, but I can't shrink the vin tag down enough and still be able to read it. You guys can play with it if you want. How do you like the first pic?? That's my uncle's back yard, the truck is sitting to the far right. I had to walk through about 5" of water to take these pics. The sacrifices we make for our and vehicles.

roger0080 · 01-07-2005, 12:10 AM

If you email me the picture of the glovebox option sheet I will try to crop/make bigger and post it back here for you. Send it to roger0080@netscape.net

-Roger

mblackburnjr · 01-07-2005, 12:18 AM

By looking at the numbers you are giving ....15200,and....15000. I would say someone at one time messed up when changing the title,if not originally.....Arent the last few #'s just the build #'s...As in 15200th truck built. The rest match right?

wannabeburbowner · 01-07-2005, 01:28 AM

Yeah, I think that it is just the production number. So it is off by 200. Everything else matches on the VIN. I am guessing that somebody swapped cabs, and then put the VIN from the original cab in this one. I would hate to ask at the Title office to have them change it to 15200. They might not do it at all, then I would be screwed. Should I just keep my mouth shut and take the chance?? I didn't get the title changed over yet.

Longhorn Man · 01-07-2005, 05:53 AM

does it have an out of state title? If so, you will have to jump through some hoops.

01-04-2005, 01:02 AM	#1
wannabeburbowner Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New Philadelphia, Ohio Posts: 253	What model truck do I have??? This might seem like a simple questions to you more experienced guys. I am new to the truck scene, and just bought a 71 chevy LWB. I don't know what the model is, I am not sure how to tell. There are no emblems on it, no door panels, just a plain black seat. What are the "clues" to tell me what it is?? On the title it says that the model is GS1, what does this mean?? The VIN is CS1411615200. So this means that it was originally a six cylinder with a TH350 right?? Is there any way to see what gear ratio I have too, without taking off the cover?? Also, my uncle gave more some door panels. They are black with woodgrain on them. They are not completey flat, seem to be molded plastic. What did these come out of?? I need armrests for those door panels if anybody has some. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Travis Attached Images __________________ 71 Chevy Long Bed (gettin' bagged) 84 GMC K1500 (Sold) 85 Monte Carlo SS white w/gray int. (being a dumba** and totaled it ) 85 Monte Carlo SS clone T-top (Sold) 72 Chevelle-tubbed 64 Buick Sportwagon

01-04-2005, 01:16 AM	#2
Rod Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Eastern - Manitoba Canada, Winnipeg Posts: 4,369	Looks like C10 to me. __________________ Senior active founding member. 70 3/4 ton GMC Suburban 4x4 250/4 spd. 71 1/2 ton Suburban Chevy 4x4, 350/350 72 Chev 1 ton tow truck 402BB w/Holmes 440 wrecker on propane 2005 FLSTSCI Harley Springer 85 FXSB Harley Lowrider 72 Triumph 650 Bonneville 5spd "Poor people don't have hobbies" Quote from wife.

01-04-2005, 01:28 AM	#3
Bob Moore Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tacoma WA Posts: 1,365	Door panels The door panels sound like 72's. They can be made to fit but require different door remotes and window regulators due to increased depth of the panels. __________________ 67 C-20 LWB, tilt, speed alert, vac, 454, T400 67 C-10 SWB, factory air with more to follow

01-04-2005, 01:35 AM	#5
wyoman64 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Northern Black Hills, SD Posts: 38	http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/Chevyear.html __________________ 1969 Chevy K20 Fleetside 1979 Chevy K10 "ROBAHOR" (Rusted Out Beyond All Hope Of Repair)

01-04-2005, 01:40 AM	#6
wannabeburbowner Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New Philadelphia, Ohio Posts: 253	Yes, I do think that that sticker is in the glove box. I will look tommorrow and post on here what I find. Bob, are you saying that 72's have a different door on the inside?? __________________ 71 Chevy Long Bed (gettin' bagged) 84 GMC K1500 (Sold) 85 Monte Carlo SS white w/gray int. (being a dumba** and totaled it ) 85 Monte Carlo SS clone T-top (Sold) 72 Chevelle-tubbed 64 Buick Sportwagon

