Project Charity Case

[brn agn]

This project started in March 2009. I manage a ministry at my local church called “The Service Station”. The purpose of the ministry is to provide free car repairs and affordable vehicles to people in need. There were a couple of occasions recently when someone wanted to donate a vehicle, but we were unable to move the vehicle legally.

I had all 4 of my wisdom teeth removed in March and was laid up at home for a couple of days. I started thinking about the situation with the car ministry. I decided to buy a full size truck to use as a 3rd vehicle for my wife and I. It would also be used for the car ministry to move cars as needed. I looked for a “cheap” 1988+ Chevy pickup for sale on Craigslist. Everything I found either had a lot of miles or was $3500+. I then thought, “if I am going to buy a full size truck, why not buy one with some style?”. So, I found www.67-72chevytrucks.com. I went straight to the classifieds forum and one of the first trucks I looked at was a 69 Chevy C10 SWB. It looked all original and was priced right. To my surprise, it was about 130 miles away. I contacted the seller (VA72C10) and he gave me the details on the truck.

A few days later, my wife and I made the drive to Richmond, VA to look at the truck. The truck had some rust issues, but I really liked it. I decided that I should wait a few days before I made a decision. We drove back to North Carolina. Over the next week, I looked at a couple of local trucks in my price range, but they had sloppy paint jobs and it looked like the owners were covering up more serious problems.

I liked the truck in Richmond, but was arguing with myself if I wanted to buy a truck that needed work, or hold out for a nicer one and pay more. I explained this to VA72C10 and he came back with an offer I couldn’t refuse. I sent him a deposit check a few days later.

One of my friends (and a technician that helps with the car ministry) used to live in Richmond, VA and still had a 1968 Ford at his parent’s house there. We worked out a deal that we would borrow a truck and split the cost of gas and trailer rental to pick up his truck as well as my new purchase. On March 30th, we made the trip to Richmond to bring both trucks home (separate trips). Aside from running in to rush hour traffic in Richmond, the trip went well.

The truck was not running well, so after I got it home, my first priority was to get it running right. I replaced the battery, rebuilt the Rochester 2GV multiple times, before figuring out that it was missing the accelerator pump spring. I also cleaned the fuel filter, replaced the fuel line from the pump to the carb and did a tune up. Those changes enabled it to start consistently and run OK.

The owner before VA72C10 was going to tub the truck and had started removing the studs on the rear end (I haven’t figured that one out). There were only 2 studs in place on the passenger side rear wheel. I installed the missing studs and replaced a leaking wheel cylinder. Now the truck was driving as well. I drove the truck around a couple of days. It was not perfect, but I was really starting to see the potential in the truck.

Here are the details on the truck:

1969 C10 SWB-307, Powerglide, 3.73 non posi, power steering, drum brakes. It has been repainted one time. The only modification I found was that the alternator was moved to a top mount (the wiring harness was spliced to make it longer).

Here are a couple of pictures from when VA72C10 was selling the truck:





Here is a picture of the ride home:

[brn agn]

When I bought the truck, I knew it had some rust in the firewall, the cowl area and the floor boards. A PO had patched the worst areas using fiberglass, galvanized steel and sheet metal screws. My next priority was to fix the rust in the cab, so I could drive the truck without the nuisance of having wet feet.

During this time, I decided to set a few goals:

-Keep as much of the original sheet metal as possible.
-Perform the repairs "the right way...not the right now way".
-Make the truck safe in terms of suspension, brakes, lights, etc...
-Spend money where it is important, but do not let the truck turn into a show truck. It still must be used as a truck.

As you look at the pictures, please keep in mind that I am not an expert when it comes to body work. If you have any suggestions, I am open to hear them.

