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Old 11-14-2016, 05:34 PM   #1
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The Government Mule - 62 c20 with service bed

Was searching craigslist a few weeks back and came across an ad that just said "service truck". No picture but I clicked on it anyway and found out it was a 62 c20 service truck. I was definitely interested. Made arrangements to go check it out that weekend. Took a two hour drive,ending up on a dirt road in the middle of the woods. My kinda place. Old fella had bought it to use but ended up getting a newer model truck with a service bed instead. Turns out it was a retired water water department truck from a local municipality. Looks like it had been rode pretty hard and put up wet, but i had to have it. I gave him a deposit and came back the next week to haul it home.

It's got a running 235 with a 4 speed, plenty of rust, and tons of character. Right now I'm just working on a plan of attack. I want to lower it significantly so weighing my options on how to do that in the most economical, yet effective way. My brother has some TJ springs so I think I will give them a try along with making a set of lowering blocks for the rear. Up front I have cranked down the torsion bars til it's siting on the bumps and I know I want to go lower. Will keep the 235, but would like to upgrade to a T5 trans to make it a little more highway friendly.


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Looking forward to the new build! And love me some 6 cylinders. You gonna do a twin carb setup with fenton headers?
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Looking forward to the new build! And love me some 6 cylinders. You gonna do a twin carb setup with fenton headers?

Thanks TJ! Twin carbs and Fenton headers would be sweet!
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Sounds like it's gonna be an awesome build, I'm in. If I was you I wouldn't use tj springs, they can't carry much load and with the service bed it could put you close or on the bump stops.
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Sounds like it's gonna be an awesome build, I'm in. If I was you I wouldn't use tj springs, they can't carry much load and with the service bed it could put you close or on the bump stops.
I've heard that about the TJ springs. I was thinking maybe some helper bags in the rear...but then if I go with helper bags, why not just bag it in the first place? We will see!
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Finally got my picture issues sorted out. Here's some from when I picked the truck up.
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Old 11-24-2016, 10:23 AM   #7
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A service bed? Jealous...cool truck.
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Old 11-24-2016, 12:40 PM   #8
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A service bed? Jealous...cool truck.
Thanks RD!

I looked up the VIN the other day just to see what I could find out about the truck.
Most of the info was standard, 1962 2wd 3/4 ton 127" wheelbase, born in Baltimore. The 5th digit was a 3 and that threw me for a few minutes, but I found out that meant it was a cab and chassis truck.
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There is a truck very similar to this down the road from me. I love the way these trucks look even as dedicated workers. Do you have any plans to restore it or are you just upgradio suspension and driveline some?
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There is a truck very similar to this down the road from me. I love the way these trucks look even as dedicated workers. Do you have any plans to restore it or are you just upgradio suspension and driveline some?
No plans to full on restore the truck. I will try and patch up the bad places though. Other than that, I just want to get it down low and make a reliable driver that's still a functional worker. The more I think about it, the more I want to replace the 235 with a 292.
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Hell that's about what I'm doing with mine, replace the bad and get it going. Hopefully there's not to much rust in that cab. Also I've debated fixing the 292 that came in mine, but I've had a replacement engine waiting for a project so I'm kinda torn. Would defiantly be cool with a beefed up inline though.

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Hell that's about what I'm doing with mine, replace the bad and get it going. Hopefully there's not to much rust in that cab. Also I've debated fixing the 292 that came in mine, but I've had a replacement engine waiting for a project so I'm kinda torn. Would defiantly be cool with a beefed up inline though.
Beef the 292. Did it, no regrets.
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If mine wasn't locked up, and I didn't already have an fi ls1 that I've been prepping lol. You looking for an engine jcramsey?

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If mine wasn't locked up, and I didn't already have an fi ls1 that I've been prepping lol. You looking for an engine jcramsey?
I am starting to look for an engine...you ever get near South Carolina?
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I am starting to look for an engine...you ever get near South Carolina?
Not really, but we are in practically neighboring states. Also here's that truck I was talking about... I wouldn't mind trying to get my hands on it.



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Wow...that's a good looking truck. That would definitely be worth checking into!
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Since we are going to NC for Christmas, I put an ad on the Craigslist city closest to my parents place looking for a 292 and to my surprise I got a couple emails right away. One reply was actually a board member in Knoxville. He was about 2 1/2 hours away from them so a little farther than I wanted to go. Talked to another guy in Asheville which is only a half hour away and he had a motor sitting in his shop for a pretty reasonable price. Need to schedule a day to meet him and pick it up while we are at my folks. I'm pumped to be getting a big six!
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Sweet, so I assume you are going to be using an automatic transmission with it? since a 292 would require mechanical clutch linkage.
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Hey hey! Another Big 6 brother! I smell turbo. lol
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Definitely lots of character. Like the "20" badging style for that year.
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Sweet, so I assume you are going to be using an automatic transmission with it? since a 292 would require mechanical clutch linkage.
Haven't got that all figured out yet. From my limited research I kinda thought the 4.3 v6 s10 T5 trans had provisions for a hydraulic clutch. In the end I'll probably do whatever is most economical for me. I'd prefer a manual trans, but I'm not opposed to an automatic.

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Hey hey! Another Big 6 brother! I smell turbo. lol
Yes sir, I wanted a big boy six for this guy. Would love to have a setup like yours TJ. So nice!

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Haven't got that all figured out yet. From my limited research I kinda thought the 4.3 v6 s10 T5 trans had provisions for a hydraulic clutch. In the end I'll probably do whatever is most economical for me. I'd prefer a manual trans, but I'm not opposed to an automatic.
No t5 has provisions for a hydraulic clutch, it all depends on the Bellhousing on which the slave cylinder mounts, unfortunately you can't re-use your 235 Bellhousing with the 292 block since they have different bolt patterns. There is a few options. 1: find a 60-62 Bellhousing with a v8/230/250/292 bolt pattern since it has a slave cylinder for a hydraulic clutch. 2: find a nv3500 5spd trans since they have a integrated Bellhousing with a slave cylinder for a hydraulic clutch. 3: switch to an automatic transmission.
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Picked up my Christmas present this morning. Drove to Asheville with my dad and came home with a 292. Looks to be in decent shape....I was pleasantly surprised. Looking forward to getting it back home and checking it out better.
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Couple of pics because nobody's ever seen a greasy engine sitting on a tire before.
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