01-04-2005, 01:59 AM	#7
Robert1970C20rstbukt Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Beeville, Texas Posts: 1,943	Judging by the re-enforcement screw under the vent window on the door I'd say you have a '72 there. It also has the plastic fasteners for the door panels too. __________________ RJD 1984 Chevrolet C30 welding truck 454/SM465 1977 GMC C15 pickup 350/TH350 1970 Chevrolet C20 pickup 350/TH400 1970 Chevrolet K20 Suburban 454/TH350 1969 GMC 8500 478M V6/5 spd winch truck

01-04-2005, 02:06 AM	#8
wannabeburbowner Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New Philadelphia, Ohio Posts: 253	Title says 71, door could have been switched though. __________________ 71 Chevy Long Bed (gettin' bagged) 84 GMC K1500 (Sold) 85 Monte Carlo SS white w/gray int. (being a dumba** and totaled it ) 85 Monte Carlo SS clone T-top (Sold) 72 Chevelle-tubbed 64 Buick Sportwagon

01-04-2005, 02:23 AM	#9
silvertonguedevil Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Seaside, Oregon Posts: 1,789	Does your rear-view mirror attach to the windshield or does it have an arm that attaches to the inside of the roof? __________________ -Greg My Chevy trucks, past and present: 1962 C10 SB Fleetside 1964 C10 LB Fleetside BBW 1966 C10 SB Fleetside 1966 C10 SB Fleetside BBW 1968 C10 SB Fleetside 1971 C10 LB Fleetside 1971 C10 SB Fleetside 1972 C10 SB Fleetside Cheyenne 1972 C10 SB Fleetside Cheyenne Super 1972 C10 LB Fleetside Cheyenne Super 1974 C20 Cheyenne 1979 K5 Blazer Cheyenne 1982 K10 SB Fleetside Custom Deluxe 1982 K10 SB Fleetside Scottsdale 1986 C10 SB Fleetside Silverado 2008 Silverado 1500 4x4

01-04-2005, 03:00 AM	#10
wannabeburbowner Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New Philadelphia, Ohio Posts: 253	It has an arm, but I am thinking that it might be home made. Can you get a picture of the factory rearview mirror with that arm and post it on here?? __________________ 71 Chevy Long Bed (gettin' bagged) 84 GMC K1500 (Sold) 85 Monte Carlo SS white w/gray int. (being a dumba** and totaled it ) 85 Monte Carlo SS clone T-top (Sold) 72 Chevelle-tubbed 64 Buick Sportwagon

01-04-2005, 08:55 AM	#11
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,863	There would be a raised sort of badge/shield shaped mount formed into the header panel if a`71.Doors are`72,swapped if `71 truck.Arm rest pads available from vendors in factory colors.To find axle ratio,if no tab in diff cover bolt,mark tire and ground(like meter-maid)jack-up rear,mark yoke and diff housing,count how many times the wheel turns for the yoke to turn once.About 3 3/4=3.73,4+=4.10/11...Have fun with your truck. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

01-04-2005, 09:46 AM	#12
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	My guess is that you have a Chevy! But seriously...can't you tell a C10 from a C20/30 by the hubs?? Correct me if I am wrong but a C10 has 5 or 6 lugs and C20/30 have 8 lugs?? Looks like a C10 __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications!

01-04-2005, 09:11 PM	#13
wannabeburbowner Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New Philadelphia, Ohio Posts: 253	Here are the numbers that I found in the glove box. I can't really figure them out. It doesn't match the set-up that the example is. V.I.N. CCE1421 105677 SE-FT0601866 Model # CE10934 So what does this tell me?? What is SE?? Thanks, Travis __________________ 71 Chevy Long Bed (gettin' bagged) 84 GMC K1500 (Sold) 85 Monte Carlo SS white w/gray int. (being a dumba** and totaled it ) 85 Monte Carlo SS clone T-top (Sold) 72 Chevelle-tubbed 64 Buick Sportwagon

01-04-2005, 09:42 PM	#14
71Shortbed Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Lilburn, GA Posts: 209	Post a picture of the glovebox sticker if you can.....

01-04-2005, 09:45 PM	#15
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	You need to look at the VIN in the door jamb...you may have been given the wront title. You said the title calls it a 72...but that VIN...it says '72.