Here are pics of the repairs:

Driver's side kick panel:


Rust in the cowl area:


Removing the kick panel:


Hart_Rod sold me some patch panels from a cab he was parting out. Here is the "new" patch panel for the kick panel:


Panel tacked into place:


Welded in and etching primer is covering the bare metal:

[brn agn]

This doesn't look too bad:


...until the fiberglass repair is stripped away:


Cleaning everything up:


Patch panel welded in place:


Primer and Seam Sealer added:

[brn agn]

The rain gutter obviously had seen better days:




I decided to cut the lip off and weld a piece in the void. I know this is not original, but I felt like it was the best solution for this particular truck:


Seam sealer and primer added:


The wiper motor mount has had a rough life. Someone tried to patch it with what looks like an arc welder and a mount cut out of another truck:




Here is the mess cut out of the truck:

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Square hole:


Another patch panel courtesy of Hart_Rod:


I tack welded this piece in place from the top and the bottom, which is the reason there are a lot of spaces between the welds on top:


This picture does not show much detail, but I have added primer, seam sealer and paint:


It was time to tackle the area with the worst damage, which was on the passenger side. Introducing the famous Corvette option. Check out that blob of fiberglass to the right of the blower motor:


I don't like where this is going:


Oh my! What did I get myself in to?


Removing the firewall lip:

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Patch panel welded in to place and the welds are ground down:


See that black vertical line?


More rust:


Bye, bye rust:


Picture of the A-pillar:


Repairing the A-pillar:


I decided to fix this while I was in the neighborhood:


New cab support:


Repairing the lower portion of the A-pillar:

[Palf70Step]

Very nice work. The truck looks great!

[Hart_Rod]

Great job on the repairs! It does look like that cab I parted went to good use, . The truck came out nice. If you need any more repair panels let me know, I still have some parts of that truck left, . Keep us updated.

[oldblue1968chevy]

GREAT JOB!!!!! MAN THAT LOOKS GOOD! Shoulda just boughta new cab though lol.

[brn agn]

Originally Posted by oldblue1968chevy

GREAT JOB!!!!! MAN THAT LOOKS GOOD! Shoulda just boughta new cab though lol.

You are absolutely correct! However, now that the worst part of the cab is repaired, I am glad I still have the original cab on the truck. The rest of the truck is relatively original, and I would like to keep it that way.

[brn agn]

I got the bumpers on today. It is starting to look like a truck again...I'm still not sure about the rake. Any opinions?

[Rokcrln]

I think you did the right thing by patching it up the way you did, nice work by the way. Now the truck will keep your feet dry and still has a great stock warn look to it, the new cab would not have done that!

Kevin
LFD Inc.

[Palf70Step]

I personally like the rake. You have done a really great job on the truck.

[PHAT TONY]

I looked at this trucks ad many times; seeing the hidden issues now.... I think the rake is great, and if you're gonna use it as a truck the keester may drop a bit with a load in the box-keep it!

[VA72C10]

GREAT job man! I am glad you kept it stock. That was my original plan. I really like the truck and it's patina and it's even better since the CLR. Looks like you fixed some of the trim as well. Great work also on pulling out the fender.

[VA72C10]

I'm glad you got the truck as it will be used for a good purpose and it's obvious you have the skills to fix it. I don't and honestly didn't realize the rust was as bad as it turned out being. Sorry you had the extra work and hidden problems. But the truck's value is now a lot more that the rust is fixed. Did you try the CLR on the bed? Interested how that came out since it was in such good shape.

[brn agn]

Originally Posted by VA72C10

I'm glad you got the truck as it will be used for a good purpose and it's obvious you have the skills to fix it. I don't and honestly didn't realize the rust was as bad as it turned out being. Sorry you had the extra work and hidden problems. But the truck's value is now a lot more that the rust is fixed. Did you try the CLR on the bed? Interested how that came out since it was in such good shape.

I used the CLR on the bedsides, but not in the bed. I am thinking about having the bed floor sand blasted and painted or coated...I have not decided yet.

I did try buffing the paint in one place with a Porter Cable 7424 and the paint shined up. My plan is to work on it a little at a time and try to bring the shine back.

The rust issues were not hidden. I had full knowledge of the rust that was hiding under the dash. In fact, I have pictures from when I first looked at the truck that show how bad it was. I know I have the protect-o-plate and the original owner's name, but do you know the history of the truck in between the original owner and yourself? Whoever it was really liked to lay fiberglass...and he smoked a pipe.

[VA72C10]

Originally Posted by brn agn

I used the CLR on the bedsides, but not in the bed. I am thinking about having the bed floor sand blasted and painted or coated...I have not decided yet.

I did try buffing the paint in one place with a Porter Cable 7424 and the paint shined up. My plan is to work on it a little at a time and try to bring the shine back.

