Don't Try this with your Table Saw!!!

[gcburdic]

This is awesome invention.....check it out!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=E3mzhvMgrLE&NR=1

[Sillyoldman]

Unnessesary if people would become familiar with the equipment after reading the user manual. Pretty remarkable stuff though.

[Sub-versive]

I know you are thinking about getting one for your next party, huh?



Expensive party favor.


Just don't try to cut wet/damp wood either.

[ERASER5]

The newest Saw Stop uses an electric brake. The saw blade is the rotor and the brake slam stops the saw. The brake lets go, and you can continue to work. Less carnage that way.

Why would you care if the blade is destroyed when your hand was saved? Because the Saw Stop is triggered by electric conduction. Wet wood will set it off. Salt treated wood will set it off. Metal will set it off. So, loss of blades and time are not much when limbs are saved, but very annoying when it was the material you were trying to saw.

Excellent product. And the maker? Cojones the size of Texas!

[Leviticus]

Pretty cool, but like said above I think most of the horror stories you hear of people cutting off fingers and hands etc are the classic "Look honey I bought a new skil saw and am going to build that fence you wanted!"

I have been running construction power tools for over 15 years and to this day I have never cut myself with a table saw, worm drive skil saw, beam saw, sawzall, compound miter saw etc. But when I was young I had the proper handling and safety beat into me by my bosses that got tired of workman's comp claims

But for the inexperienced general public, that looks like a great product.

[cdowns]

i've been using a table saw 45years , never got cut. never needed to slice hotdogs with it either but could if the need arises

[rambler]

we had a shop teacher in high school without his thumb and part of his index finger.

that was enough for me to listen about shop safety....

[PanelDeland]

You guys do know that "You cain't fix stupid" don't you.
I mean if they have to put a warning sign on a chainsaw that says"Do not stop blade with hand or genitalia" there ain't much that's common about common sense.

[LONGHAIR]

Those have been around for several years, but I guess that unless you are in the trade you wouldn't have heard of them.
We had one in one of the shops I used to work in. The full sized cabinet saw is really nice. Just as good as any Powermatic or comparible unit.
There is a by-pass for the brake to allow you to cut conductive materials. It takes a key and a very deliberate method to start it in that mode....and you have to do it every time you shut it off. It automatically defaults back to the safety mode.

There is a smaller "contractor" style model available now.

[special-K]

The best safety device made is the human brain.If you use that you`re good to go.Never take for granted the task at hand nor the potential for disaster.

Push sticks solve this problem.

[Hoods69BadBowTie]

That's pretty cool not something I would buy but still neat!

[Leviticus]

Ah the irony.....

So I was doing some work today and had a cutoff wheel on my grinder and the blade guard off. Well I went and cut my finger, not bad but I did .

But I still haven't cut myself with the saws I listed above

Thought it was some type of karmic payback for typing what I did

[gcburdic]

....Glad you didn't hurt yourself, but unfortunately no matter how long you have been doing this, sometimes it just happens....

[ERASER5]

The saw stop is more for a business owner. Helps with liability and all. It would be nice if everyone was careful, but that is not the world we live in.

[LEEVON]

gee my Dad could've used that a few years ago when he decided his finger was too long

[FRENCHBLUE72]

We could use a few of those where I work...

[Ghostwhite]

+1 on school shop safety drilling

[pritch]

Originally Posted by Leviticus

Ah the irony.....

So I was doing some work today and had a cutoff wheel on my grinder and the blade guard off. Well I went and cut my finger, not bad but I did .

But I still haven't cut myself with the saws I listed above

Thought it was some type of karmic payback for typing what I did

Angle grinders are the worst. Our safety guy has a full-on comeapart when he catches us using one with the guard off. I'm currenty in the middle of an OSHA 30 hour class (5 hours each thursday afternoon for 6 weeks. Just shoot me in the head.). But our instructor did show quite a few gory tablesaw video's as well as other power tools.