01-05-2005, 09:12 PM	#16
roger0080 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Carver County, Minnesota, USA Posts: 626	yes, please post a pic of the glove box sticker. __________________ 72 Chev C-10 90% restored (former AZ truck) ... 71 Chev K-20 Cheyenne my vacation crusier... 72 Chev C-10 Now retired and striped after many faithful miles... 72 GMC 1500 Retired to the junk yard after bought new in '71...



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01-05-2005, 10:11 PM	#17
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,863	Make sure the paint on the inside of the glovebox door matches paint elsewhere.Especially the cab. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

01-06-2005, 12:35 AM	#19
wannabeburbowner Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New Philadelphia, Ohio Posts: 253	So what emblems should be on my truck (if any) and where?? Would the emblems be the same for 71 and 72?? As of right now everything is primered gray, i will try to scrape off some primer to see the paint. Is there any way to strip the primer and not the paint?? I will try to take some pictures of the glove box door and the door jam. Is that where the VIN is located on these trucks...under the door latch?? Won't stop raining over here, won't be able to get the truck out of the yard untill everything freezes. __________________ 71 Chevy Long Bed (gettin' bagged) 84 GMC K1500 (Sold) 85 Monte Carlo SS white w/gray int. (being a dumba** and totaled it ) 85 Monte Carlo SS clone T-top (Sold) 72 Chevelle-tubbed 64 Buick Sportwagon

01-06-2005, 03:25 AM	#20
longhorn71 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: CANADA Posts: 1,681	if the truck has been repanited.look behind the gas tank in the cab.It is a place in these trucks that is usally not faded or repanited.this is the best place to get an idea of what the oringnial color looked like.

01-06-2005, 04:56 PM	#21
wannabeburbowner Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New Philadelphia, Ohio Posts: 253	VIN tag I looked at the VIN tag today. Title= CS1411615200 Tag= CS1411615000 So it still isn't a match is it?? I attached some pictures, but I can't shrink the vin tag down enough and still be able to read it. You guys can play with it if you want. How do you like the first pic?? That's my uncle's back yard, the truck is sitting to the far right. I had to walk through about 5" of water to take these pics. The sacrifices we make for our and vehicles. Attached Images __________________ 71 Chevy Long Bed (gettin' bagged) 84 GMC K1500 (Sold) 85 Monte Carlo SS white w/gray int. (being a dumba** and totaled it ) 85 Monte Carlo SS clone T-top (Sold) 72 Chevelle-tubbed 64 Buick Sportwagon Last edited by wannabeburbowner; 01-06-2005 at 05:00 PM.

01-07-2005, 12:10 AM	#22
roger0080 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Carver County, Minnesota, USA Posts: 626	If you email me the picture of the glovebox option sheet I will try to crop/make bigger and post it back here for you. Send it to roger0080@netscape.net -Roger __________________ 72 Chev C-10 90% restored (former AZ truck) ... 71 Chev K-20 Cheyenne my vacation crusier... 72 Chev C-10 Now retired and striped after many faithful miles... 72 GMC 1500 Retired to the junk yard after bought new in '71...

01-07-2005, 12:18 AM	#23
mblackburnjr collector of vintage rust Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: southern ohio Posts: 421	By looking at the numbers you are giving ....15200,and....15000. I would say someone at one time messed up when changing the title,if not originally.....Arent the last few #'s just the build #'s...As in 15200th truck built. The rest match right?

01-07-2005, 01:28 AM	#24
wannabeburbowner Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New Philadelphia, Ohio Posts: 253	Yeah, I think that it is just the production number. So it is off by 200. Everything else matches on the VIN. I am guessing that somebody swapped cabs, and then put the VIN from the original cab in this one. I would hate to ask at the Title office to have them change it to 15200. They might not do it at all, then I would be screwed. Should I just keep my mouth shut and take the chance?? I didn't get the title changed over yet. __________________ 71 Chevy Long Bed (gettin' bagged) 84 GMC K1500 (Sold) 85 Monte Carlo SS white w/gray int. (being a dumba** and totaled it ) 85 Monte Carlo SS clone T-top (Sold) 72 Chevelle-tubbed 64 Buick Sportwagon

01-07-2005, 05:53 AM	#25
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	does it have an out of state title? If so, you will have to jump through some hoops.

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