The rust issues were not hidden. I had full knowledge of the rust that was hiding under the dash. In fact, I have pictures from when I first looked at the truck that show how bad it was. I know I have the protect-o-plate and the original owner's name, but do you know the history of the truck in between the original owner and yourself? Whoever it was really liked to lay fiberglass...and he smoked a pipe.

I'm not sure but the guy I bought it from was the one planning on tubbing it. He told me he had bought it from the original owner. I didn't ever research it, but his story was the gentleman that had it used it to go back and forth to the grocery store and had it under a carport. Probably why it got the pine needles/leaves in the cowl and wiring gutter that created the rust issue. The pipe is supposedly the original owner's

[Becker67]

Brn agn love the truck. I think it looks perfect the way it is. Heres a pic of mine. it has a 4/6 drop from ece. Minus the the spindles. I made my own dropped a arms. It has 275/60/15 on the back and 255/60/15 on the front.

[bigblazerboy]

beautiful truck and thats some good rust repair you did man. keep up the good work.

[brn agn]

I was able to get a few things accomplished yesterday on the truck. The inside of the gas tank was rusted badly. A previous owner had installed a clear fuel filter prior to the carb and I was constantly cleaning the sediment out of it. So, I found a used gas tank locally. It too had rust in it, but it was not out of control like the stock tank. I used a product from KBS Coatings to clean and seal the second tank. Here is a picture of what the coating looks like when it is cured:



It seems like a decent product. So, yesterday I removed the original tank:



The 3 digit number on the passenger side of the cab caught my eye. I knew I had seen "846" before. That is when I realized that it is also written on the hood:



I assume that this was a sequence number used at the factory?

I installed the new/used tank and took the opportunity to blow out all of the fuel lines. I am pretty certain there was blockage in the line between the sending unit and rubber hose that connects to the fuel line inside the frame.

The fuel gauge has never worked, and I tracked it down to a bad sending unit. The tank that I bought had a working sending unit, so installed it as well. Now, all of the gauges are working. Most of you probably realize that there were two different size fuel lines available in these trucks: 3/8" and 5/16". Since this truck has a 2 barrel carb, it has the smaller 5/16" line. The sending unit I was using had the 3/8" line. I purchased a brass adapter fitting from my local Napa in order to connect the larger sending unit to the smaller lines in the truck. The other option would have been to change my fuel lines over to 3/8", but I was not ready to do that. Here is a shot of the "new" gas tank installed:



The next step is to install the sound deadener and rubber mat.

[jlaird]

You did a great job on the cab. I don't think I would have the ambition to repair that thing. Nice work.

[Larry S]

Awesome job... Man I just thought my cab had alot of rust. Mine was a piece of cake compared to what you had.

[brn agn]

A few people have asked me about the specs on the wheels and tires I have on this truck. I am putting the specs in this thread not only as info for other people but also as documentation for myself, since I am slowly losing my memory.

I am running 17"x8" wheels on the front with 4" of backspacing. The tires are 255/50/17 Nitto NT-450's. I have not observed any rubbing.

On the rear I am running 17"x9.5" wheels with 6" of backspacing and 275/50/17 Nitto NT-450 tires. The rear axle is from a 72 model, so it is wider than the 1969 rear axle. There is only about 1" of clearance between the back of the tire and the fender well on both sides. If I had to do it over again, I would use rear wheels with 5" of backspacing as a cushion and to bring the wheels out closer to the bedside for a "nicer" look.

[aboyer]

Originally Posted by brn agn

A few people have asked me about the specs on the wheels and tires I have on this truck. I am putting the specs in this thread not only as info for other people but also as documentation for myself, since I am slowly losing my memory.

I am running 17"x8" wheels on the front with 4" of backspacing. The tires are 255/50/17 Nitto NT-450's. I have not observed any rubbing.

On the rear I am running 17"x9.5" wheels with 6" of backspacing and 275/50/17 Nitto NT-450 tires. The rear axle is from a 72 model, so it is wider than the 1969 rear axle. There is only about 1" of clearance between the back of the tire and the fender well on both sides. If I had to do it over again, I would use rear wheels with 5" of backspacing as a cushion and to bring the wheels out closer to the bedside for a "nicer" look.

Great build information, I read through your build, but didn't see what type of rims your are using. Are they Coy's?? Where did you get these through? Any information would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Adam