When we first went to jr. high shop class, there was a chunk of 2x6 or something lodged in the ceiling of the shop. The teacher swore up and down that the table saw threw it up there.Made a believer outta me, anyway.
My table saw would scare you to death. It does me. It was my dad's, about a 1950 craftsman. Still works like a champ, but guards? We don't need no stinkin' guards. I've been in the trades for over 30 years now, and the only thing that I've let get away and beat me up was a half-inch drill with a big-like 1.5" or so paddle bit. Now, I know a craftsman don't blame his tools, but this drill had the trigger lock on the left side of the handle-this was fairly common on drill motors at the time-and, being left-handed, I hadn't noticed that the palm of my hand had engaged the trigger lock. It happened about every time, actually, but it's only a problem when the bit binds up and twists the drill out of your hand then winds the cord around your hand so you can't let go and it's having a run away until it winds up enough cord and pulls it out of the plug. Trust me on this one-it sucked. Hurt like heck, and then after it was all over I looked up and saw the rest of the crew laughing their a$$es off. Note to self-pay attention, stupid!!!!

[LONGHAIR]

This is exactly why a lot of injuries happen to left handers (I'm one too)
Tools are/were generally designed/intended around right handed users. Some are as simple as the placement of the "lock-on" feature, others are more in the way of switch placement, but the biggest culprit is something that is so taken for granted by everyone that it is ignored.
Quite simply, it is the "twist" direction of drill bits. Just using a drill left handed, whether the lock is engauged or not, can get it ripped out of your hand. If the bit "catches", the drill tries to rotate out of your hand. With a righty, it is pushed harder into their hand.

It has long been thought that lefties were just more "clumsy/accident prone", it's just not true. "Things" are intended for right handed users, which makes them hazardous by design for the rest of us.

BTW, we seem to be shrinking. They used to estimate that about 30% of the population was left handed, now it is below 8%?

[pritch]

Originally Posted by LONGHAIR

It has long been thought that lefties were just more "clumsy/accident prone", it's just not true. "Things" are intended for right handed users, which makes them hazardous by design for the rest of us.

BTW, we seem to be shrinking. They used to estimate that about 30% of the population was left handed, now it is below 8%?

I've heard that lefties run around 15% in children, and 1% in senior citizens. Living in a right-handed world is deadly for us. We are openly mocked and discriminated against. The only tool I know of that would seem lefty-friendly is a worm-drive skil saw. But when you look closer, they are designed the way they are to keep saw dust and chips out of the eyes of righties.

[Leviticus]

You know its funny, I am a righty but I shoot rifles and bows lefty, must be a dominant eye issue. So lucky me, my AR throws shells right across my face

[ERASER5]

Originally Posted by LONGHAIR

This is exactly why a lot of injuries happen to left handers (I'm one too)
Tools are/were generally designed/intended around right handed users. Some are as simple as the placement of the "lock-on" feature, others are more in the way of switch placement, but the biggest culprit is something that is so taken for granted by everyone that it is ignored.
Quite simply, it is the "twist" direction of drill bits. Just using a drill left handed, whether the lock is engauged or not, can get it ripped out of your hand. If the bit "catches", the drill tries to rotate out of your hand. With a righty, it is pushed harder into their hand.

It has long been thought that lefties were just more "clumsy/accident prone", it's just not true. "Things" are intended for right handed users, which makes them hazardous by design for the rest of us.

BTW, we seem to be shrinking. They used to estimate that about 30% of the population was left handed, now it is below 8%?

That is why I taught myself to do many jobs right handed. Some, I just cannot do "rightey" like use a hammer, but I try. Sometimes it is safer, like a hand drill. Sometimes just easier, like putting on wire nuts. The right hand turns them naturally to the right. A little ergonomic studying can do some good.

[LONGHAIR]

I do quite a few things right handed because of the ergonomics of the task. Putting a nut onto a bolt, tightening just about everything, typing the 10 keys, etc. are all good examples. Probably the biggest one is "mousing" a computer.I specifically learned to do it that way because of the need to use other's computers. I didn't want to have to deal with moving the mouse for my use, then back after I was done.
It is said that lefties are more likely to be ambidextrous to some degree.

[63sbssbbw]

I too, am a lefty
My skill saw is about the only tool i have to use right-handed,it just doesn't work very well using it left-handed
I have heard of left-handed skill saws,but have never seen one,also heard they were quite expensive.
And, yeah those lock-on buttons drive me nuts! lol
T

[cdowns]

i'm left handed// i can type with either index finger but use a left mouse, its funny to see people trying to use my computer // i had a lefthanded skill saw for many years about cried when it was no longer fixable